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Old 12-07-2008, 04:35 AM
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Remember Pearl Harbor

7 December 1941:

0342: USS Condor, a minesweeper, sights periscope in restricted water off Pearl Harbor, Hawaii. Sends message via blinker light to destroyer USS Ward.

0610: Japanese carriers turn into the wind and commence launching aircraft.

0637: USS Ward fires on and sinks Japanese midget submarine in Pearl Harbor approaches.

0702: Opana Point radar station reports 50+ incoming aircraft.

0715: Ward’s report reaches Admiral Kimmel, who decides to wait for verification before taking action.

0720: Ft. Shafter operations center interprets Opana Point radar report as expected flight of bombers from the US.

0733: Based on decrypts of Japanese diplomatic traffic, US Chief of Staff General Marshall sends a war warning to General Short, commanding the Hawaiian defense zone. The message is sent via commercial telegram.

0753: First wave of 183 Japanese aircraft, led by torpedo bombers, arrive at Pearl Harbor.

0854: Second wave (170 aircraft) arrives.

1000: Japanese aircraft return to their carriers.

1145: General Marshall’s message from Washington, warning that the Japanese have broken off talks and this may mean war, arrives at General Short’s headquarters in Hawaii.

1300: Admiral Nagumo decides against launching a third wave and turns his carriers back toward Japan.

US losses: 2,403 (including 68 civilians) killed, 1,178 wounded. 20 ships damaged or sunk. 188 aircraft destroyed. Fourteen individuals win the Congressional Medal of Honor. US Navy loses more in one morning than they’d lost in all of WWI.

Japanese losses: 55 aviators, 9 submariners killed, 1 captured. 29 aircraft fail to return. 5 submarines sunk.

Franklin Roosevelt addressed a joint session of congress on 8 December:

Yesterday, 7 December 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.
The United States was at peace with that nation and, at the solicitation of Japan, was still in conversation with its Government and its Emperor looking toward the maintenance of peace in the Pacific. Indeed, one hour after Japanese air squadrons had commenced bombing in Oahu, the Japanese Ambassador to the United States and his colleague delivered to the Secretary of State a formal reply to a recent American message. While this reply stated that it seemed useless to continue the existing diplomatic negotiations, it contained no threat or hint of war or armed attack.

It will be recorded that the distance of Hawaii from Japan makes it obvious that the attack was deliberately planned many days or even weeks ago. During the intervening time the Japanese Government had deliberately sought to deceive the United States by false statements and expressions of hope for continued peace.

The attack yesterday on the Hawaiian Islands has caused severe damage to American naval and military forces. Very many American lives were lost. In addition American ships have been reported torpedoed on the high seas between San Francisco and Honolulu.

Yesterday the Japanese Government also launched an attack against Malaya.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Hong Kong.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Guam.

Last night Japanese forces attacked the Philippine Islands.

Last night Japanese forces attacked Wake Island.

This morning the Japanese attacked Midway Island.

Japan has, therefore, undertaken a surprise offensive extending throughout the Pacific area. The facts of yesterday speak for themselves. The people of the United States have already formed their opinions and well understand the implications to the very life and safety of our nation.

As Commander in Chief of the Army and Navy I have directed that all measures be taken for our defense.

Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us.

No matter how long it may take us to overcome this premeditated invasion, the American people in their righteous might will win through to absolute victory.

I believe I interpret the will of the Congress and of the people when I assert that we will not only defend ourselves to the uttermost but will make very certain that this form of treachery shall never endanger us again.

Hostilities exist. There is no blinking at the fact that our people, our territory, and our interests are in grave danger.

With confidence in our armed forces—with the unbounded determination of our people—we will gain the inevitable triumph—so help us God.

I ask that the Congress declare that since the unprovoked and dastardly attack by Japan on Sunday, 7 December, a state of war has existed between the United States and the Japanese Empire.

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Old 12-07-2008, 05:42 AM
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Truly a day any American will never forget
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Old 12-07-2008, 07:54 AM
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My Mom was there, grandfather was a destroyer commander who was one of the ones that got his ship out of the channel and harms way. She was 7 years old and they lived next to ADM Nimitz.

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Old 12-07-2008, 08:42 AM
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I was living in Anniston Al. my father was a battery commander after coming off the Arkansas-La. maneuvers. He shipped soon after and I did not see him for 5 years.
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"Always will we remember the character of the onslaught against us."




