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Old 12-12-2008, 05:54 PM
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A New York Times opinion piece? Not a credible news source. Greenland was once rather temperate also. And that was when the only combustion exhaust fumes emanated from primitive campfires. Inconvenient fact! You may now return to your regularly scheduled delusions provided to you by ye olde media.



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THAT'S interesting!! Maybe you can enlighten all of us as to which news sources that *you * consider to be "credible".



After this election the NYT proved there not
WHAT?!?!?!?!
Can you put this in English?



THE NEW YORK TIMES IS NOT CREDIBLE.THEY PROVED THAT DURING THE ELECTION'S WITH THERE BIAS REPORTING.



understand
Maybe English isn't your strong suit.



maybe your just stupid
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Old 12-12-2008, 05:59 PM
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tommyr904 - 12/12/2008 8:54 PM

Hydro - 12/12/2008 8:51 PM

tommyr904 - 12/12/2008 8:36 PM

Hydro - 12/12/2008 8:03 PM

tommyr904 - 12/12/2008 7:49 PM

Hydro - 12/12/2008 7:39 PM

Halfswede - 12/12/2008 10:36 AM

A New York Times opinion piece? Not a credible news source. Greenland was once rather temperate also. And that was when the only combustion exhaust fumes emanated from primitive campfires. Inconvenient fact! You may now return to your regularly scheduled delusions provided to you by ye olde media.



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THAT'S interesting!! Maybe you can enlighten all of us as to which news sources that *you * consider to be "credible".



After this election the NYT proved there not
WHAT?!?!?!?!
Can you put this in English?



THE NEW YORK TIMES IS NOT CREDIBLE.THEY PROVED THAT DURING THE ELECTION'S WITH THERE BIAS REPORTING.



understand
Maybe English isn't your strong suit.



maybe your just stupid




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Old 12-12-2008, 06:00 PM
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I read about the "acidification" of the oceans months ago in Discover mag so the NYT is only printing old "news" here. And if at all possible, Discover is even more biased than the NYT. Why do I want it in the bilge? Well, isn't that where garbage / detritus belongs.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:14 PM
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Back-in-Black - 12/12/2008 9:00 PM

I read about the "acidification" of the oceans months ago in Discover mag so the NYT is only printing old "news" here. And if at all possible, Discover is even more biased than the NYT. Why do I want it in the bilge? Well, isn't that where garbage / detritus belongs.
Interesting. So is everything published in the NY Times or Discover magazine "garbage/ detritus", or just the things that YOU don't like?


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Hydro - 12/13/2008 8:39 AM

THAT'S interesting!! Maybe you can enlighten all of us as to which news sources that *you * consider to be "credible".

While you are on the subject of credible sources, would you consider this guy a credible source on global warming issues?!? :


I have a PhD in Meteorology from the University of Wisconsin-Madison, and have been involved in global warming research for close to twenty years. I have numerous peer reviewed scientific articles dealing with the measurement and interpretation of climate variability and climate change. I am also the U.S. Science Team Leader for the AMSR-E instrument* flying on NASA’s Aqua satellite.


Here is something he said that everyone needs to know about golbal warming, scientists, and the government:

"1. White House Involvement in the Reporting of Agency Employees’ Work

On the subject of the Administration’s involvement in policy-relevant scientific work performed by government employees in the EPA, NASA, and other agencies, I can provide some perspective based upon my previous experiences as a NASA employee. For example, during the Clinton-Gore Administration I was told what I could and could not say during congressional testimony. Since it was well known that I am skeptical of the view that mankind’s greenhouse gas emissions are mostly responsible for global warming, I assumed that this advice was to help protect Vice President Gore’s agenda on the subject.

This did not particularly bother me, though, since I knew that as an employee of an Executive Branch agency my ultimate boss resided in the White House. To the extent that my work had policy relevance, it seemed entirely appropriate to me that the privilege of working for NASA included a responsibility to abide by direction given by my superiors.

But I eventually tired of the restrictions I had to abide by as a government employee, and in the fall of 2001 I resigned from NASA and accepted my current position as a Principal Research Scientist at the University of Alabama in Huntsville. Despite my resignation from NASA, I continue to serve as Team Leader on the AMSR-E instrument flying on the NASA Aqua satellite, and maintain a good working relationship with other government researchers."




