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Old 12-11-2008, 11:17 AM
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This is really going to screw alot of people at bike week this year.

316.2085(3) Motorcycle or moped license tag improperly affixed
This is classified as a moving violation.
First Offense: the violator must pay $1,000 plus any other costs assessed for a moving violation. Second Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $2,500, plus any other applicable costs assessed for a moving violation. The person’s driver license must be revoked for a period of one year.
Third Offense: the violator will be charged with a third degree felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082, 775.083, and 775.084, a mandatory fine of $5,000, and the driver license must be revoked for a period of ten years


Details of what is legal for tag mounts:

Tag must be horizontal
Tag must be at rear most of the bike viewable from 100 feet away and can be seen from both sides of the bike
Tag must be lite with white light
There must be a reflector at the back of the bike (either on the tag or on the mount
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Old 12-11-2008, 11:27 AM
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First offense $1000 seems a little steep. Sounds like florida is in a money crunch and is looking for new revenue streams! Nation wide we are starting to see alot of these back door taxes.

Can one state revoke the drivers license from another state?
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Those fines are insane! [img]../images/emoticons/surprise.gif[/img]Just checked on Wi. and it's $200 first offense. What does a DUI run down there?
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I just checked the Florida law book to be sure 2008-2009 edition and 316.2085 (3)... Violation is Moving Violation in Duval Co. thats a $139 buck fine NOT 1000 dollars....
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Put your tag on a 30 foot pole behind the bike. The traffic jam created by 100+ 40 foot long motorcycles will gather attention. Parking will be a problem....unless you can pivot the 30 foot pole vertical when parking. Then you'll get parking tickets because they can't read the plate. Fix: (unless you can pivot the tag on the end of the 30' pole when parking....the traffic cops will have to use binoculars or a ladder to read the plate at 30' high) Disclaimer: Please watch out for powerlines.






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Old 12-11-2008, 12:36 PM
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$1,000 for FIRST offense and third offense is $5,000 and a FELONY? Somebody has lost their friggen mind.
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So what happens when I take my legally registered,tagged and inspected bike down from PA? MY tag is sideways and passes state inspection. The taillight has a built in reflector but no extras are back there and none on the tag.

It's legal here and I am not changing a thing to cross state lines. So far I have not received a ticket in any other state. I doubt out of staters will be made to pay. It's the same as if I drove my car from PA to Jersey. Jersey needs plates front and rear, PA only rear. They will not ticket for not having a front plate if your home state does not require one.

Those fines seem way extreme. I doubt they will be able to enforce for legal out of state bikes. Maybe for locally registered ones they will though.

I would be interested to see what they do.
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Shag - 12/11/2008 3:36 PM
... Somebody has lost their friggen mind.
Sounds like "cruel and unusual punishment" for something so minor. I do agree that the tags should be horizontal and properaly mounted for viewing but that penalty is asinine.
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Old 12-11-2008, 02:10 PM
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It is for 2 reasons, to give police another reason to stop a motorcycle to look for other violations and the biggest reason is for the crotch rocket idiots(especially in S. Florida) who run the highways at 120mph + with impunity because the police know they can't catch them. In fact, in South Florida, allegedly, police have been told NOT to chase these bikers because of the danger to the the biker himself and the public. The hope is that they can simply get the tag(because it is easier to read now) and get them that way.

As usual, the stupidity of the few causes a headache for the many.
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There were (are) 3 parts to the law. One is for "wheels leaving the ground". The second is for "improperly" displayed tag" The third is for speeding in excess of 50 MPH over the posted limit. Get this. They ALL have the SAME penalties. So, Florida says that sideways tag is the same as 105 in a 55?

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Effective October 1, 2008, HB 137 revises the traffic laws to create a few more penalties. This short bill was particularly focused on unsafe motorcycle activities, but it does include a provision for excessive speed. The new law also provides penalties for the first, second, third or subsequent violations. The Distribution Chart found on the FACC website will be updated to reflect the amounts for the first and second offenses in the Traffic section. The third and subsequent offense is classified as a third degree felony with a $5,000 fine and will appear in the Criminal Traffic section of the chart.

New Violations:
316.2085(2) Motorcycle or moped, wheels losing contact with ground
This is classified as a moving violation.
First Offense: the violator must pay $1,000 plus any other costs assessed for a moving violation. Second Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $2,500, plus any other applicable costs assessed for a moving violation. The person’s driver license must be revoked for a period of one year.
Third Offense: the violator will be charged with a third degree felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082, 775.083, and 775.084, a mandatory fine of $5,000, and the driver license must be revoked for a period of ten years.
(new entries for Distribution Chart—see below)

316.2085(3) Motorcycle or moped license tag improperly affixed
This is classified as a moving violation.
First Offense: the violator must pay $1,000 plus any other costs assessed for a moving violation. Second Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $2,500, plus any other applicable costs assessed for a moving violation. The person’s driver license must be revoked for a period of one year.
Third Offense: the violator will be charged with a third degree felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082, 775.083, and 775.084, a mandatory fine of $5,000, and the driver license must be revoked for a period of ten years.
(new entries for Distribution Chart—see below)

316.1926 (2) A person who exceeds the speed limit in excess of 50 mph or more in violation of ss.
316.183(2) (posted speeds), 316.187(state speed zones), or 316.189 (municipal and county speeds)
This is classified as a moving violation.
First Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $1,000 plus court costs.
Second Offense: the violator must pay a fine of $2,500 plus court costs and the driver license must be revoked for a period of one year.
Third Offense: the violator will be charged with a third degree felony, punishable as provided in ss. 775.082, 775.083, and 775.084, a mandatory fine of $5,000, and the driver license must be revoked for a period of ten years.
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gashogg - 12/11/2008 1:17 PM This is really going to screw alot of people at bike week this year.
Sounds like the stage is set for a little "entrapment" [img]../images/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] [img]../images/emoticons/frown.gif[/img] Think the visiting bikers are going to up on the latest laws?