Well, in this PC world of ours, those words are barely mentioned these days.

Last year, our local newspaper didn't even have the Pearl Harbor Day article on the front page! It was on page 7 or so!

They did catch heat from it in the letters to the editor though. But maybe not enough.

Today's edition does have Pearl on the front page, but in a small font and on the bottom of the page.

The story about obama and Kennedy is in large font and on the top of the first page.

Priorities, I guess...

This is the same paper that did not even mention Christmas on the front page on 12-25-07, let alone "Merry Christmas" or even a PC "Happy Holidays".

They did have a large article about kwanza on its respective day though...







Our family will never forget Pearl Harbor Day. My grandfather lost his brother there. He took me to see the movie "Tora Tora Tora" when it hit the theater's. I still remember that day. It was the only movie that he ever took just me to see.

Our family now watches it every time that we know that it is on TV. I'm sure that it will be broadcast today. It usually is. We also have it on tape.

We also drive to a location that we can see the Mt. Diablo beacon that is only lit once per year for remembrence of Pearl Harbor Day (which of course, was not mentioned in today's newspaper article).

Yes, WE will always remember...

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Old 12-07-2008, 10:23 AM
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Menzies,
Thanks my Dad flew DC-3's?? (I'm not sure about the plane) over the "hump" in China to the Black Sheep my Mom has pictures of him somewhere with Pappy Boyington.
I remember him telling me they were filled with drums of gasoline !

I think it is sad, I do not feel America does not have the spirit that used to be here.
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It's funny how history of the war with Japan starts with Pearl Harbor, like there was nothing significant before that. Notice the absence of the word "unprovoked" in Roosevelt's speech.

Franklin Roosevelt addressed a joint session of congress on 8 December: Yesterday, 7 December 1941—a date which will live in infamy—the United States of America was suddenly and deliberately attacked by naval and air forces of the Empire of Japan.

Roosevelt was given a report and told, face to face, if the US did any one of the five things in the report, Japan would attack the US. Roosevelt ordered all five of those things, one being to move the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor.

Roosevelt wanted a war with Japan but the pubic was against helping in Europe. No way it would support starting a war in the 'lesser' East if it wouldn't support sending troops to an already active war in the 'greater' Europe. So to get the public behind the war he needed Japan to strike first. And she did. It worked, the pubic was suddenly behind the war and troops were off to Europe.

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My Grandfather was at Pearl Harbor on the USS Medusa repair ship. I have always enjoyed his account of the morning. I've called him every Dec. 7th since I can remember. He passed away three weeks ago. It has been a tough day.
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The real shame is that it happened again on September 11th, 2001.
For those who had lived through December 7th, 1941, 9/11 must have
been even more painful!

" Peace through strength " - Ronald Reagan
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Political correctness has toned down the exhibit in Hawaii to the point where the exhibit says that we basically forced the Japanese to attack because we cut off their energy resources. I have a little trouble with that justification. The fact remains that over 2000 Americans were killed that morning. Almost 70 years later, we somehow consider Japan to be our friend.

I'm not sure that if I were to live 70 years beyond September 11th, I could ever consider Muslim countries to be "our friends".
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Eyeball - 12/7/2008 9:49 AM

It's funny how history of the war with Japan starts with Pearl Harbor, like there was nothing significant before that. Notice the absence of the word "unprovoked" in Roosevelt's speech.

Roosevelt was given a report and told, face to face, if the US did any one of the five things in the report, Japan would attack the US. Roosevelt ordered all five of those things, one being to move the Pacific fleet from San Diego to Pearl Harbor.
I'm not sure how Japan telling us what we can or cannot do equates to or justifies an attack. If you've been to places like Palau and Truk, it is obvious that Japan was preparing for a war long before Roosevelt took office.

But after reading your response supporting Japanese whaling. I have to ask if I am reading something into this or are we on different sides here?

Here's the whaling thread: http://www.thehulltruth.com/forums/t...224820&posts=3
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My father served in the Pacific January 1943 came home June 1946.

He and my mom were married June 30, 1946.

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My parents sponsored exchange students from japan when I was in high school and they had school work that was done everyday during the summer. One day when were looking at one of the history books while he was studying something else and it was amazing that there was no mention of WWII or I should say Japans roll in it.

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