*The Advanced Microwave Scanning Radiometer - EOS (AMSR-E) is a one of the six sensors aboard Aqua. AMSR-E is passive microwave radiometer, modified from the Advanced Earth Observing Satellite-II (ADEOS-II) AMSR, designed and provided by JAXA (contractor: Mitsubishi Electric Corporation). It observes atmospheric, land, oceanic, and cryospheric parameters, including precipitation, sea surface temperatures, ice concentrations, snow water equivalent, surface wetness, wind speed, atmospheric cloud water, and water vapor.

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Old 12-12-2008, 06:26 PM
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No, just the things that haven't been scientifically PROVEN but are presented as fact by the FAR left rags. I don't see Discover touting that dark energy and dark matter are so real and proven that we need to implement cap and trade on them. Strangely, they treat dark matter / energy as an unproven scientific theory and report continuously on attempts by scientists to prove or disprove the theory... all as should be. Not so with global warming THEORY. They take it as fact. Why? Well maybe the fact that the science community is beholden to global warming study grants for their living and Discover is beholden to the science community for subscriptions might have a little something to do with it. Naw, never happen.
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Old 12-12-2008, 06:30 PM
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Hey libtard WaterOnTheBrain (aka Hydro), do you consider the United States Senate, committee on Environment and Public Works to be a credible source? From their website:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6

December 10, 2008

POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists.

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“I am a skeptic…Global warming has become a new religion.” - Nobel Prize Winner for Physics, Ivar Giaever.

“Since I am no longer affiliated with any organization nor receiving any funding, I can speak quite frankly….As a scientist I remain skeptical.” - Atmospheric Scientist Dr. Joanne Simpson, the first woman in the world to receive a PhD in meteorology and formerly of NASA who has authored more than 190 studies and has been called “among the most preeminent scientists of the last 100 years.”

Warming fears are the “worst scientific scandal in the history…When people come to know what the truth is, they will feel deceived by science and scientists.” - UN IPCC Japanese Scientist Dr. Kiminori Itoh, an award-winning PhD environmental physical chemist.

“The IPCC has actually become a closed circuit; it doesn’t listen to others. It doesn’t have open minds… I am really amazed that the Nobel Peace Prize has been given on scientifically incorrect conclusions by people who are not geologists,” - Indian geologist Dr. Arun D. Ahluwalia at Punjab University and a board member of the UN-supported International Year of the Planet.

“The models and forecasts of the UN IPCC "are incorrect because they only are based on mathematical models and presented results at scenarios that do not include, for example, solar activity.” - Victor Manuel Velasco Herrera, a researcher at the Institute of Geophysics of the National Autonomous University of Mexico

“It is a blatant lie put forth in the media that makes it seem there is only a fringe of scientists who don’t buy into anthropogenic global warming.” - U.S Government Atmospheric Scientist Stanley B. Goldenberg of the Hurricane Research Division of NOAA.

“Even doubling or tripling the amount of carbon dioxide will virtually have little impact, as water vapour and water condensed on particles as clouds dominate the worldwide scene and always will.” – . Geoffrey G. Duffy, a professor in the Department of Chemical and Materials Engineering of the University of Auckland, NZ.

“After reading [UN IPCC chairman] Pachauri's asinine comment [comparing skeptics to] Flat Earthers, it's hard to remain quiet.” - Climate statistician Dr. William M. Briggs, who specializes in the statistics of forecast evaluation, serves on the American Meteorological Society's Probability and Statistics Committee and is an Associate Editor of Monthly Weather Review.

“For how many years must the planet cool before we begin to understand that the planet is not warming? For how many years must cooling go on?" - Geologist Dr. David Gee the chairman of the science committee of the 2008 International Geological Congress who has authored 130 plus peer reviewed papers, and is currently at Uppsala University in Sweden.

“Gore prompted me to start delving into the science again and I quickly found myself solidly in the skeptic camp…Climate models can at best be useful for explaining climate changes after the fact.” - Meteorologist Hajo Smit of Holland, who reversed his belief in man-made warming to become a skeptic, is a former member of the Dutch UN IPCC committee.

“Many [scientists] are now searching for a way to back out quietly (from promoting warming fears), without having their professional careers ruined.” - Atmospheric physicist James A. Peden, formerly of the Space Research and Coordination Center in Pittsburgh.

“Creating an ideology pegged to carbon dioxide is a dangerous nonsense…The present alarm on climate change is an instrument of social control, a pretext for major businesses and political battle. It became an ideology, which is concerning.” - Environmental Scientist Professor Delgado Domingos of Portugal, the founder of the Numerical Weather Forecast group, has more than 150 published articles.