*News travels fast[img]../images/emoticons/wink.gif[/img] , hope everyone gets the word

http://bikeweek.com/news.cfm/mode/details/id/2555
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One4Water - 12/11/2008 4:08 PM

So what happens when I take my legally registered,tagged and inspected bike down from PA? MY tag is sideways and passes state inspection. The taillight has a built in reflector but no extras are back there and none on the tag.

It's legal here and I am not changing a thing to cross state lines. So far I have not received a ticket in any other state. I doubt out of staters will be made to pay. It's the same as if I drove my car from PA to Jersey. Jersey needs plates front and rear, PA only rear. They will not ticket for not having a front plate if your home state does not require one.

Those fines seem way extreme. I doubt they will be able to enforce for legal out of state bikes. Maybe for locally registered ones they will though.

I would be interested to see what they do.
You are correct - Interstate Commerce and all that - no judge or prosecuters would enforce this on out of state bikes. I would guess law enforcement has been so advised.

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Did this law already pass? This is the first I have heard of it. Ussually they mention these things in the AMA (American Motorcycle Association) magazine.
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So what happens when I take my legally registered,tagged and inspected bike down from PA? MY tag is sideways and passes state inspection. The taillight has a built in reflector but no extras are back there and none on the tag.

It's legal here and I am not changing a thing to cross state lines. So far I have not received a ticket in any other state. I doubt out of staters will be made to pay. It's the same as if I drove my car from PA to Jersey. Jersey needs plates front and rear, PA only rear. They will not ticket for not having a front plate if your home state does not require one.

Those fines seem way extreme. I doubt they will be able to enforce for legal out of state bikes. Maybe for locally registered ones they will though.

I would be interested to see what they do.
You are correct - Interstate Commerce and all that - no judge or prosecuters would enforce this on out of state bikes. I would guess law enforcement has been so advised.
I have after market pipes on my bikes that meet the NC decibel laws. However, California has laws that would probably render them illegal. Can I go to California and ride my bike legally? Not challenging you at all because I totally agree with your statement.
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if you want to ride a wheelie at 100 mph during rush hour on a busy road you deserve a ticket. fn punk ass kids on crotch rockets deserve all they get. i dont feel a bit sorry for these a holes that wrap around a tree at 100 mph when my wife is on her way home from work and gets cut off by one. In fact i kind of smile when i hear on the news that one has bit the big one being a dumb ass, and i think all that ride responsibly have to agree, btw i dont ride but about 75% of my friends do and they all feel the same way. Man i feel better
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OK,
Took a little researching. F.S.S. 316. 2085 used to have 6 subsections. It now has 7 subsections with these new changes. They changed or inserted, if you will, a newsubsection 2 include that motorcycles must stay on two wheels and the rider must have one leg on each side of the bike blah blah. This was one of the new added sections along with changing the wordage on how the license tag must be displayed which is subsection 3.

So bottomline, my law book should be correct and its a moving violation as stated above.


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Im with you about the crotch rockets and non cruisng bikers.
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Thanks for looking into it Cracker. I hope the law men out there won't be too stricted about the reflector and the white light.
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OK,
Took a little researching. F.S.S. 316. 2085 used to have 6 subsections. It now has 7 subsections with these new changes. They changed or inserted, if you will, a newsubsection 2 include that motorcycles must stay on two wheels and the rider must have one leg on each side of the bike blah blah. This was one of the new added sections along with changing the wordage on how the license tag must be displayed which is subsection 3.

So bottomline, my law book should be correct and its a moving violation as stated above.
Do they give you guys classes or hand outs or something to keep everyone updated on new laws or refreshers on existing laws?
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JAGSARE1 - 12/11/2008 5:10 PM

It is for 2 reasons, to give police another reason to stop a motorcycle to look for other violations and the biggest reason is for the crotch rocket idiots(especially in S. Florida) who run the highways at 120mph + with impunity because the police know they can't catch them. In fact, in South Florida, allegedly, police have been told NOT to chase these bikers because of the danger to the the biker himself and the public. The hope is that they can simply get the tag(because it is easier to read now) and get them that way.

As usual, the stupidity of the few causes a headache for the many.
Bingo! The crotch rocket speeders are out of control down here. They have caused accidents resulting in injury and death due to their wrekless riding. I live close to I-95 and I can hear them all night long speeding up and down the highway.

This is just another example of how a group of ass holes can screw things up for the law abiding citizen. Just like the boat thieves screw things up for other boaters.
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OK,
Took a little researching. F.S.S. 316. 2085 used to have 6 subsections. It now has 7 subsections with these new changes. They changed or inserted, if you will, a newsubsection 2 include that motorcycles must stay on two wheels and the rider must have one leg on each side of the bike blah blah. This was one of the new added sections along with changing the wordage on how the license tag must be displayed which is subsection 3.

So bottomline, my law book should be correct and its a moving violation as stated above.
Do they give you guys classes or hand outs or something to keep everyone updated on new laws or refreshers on existing laws?
Yes we get updates, I had to dig back through all of them. Any gov't agency is real good at killing trees. But its like everything you cant remember all the laws and I do very little traffic enforcement, simply because I have bigger issues where I work than traffic.. And yes I would hope most Lawmen use some common sense, but like I have said attitude has a lot to do with it also....
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