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Old 07-06-2008, 08:57 PM
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I fished the Star Island Yacht Club tourney this past June and the winning team was disqualified for weighing in a Tiger shark they BOUGHT from a longliner. How low can someone be to cheat in a tournament? Everyone is spending a lot of money to have A GREAT DAY OF FUN on the water and hopefully win some in return and losers like these guys completely ruin it for EVERYONE. This has happened in many tournaments I have fished in South Florida as well...Any other expereinces out there? Thoughts?
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:34 PM
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Cheating....in sports...for financial gain....say it's not so?
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Old 07-06-2008, 09:37 PM
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Next thing you know people will be cheating in king fish tournaments.....
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:07 PM
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Karma is a biotch. Cheaters never get ahead in life.
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Old 07-06-2008, 10:13 PM
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I remember years a go a guy was cought with forzen sail fish at a tourney in key west ,it was a local charter boat.
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Old 07-06-2008, 11:40 PM
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Why not? Afterall - there is no one watching or policing the tournament to make sure it is truly fair.

That is why I could care less about tournament. It's never fair. Not to mention - the fees are rediculous.

Cheating is OLD NEWS!
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Old 07-07-2008, 03:26 AM
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Next thing you know they will be popping steriods before they grab the rod/reel


I know most tournaments will require a polygraph test after the tournament. In fact I watched a sailfish tx this weekend in KW and they showed all the captains hooked up to a polygraph



People will do strange things when there is money involved and nobody watching
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:09 AM
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Another reason for kill tournaments to become a thing of the past.
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Old 07-07-2008, 05:23 AM
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imagine, on the back of the entry stubb:



".......and may the best cheater with the fastest boat win."





Seriously, a situation like that discredits the whole tournament and puts a black eye on future tournaments.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:20 AM
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What was the name of the boat?
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What was the name of the boat?
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:31 AM
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As an avid golfer, I am appauled... Danny, don't count that I am just improving my lie.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:38 AM
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Kenner21 - 7/6/2008 9:37 PM

Next thing you know people will be cheating in king fish tournaments.....
Do you think that teams arent? Come on give me a break.....

When ''cheaters'' go out to Pre-Fish 1-2 days before the tourney and they hook up with a hog 45lbs+ do you think that they will really let it go???? It's not like people havent done it.......thats life You got Cheaters that are just low life's. You go out and play by the rules, pay your entry fee, and fish......But knowing that this is/can be happening is just disgust.
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Old 07-07-2008, 06:43 AM
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If you want to take all the fun out of fishing, call it a tournament.
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mrossj1 - 7/7/2008 9:31 AM

As an avid golfer, I am appauled... Danny, don't count that I am just improving my lie.
Winter rules.........
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Old 07-07-2008, 07:03 AM
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Booker - 7/7/2008 6:43 AM

If you want to take all the fun out of fishing, call it a tournament.
+1!

Fishing a Tounrey is not easy.....Pre-fishing 2-3 days before the event. Get little to NO SLEEP on the Tourney day. Spending large amounts of $$$. The only fun I have in it is waking up around 4 or 5 and running off-shore at 45mph. lol
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Old 07-07-2008, 08:29 AM
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BabyJane - 7/6/2008 11:57 PM

I fished the Star Island Yacht Club tourney this past June and the winning team was disqualified for weighing in a Tiger shark they BOUGHT from a longliner. How low can someone be to cheat in a tournament? Everyone is spending a lot of money to have A GREAT DAY OF FUN on the water and hopefully win some in return and losers like these guys completely ruin it for EVERYONE. This has happened in many tournaments I have fished in South Florida as well...Any other expereinces out there? Thoughts?
Not True. The disqualified team caught a dusky shark that was misidentified by them as a tiger. The fish was big, and mangled from being dragged into port at a fast speed to make the daily cutoff. Duskys are protected, and as such, do not count in the tourney. Star Island released a press statement in order to clarify this situation. You can find the listing here. the General Manager of Star Island, Richard Janis, posted as "nobusiness"

http://www.noreast.com/discussion/Vi...=110067&page=8


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To all,

I would like to thank all who participated in the 22nd Annual Star Island Shark Tournament. There has been a lot of talk, speculation and exaggerated “fish tales” of what occurred on Friday.

Posted internet blogs are making claims of cheating and that inappropriate relationships exist between Star Island and certain individuals. These accusations ARE FALSE. Star Island does not maintain inappropriate relationships with tournament entries or any individuals that would grant or curry favor.

The bottom line is: No one cheated. A fish arrived at the dock. Immediate action was taken and the fish was disqualified without delay. That alone should end the stories and allow all participants to feel comfortable that at Star Island the rules are enforced.

On Friday, when the boat arrived, the anglers informed us that they had a Tiger Shark. At that time, a tournament participant approached a judge informing him that they were prepared to protest the fish because they claimed the boat returned late. While the “late ruling” was being confirmed, the process of lifting the fish from the boat began. Once the fish was lifted out, it was determined by the NMFS Scientists that the fish was a Dusky, which made the late issue a moot point as the fish was automatically disqualified.

Immediately we took action. The scientists notified their superiors who logged the information and requested the dissection of the fish for marine study purposes. In addition, the scientists confirmed the fish was a fresh catch.

The judges decided that there was no foul play. The anglers made an honest non-intentional identification mistake and therefore they were permitted to fish on day two.

We did not announce what occurred due to ethical, moral and legal obligations. Our first obligation was to report the catching of this fish to the proper authorities.

Until that report was complete we could not speak about the situation. While the species of the fish takes precedent the point of the boat being late was not objected to. So the rumor spread that the boat was late.

While many would have broadcasted this honest mistake our immediate obligation was to fulfill our reporting requirements, not to ostracize the anglers.

Star Island runs this tournament for the love of sports fishing in a family environment. When someone makes the accusations that have been made, it implies that I would jeopardize the reputation of the Tournament, Star Island, its owner and myself. I find those accusations to be outrageous. My goal has always been to make the Star Island experience a great one for you.

As of this writing our reporting requirements have been met. So, for the record; no-one cheated. An honest identification mistake was made; the fish was a fresh catch.

I hope this satisfies all of your concerns.

Respectfully Yours,


Richard Janis
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Maybe Arlen Specter should start a senate investigation..........
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:47 AM
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Fishing tournements are a waste of time just so some jerk offs can go out and destroy living creatures in attempt to become what they think is a man when in reality it is a sick affair to make money for the greedy.
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Old 07-07-2008, 10:53 AM
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kryptonite - 7/7/2008 1:47 PM

Fishing tournements are a waste of time just so some jerk offs can go out and destroy living creatures in attempt to become what they think is a man when in reality it is a sick affair to make money for the greedy.
Not for nothing Krypto, but you have a total of 3 posts, ALL OF WHICH ARE NEGATIVE. This forum, or any other for that matter, can do without people like you.
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