“CO2 emissions make absolutely no difference one way or another….Every scientist knows this, but it doesn’t pay to say so…Global warming, as a political vehicle, keeps Europeans in the driver’s seat and developing nations walking barefoot.” - Dr. Takeda Kunihiko, vice-chancellor of the Institute of Science and Technology Research at Chubu University in Japan.

“The [global warming] scaremongering has its justification in the fact that it is something that generates funds.” - Award-winning Paleontologist Dr. Eduardo Tonni, of the Committee for Scientific Research in Buenos Aires and head of the Paleontology Department at the University of La Plata. # #
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Old 12-12-2008, 07:16 PM
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Typical - this definitely belongs in the bilge. Anything that gets in the way of a Republicans "right" to keep his money or spend his money they way he wants to is "garbage / nonsense / irrelevant or not credible"
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LittleMrs - 12/13/2008 11:16 AM

Typical - this definitely belongs in the bilge. Anything that gets in the way of a Republicans "right" to keep his money or spend his money they way he wants to is "garbage / nonsense / irrelevant or not credible"
Yeah, but that's not what this is about. This is about Fat Albert Gore lining his pockets on the backs of the poor, those to be most affected by gov't regulation of a non-existent event: man-made global warming. IT DOESN'T EXIST!!!

Here's the thing about climate all of the libtard forget; the Earth's climate is driven by the ocean. Events in the ocean are what causes changes in the Earth's climate. Hell, we could go around the globe detonating nuclear bombs and altho the people won't happy about it, it would have no effect on the Earth's climate.


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LittleMrs - 12/12/2008 9:16 PM

Typical - this definitely belongs in the bilge. Anything that gets in the way of a Republicans "right" to keep his money or spend his money they way he wants to is "garbage / nonsense / irrelevant or not credible"
So are you saying that as Americans, we DON'T have the "right" to keep our money? Are you saying that every time some fruitcake like Al Gore decides to make a fortune by instigating mass hysteria, and every time some ambitious politican decides that he can accumulate more power and wealth for himself by stealing the wealth of the masses in the form of taxes, that we should all race each other to be the first in line to donate the proceeds of our hard work to their causes? Is that what you're saying? Sure sounds like it.

I'm so sorry that I was born and raised as an American. You know, that country that was birthed in rebellion? Rebellion you say? Rebellion against what? Could it have been rebellion against taxes? No! How un-American that would be! Can't be! Why you'd have to be a greedy Republican to actually want to keep some of the money you've earned! How selfish of us!

If you are so fond of paying taxes, might I suggest that you and your ilk all move to a socialist country? Oops, I forgot, all the socialist countries have either suffered total economic collapse or they have converted over to capitalism or both. Their citizens are the ones sneaking accross the boarders into OUR country! How silly of me!
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Old 12-13-2008, 04:42 AM
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Eyeball - 12/12/2008 9:30 PM

Hey libtard WaterOnTheBrain (aka Hydro), do you consider the United States Senate, committee on Environment and Public Works to be a credible source? From their website:

http://epw.senate.gov/public/index.c...0-274616db87e6

December 10, 2008

POZNAN, Poland - The UN global warming conference currently underway in Poland is about to face a serious challenge from over 650 dissenting scientists from around the globe who are criticizing the climate claims made by the UN IPCC and former Vice President Al Gore. Set for release this week, a newly updated U.S. Senate Minority Report features the dissenting voices of over 650 international scientists, many current and former UN IPCC scientists, who have now turned against the UN. The report has added about 250 scientists (and growing) in 2008 to the over 400 scientists who spoke out in 2007. The over 650 dissenting scientists are more than 12 times the number of UN scientists (52) who authored the media hyped IPCC 2007 Summary for Policymakers.

The U.S. Senate report is the latest evidence of the growing groundswell of scientific opposition rising to challenge the UN and Gore. Scientific meetings are now being dominated by a growing number of skeptical scientists.
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Maybe you should just stick to posting about your beliefs in Creationism on this site. I actually signed that "petition" once i realized that it was a red herring. ANYBODY could "sign" it!!! There are lawyers and businessmen on it you idiot!!!! Nice, reliable blog someone sent you.

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co 2 feeds plants ,plants give off oxygen so we all should hold are breath
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