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Old 11-26-2008, 03:26 PM
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looking for some advice i have an older rack system stereo thats been repaired 2 times and in need again. i listen to a lot of music and use cerwin vega speakers . should i just replace the whole system and go with the bose home theater and play my music through it or keep a seperate system for both . i like it loud some times and wonder if the 2 small speakers and the sub from bose would give me the same results.and what would the life be from the speakers they are about 16 years old and still sound great
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why not just ditch the old setup and pick up a new higher end receiver and some good mid sized to large speakers (assuming the wife agrees) a pair of floor standers or even a good pair of monitors with a sub would be better than anything Bose makes.
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get a good home theater reciver and use the cv for the front mains and just add the other speakers that you need for 5.1, 7.1 ect.
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onkyo home revciver
keep the CV those are nice speakers
Old 11-26-2008, 05:18 PM
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The sky is the limit. What kind of budget are you in? Those CV's are good stuff. Better than the Bose IMO. I have 151's and 251's in a home theatre up north backed up with a Polk Sub and a Mirage center, Yami amp. The Yami amp is very good for what it is but I'm not in love with it.

Down here I only listen to music. NAD rack (bridged amps) with a very old (1981) pair of Koss floor speakers. They still sound good but I want an upgrade for them. Holding tight for a little while to see how current events pan out before I drop 3K on a fresh pair.

Yes I still shake the house and I'm glad I don't have neighbors nearby.
Old 11-27-2008, 05:37 AM
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ok this might sound like a stupid question but a lot has changed since i bought my last system. if i buy a 100 x 7 home theater reciever can i use it to power the cervin vega speakers and use a seperate channel for the tv. i dont have anything hooked up to the tv right now and just trying to see if i can do both with 1 receiver. if not no big deal im more interested in getting my tunes back. the receiver im looking at is the onkyo 706 gonna do sometime on fri as soon as the stores open and happy thanksgiving
Old 11-27-2008, 07:06 AM
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To answer your question; yes, 100w/channel will drive your speakers.

That said, if you are thinking home theater, you may want to take a look at the Marantz 5003 and 6003.



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It depends on how dynamic the speakers are.... 100 watts doesn't go very far with big, resistive load speakers.

I run an Onkyo TX-787 which is 100 watts x 6 inboard and has a hard time driving my Acoustic Research AR9's which have passive subs in each cabinet. I went out and bought the additional Onkyo 282B seperate amp and run my mains Bi-Wired so they actually get 210 watts rms each. That works better for my setup.

If you don't have huge mains with integrated subs then I would say 100 watts rms from most receivers will be adequate to run them.


As far as brands go, Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz,NAD, Rotel and if you want some of the best equipment that's barely known? Parasound (Halo line) the amps were designed by John Curl and they are nothing short of amazing!

That said... My Onk 787 has been a work horse, clean sound, decent power, above average build quality.
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my speakers are cervin vega are AT 12's- ive been using a technics system for a long time and not sure how strong it is but was plenty powerful as i have popped the fuses in back of the speakers a couple times the receiver has been repaired 2 times in the past 18 years and the last time the lab repaired it told me to start looking for some thing new if it happens again just want to make sure i only do it once and dont want to be bs'd by a sales guy
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Eyeball - 11/27/2008 10:06 AM . . you may want to take a look at the Marantz 5003 and 6003.
Speaking of Marantz, I bought a Marantz receiver brand new 32 years ago. I used / use it alot. It still works like the day it was brand new. The only problem I ever had with it was that I once had to spray cleaner in some of the controls and circuitry. I guess it got dirty over time.

Sorry, I know that doesn't help the original poster. Just thought I'd throw that out there.
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StingerII - 11/28/2008 12:23 AM

As far as brands go, Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz,NAD, Rotel and if you want some of the best equipment that's barely known? Parasound (Halo line) the amps were designed by John Curl and they are nothing short of amazing!

Denon, Marantz, Boston Acoustics, McIntosh and a handful of others are all owned by the same parent company, D&M Holdings. Parasound (Halo) are not in the same league as Yamaha, Denon, Rotel ..., including the Halo processors.


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Mayhem, you need to give us a little more info about what you actually want to achieve. (and what you want to spend)

Those Cerwin Vegas are... well they are what I'd call frat house speakers. They are very efficient and can take a lot of abuse. However they are really nothing to write home about when it comes to overall sound quality. (Not bashing them - I owned a pair of AT-15s and for what they were thought they were great, just that they are not "high end" they are "loud end" )

You have lots of choices. If you want to ditch the whole system you certainly can. If you just want to fix what's broke, you should be able to go out and buy any reasonably powered receiver and still get great sound out of your speakers. The good news is because those CVs are so efficient you don't need a lot of power. The bad news is, they don't rate things like they used to. In terms of sheer power, I do it old school and like to judge amplifiers on weight, the heavier, the better...

