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Old 12-03-2008, 04:23 AM
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I understand this was a bonehead thing he did but I really do not understand all the arrests and charges for some dumb ass shooting himself in the leg and also
the investigation of Pierce for driving him to the hospital.

Is this all the LEO's have to worry about or is it just an easy high profile case
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I guess it's about having the weapon and discharging it in a nightclub - alcohol and guns don't normally mix, and there is your proof!

What gets me is that the Giants suspended him for 4 games AFTER their doctor examined him and said he would be out 4-6 weeks!!



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Just another overpaid thug that thinks he can get away with whatever he wants.
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He wasn't licensed to carry a handgun and I don't think it was registered. Mandatory minimums for that. I think he's screwed.
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tprice - 12/3/2008 7:23 AM

I understand this was a bonehead thing he did but I really do not understand all the arrests and charges for some dumb ass shooting himself in the leg and also
the investigation of Pierce for driving him to the hospital.

Is this all the LEO's have to worry about or is it just an easy high profile case
He was not licensed to carry in NY - which is a felony. They are investigating the hospital for not reporting the gun shot wound, which they are supposed to do.

LEO is in a tough spot on this one. Investigate and they get accused of having nothing better to do. Do not investigate and they get accused of letting a high profile athlete fly above the law. Personally, I have no problem with them investigating, it is their job.
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Menzies - 12/3/2008 7:29 AM

what gets me is that the Giants suspended him for 4 games AFTER their doctore examined him and said he would be out 4-6 weeks!!
Two things.

1) By suspending him, they do not have to pay him

2) They also placed him on the reserve non-football injury list, which means he is done for the year and can not come back for the playoffs.
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Yes, it was a really dumb thing to do, but the mandatory sentencing laws are absurd, since they put him in the same punishment category as a sociopathic drug dealer - not allowing circumstances to dictate sentencing. It is window dressing to cover up the fact that law enforcement is unwilling and incapable of going after real criminals. It is also political fodder to that arrogant pr%^k Bloomberg who would be happy to erase the 2nd amendment from the books.
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It is also political fodder to that arrogant pr%^k Bloomberg who would be happy to erase the 2nd amendment from the books.
I heard Bloomberg's latest bright idea is to pay people not to shoot each other.
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Fuggem..... I might be able understand a little guy that can't defend himself packing, but not a football star that'd probably be a soup line or jail if it weren't for football.
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If I need an act of God to carry legally in NY and I live within the laws then he should swing for violating them.
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Yes, it was a really dumb thing to do, but the mandatory sentencing laws are absurd, since they put him in the same punishment category as a sociopathic drug dealer - not allowing circumstances to dictate sentencing. It is window dressing to cover up the fact that law enforcement is unwilling and incapable of going after real criminals. It is also political fodder to that arrogant pr%^k Bloomberg who would be happy to erase the 2nd amendment from the books.
I will say this till I am dead... the 2nd amendment in no way took into consideration the current state of our big cities. I have a bunch of 100% valid arguments to support this view point if you want to hear them...
1st point... the only point I even need to bring up:
When do you have a clean shot in a city? What makes you think avg Joe is capable of deciding what a clean shot really is? Every time some wanna be cowboy fires a gun in a city, 100's of innocent people are at risk of being shot. Add the thugs & morons to that list & you have a problem.

That being said, the law is the law. He broke it. The law was written to control a huge problem with idiots & thugs Illegally carring guns. He is a idiot, 1/2 a thug & was Illegally carring.
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:38 AM
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Throw the book at him. Why should he not get the same sentence as average joe that gets busted for the same thing? That saying, "stupid hurts" applies here very nicely.
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Old 12-03-2008, 06:49 AM
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Its illegal to carry in NYC period, plus he was a nightclub. Stupid thug football players, if they couldnt catch a ball they would be dead or in jail.
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See they make all this money, but their in the spotlight 24/7. that's the price they pay
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I find it kinda funny.

Police need to enforce the laws, carrying without a permit, against the law, he wasn't caught in a dragnet. HE SHOT HIS OWN DUMBA$$.

Going after real crimminals: He carried a weapon, against the law. He fired the weapon in a public place, against the law.
Sounds to me like he is a criminal, police ought to be after him!

State of our cities. So what! You need to carry a gun to go some where to have fun, you need to look at where you are going to have fun. He had the option of staying home where he was safe.
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Old 12-03-2008, 07:00 AM
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Lets give poor Plaxico a break, after all he probably didn't know it was illegal to carry a concealed weapon in NYC. He was probably just as ignorant about the dangers of discharging a firearm in a crowded room. Obviously the safety on the weapon must have been defective because I'm almost certain that he accidentally had a round in the chamber. I mean, after all, who would knowingly carry a pistol in their waistband with a round in the chamber with the safety off?

