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Old 04-17-2008, 03:46 PM
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I sold my old engine today that was on a rack at my mechanics. I make arrangements for the buyer to see it run and he brings his own mechanic who goes over it. He makes an offer and I accept. My mechanic loads it in the back of his truck and he tells me he wants to write out a bill of sale. I say ok, what ever. He then wants my drivers license number on the bill of sale. I tell him hell no and he looked shocked that I wouldn't give it to him. He said he wanted it in case the motor was stolen and still wanted it after my mechanic offered to print out the entire service history with my name on it.

The engine was already in the back of his truck at this point and it was 30 minutes past closing time for my mechanic so I gave it to him. He had my name and address already on the bill of sale which is totally unnecessary considering the amount. Most deals I've done like this were completed with a hand shake and I felt like this guy wanted my life history. Was I wrong to get pissed off?
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Old 04-17-2008, 03:59 PM
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You were wrong to get upset. The buyer did not know you and wanted to make sure if the motor turned up stolen he could show the cops he tried to do the correct thing. Dealing in stolen property is very common and being charged as an accessory to this is a tough deal. Anyway if you don't know who you have sold or purchased an item from you better get some ID to cover you A** in case it turns up either stolen or in the wrong hands if it was an item you sold. A hand shake is in the past. In Florida if the item has an ID # and can be traced to you, You better have a bill of sale and it needs to be dated and have witness's with their ID. If they impound it or find it in a place it does not belong the last registered owner WILL be responsible for it unless they can prove otherwise and he said she siad will not work.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:04 PM
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I asked a couple friends about the situation and they basically said the same thing so I called him and apologized for the way I acted.
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Old 04-17-2008, 06:26 PM
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as long as you don't give out you SS# its all good I don't think your license # can do much harm
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Old 04-17-2008, 07:33 PM
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I think that you were not wrong to get POd for this reason: there is no valid reason or legal requirement for adding a driver's license number to a personal property bill of sale. No harm in allowing him to look at your driver's license to confirm that the name on the DL matches the bill of sale, and that the photo matches you, but to actually write it on the bill of sale?, I would not have done it.

The horse is already out of the barn so to speak, but you now know that it may have been a better idea to exchange the $$$ and paperwork before loading the engine into the truck for obvious reasons. I'm thinking that you do not know this buyer, so how do you know for sure what he'll do with that DL information now? How 'bout identity theft?, or possibly other false or fictitious documents? By the way, your DL # is not the same as your SS #, is it?

If he had any reason to suspect or think that the engine was stolen, then he should not have proceeded with the purchase at that moment or at all. Except in the example of some other relevant information or circumstance, I'd have been inclined to instruct my mechanic to remove the engine from the truck and to just put it back on the rack, to thank the customer for his time, and then to end the conversation. One of two things would have happened, you'd still own the engine, or he would. Either way, your DL # would not be on the bill of sale.

It was not unreasonable of him to expect to receive a formal bill of sale from you, though, no matter what the amount or circumstance. The bill of sale would have been where you would have inserted the condition of sale - "as is, where is" - that is presumably the condition under which you are sold the engine to him.

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Old 04-17-2008, 09:10 PM
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Regardless of whether or not you were justified in not wanting to give out your DL number/info, there was nothing going on with your transaction that rises to the level of necessitating getting excited or PO'd. A simple "no" would have been fine.

That said, you are 10-times the man of most simply because you had the balls to step up and apologize. And again, it does not matter of you had anything to apologize for, it matters that you thought you did and you followed threw on that. Hat's off to you, Dorado.

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Old 04-18-2008, 04:02 AM
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Especially living in Florida, you never know whats "hot" and whats not.
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Old 04-18-2008, 05:24 AM
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Eyeball - 4/18/2008 12:10 AM

Regardless of whether or not you were justified in not wanting to give out your DL number/info, there was nothing going on with your transaction that rises to the level of necessitating getting excited or PO'd. A simple "no" would have been fine.

That said, you are 10-times the man of most simply because you had the balls to step up and apologize. And again, it does not matter of you had anything to apologize for, it matters that you thought you did and you followed threw on that. Hat's off to you, Dorado.
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Old 04-18-2008, 06:09 AM
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As public a sale as you made that with vin # posted here I think it was unnesasary to provide that additional info. Its not like the deal was done in a parking lot somewhere.
Glad to hear you made safe return, did you get new motor hooked up?
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