That onkyo looks like a good receiver - but IMO is probably overkill for your application. I would skip the cheap junk out there, but $300-400 can still buy a pretty good receiver and you can always take it back if you don't like what you end up with. If you really want to stick with stereo and want to match those speakers with something more appropriate - I'd hit up the local pawn shops, you can find some early 90s gear with massive amp stages (or even seperates) for dirt cheap and some of it is really pretty good, and it was back when 100w x 2 meant something. I used to drive my vegas with a 500w, 60 lb sony ES amp that was quite an experience.
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Eyeball - 11/27/2008 3:48 PM

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As far as brands go, Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz,NAD, Rotel and if you want some of the best equipment that's barely known? Parasound (Halo line) the amps were designed by John Curl and they are nothing short of amazing!

Denon, Marantz, Boston Acoustics, McIntosh and a handful of others are all owned by the same parent company, D&M Holdings. Parasound (Halo) are not in the same league as Yamaha, Denon, Rotel ..., including the Halo processors.


So what league are you putting the Parasound gear in? As a Parasound Halo owner, I'm curious...

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im not looking to spend a fortune would like to keep it under a grand and if i could get something to power my speakers for music and possibly hook to my tv then that would be fine. as far as the cv speakers i know they are not top of the line but better than a lot and they are good enough for me.with kids in the house that use the stereo the fact that the speakers are fused is a piece of mind.
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If your buying a reciever only and willing to spend that kind of coin, I'd stay out of box stores. Frankly, you will do much better staying out of them anyway. I was shocked when I went looking for high end stores locally. They are out there but you just need to uncover the right rocks. Great advise from people who know their product line.
Be warned, when you start hearing new speakers your going to start all over again.
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just found my manual for present system (hard to believe i still had it after over 16 years) its 135 watts per channel continious at 8 ohms so im gonna start looking again to see what i can find thats close
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StingerII - 11/28/2008 1:40 PM

Eyeball - 11/27/2008 3:48 PM

StingerII - 11/28/2008 12:23 AM

As far as brands go, Yamaha, Onkyo, Denon, Marantz,NAD, Rotel and if you want some of the best equipment that's barely known? Parasound (Halo line) the amps were designed by John Curl and they are nothing short of amazing!

Denon, Marantz, Boston Acoustics, McIntosh and a handful of others are all owned by the same parent company, D&M Holdings. Parasound (Halo) are not in the same league as Yamaha, Denon, Rotel ..., including the Halo processors.


So what league are you putting the Parasound gear in? As a Parasound Halo owner, I'm curious...
High-end without being stupid about it.

Parasound owner myself, rack mounted Halo amps and Halo C processor for the HT, and Parasound "Z" series amp/pre-amp for the times I am made to suffer with apt life. I like Vienna Acoustic so I tossed a couple of Hadens into my luggage along with a Parasound Z amp and Z pre-amp, brought them back to Japan with me. What a clean little set up!!! For under $1k a Parasound Z pre-amp and amp will fulfill the OP's requirements for stereo and TV through stereo speakers.

Fwiw, I also use a Parasound Z phono pre-pre-amp. I wanted something cheap and rack mountable to hold me over until I could get something decent...the Z phono amp is decent!


http://www.parasound.com/ParasoundZ/


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Eye,

I couldn't agree more!

I am saddened that my Halo P3 and my Technics SLBD22 had to move out of the living room. I just added a new tv,stand, blu ray and some other goodies and I just don't have the room for a big rack of stuff.

So now I need to find another location in the house to do my seperate 2Ch rig. This may give me the incentive to finish my 8.5' tall Line Array's and drive them off my ASL Wave20 Tube Monoblocks.

(here's the livingroom post Halo)


And before anyone asks, NO the carpet isn't pink.... it doesn't photograph well!


Onkyo TX-DS787 Receiver
Onkyo M-282B 2Ch Power Amp
2 Acoustic Research AR9 Mains (M-T-M with 10" sub in each) Bi-Wired
1 Acoustic Research AR4C Center
2 Acoustic Research PS216 Bookshelf's for surround
1 Home made 12" sub fed 500 watts rms from a Bob Carver TDC amp.

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What's wrong with pink?

It's my favorite color.
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I'm selling my Yamaha RX-V2400 130Wx7 receiver and B&W 603s fronts and the matching B&W center speaker. Crystal clear sound.
I'll be doing the ad and advertising on the usual places starting tomorrow.


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