Every time something like this happens I just shake my head and think "dumbass". He's got everything going for him yet he can't break the hood mentality. Like it or not, he is a role model for lots of kids. Instead of being a good role model, he shoots himself. Worst thing is, he'll probably get some "street cred" for being an idiot.

Apply the law evenly and give him the same punishment as any other moron who does the same thing. A law (or laws) were broken, whether by a drug dealer or a football star. They should be treated the same from investigation to arrest through to punishment.
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OReely - 12/3/2008 11:00 AMLets give poor Plaxico a break, after all he probably didn't know it was illegal to carry a concealed weapon in NYC. He was probably just as ignorant about the dangers of discharging a firearm in a crowded room. Obviously the safety on the weapon must have been defective because I'm almost certain that he accidentally had a round in the chamber. I mean, after all, who would knowingly carry a pistol in their waistband with a round in the chamber with the safety off? Every time something like this happens I just shake my head and think "dumbass". He's got everything going for him yet he can't break the hood mentality. Like it or not, he is a role model for lots of kids. Instead of being a good role model, he shoots himself. Worst thing is, he'll probably get some "street cred" for being an idiot.Apply the law evenly and give him the same punishment as any other moron who does the same thing. A law (or laws) were broken, whether by a drug dealer or a football star. They should be treated the same from investigation to arrest through to punishment.
I agree he broke the law and sending him to jail will provide a good example for young thugs and others.
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When do you have a clean shot in a city? What makes you think avg Joe is capable of deciding what a clean shot really is? Every time some wanna be cowboy fires a gun in a city, 100's of innocent people are at risk of being shot. Add the thugs & morons to that list & you have a problem.
What makes you think a cop is capable of a clean shot? Police accidentally shoot people 11% of the time. Civilians only 2% of the time.
George F. Will, "Are We 'a Nation of Cowards'?," Newsweek (15 November 1993):93

Thugs and morons are the reason people need their right to defend themselves.

NYC is basically supposed to be a gun free zone, yet some how Plexico got a gun in. If he can do it so can a crazy criminal. Duh. More reason that NYC should wake up and stop depriving people of their god given rights.
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HEDJUG - 12/3/2008 6:11 AMWhen do you have a clean shot in a city? What makes you think avg Joe is capable of deciding what a clean shot really is? Every time some wanna be cowboy fires a gun in a city, 100's of innocent people are at risk of being shot. Add the thugs & morons to that list & you have a problem.
What makes you think a cop is capable of a clean shot? Police accidentally shoot people 11% of the time. Civilians only 2% of the time. George F. Will, "Are We 'a Nation of Cowards'?," Newsweek (15 November 1993):93Thugs and morons are the reason people need their right to defend themselves.NYC is basically supposed to be a gun free zone, yet some how Plexico got a gun in. If he can do it so can a crazy criminal. Duh. More reason that NYC should wake up and stop depriving people of their god given rights.
NYC has long standing laws against hand gun, if you don't like them don't come!
I think it is illegal in most state to carry a concealed hand gun into a club.
This is not about gun control pro or con, it about the fact that he broke the law.

He is a dumb kid that broke the law. Now he should go to jail.
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Yes, it was a really dumb thing to do, but the mandatory sentencing laws are absurd, since they put him in the same punishment category as a sociopathic drug dealer - not allowing circumstances to dictate sentencing. It is window dressing to cover up the fact that law enforcement is unwilling and incapable of going after real criminals. It is also political fodder to that arrogant pr%^k Bloomberg who would be happy to erase the 2nd amendment from the books.
I will say this till I am dead... the 2nd amendment in no way took into consideration the current state of our big cities. I have a bunch of 100% valid arguments to support this view point if you want to hear them...
1st point... the only point I even need to bring up:
When do you have a clean shot in a city? What makes you think avg Joe is capable of deciding what a clean shot really is? Every time some wanna be cowboy fires a gun in a city, 100's of innocent people are at risk of being shot. Add the thugs & morons to that list & you have a problem.

That being said, the law is the law. He broke it. The law was written to control a huge problem with idiots & thugs Illegally carring guns. He is a idiot, 1/2 a thug & was Illegally carring.
You can keep on saying it until you are dead - maybe at the hands of some violent criminal who cares even less about the Sullivan act, than he does about the second amendment. Because the law does NOTHING to prevent violence in the inner cities.

And the constitution is the law of the land, regardless of what has changed since the 18th century. We don't leave it up to local jurisdictions to rationalize it away, based on their interpretation of the state of the union.
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