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Old 01-07-2008, 05:42 PM
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My lot has a right of way that allows the two neighbors at the end of the street get to their houses. They are the last two houses on a dead end street. I have to keep it clear so they have access but do I have to let them haul ass? I am thinking of putting up a speed bump. We have a guest house on the other side of the street where the other home owners don't own on the other side. We have seven houses on the street and one of the houses before us owns the land on the other side of the street except where our house is. We are on a private road and there are no posted speedlimits. All the neighbors that are on the street before us are complaining about the two houses at the end of the street. They have a bunch of kids so they are forever going back and forth. The parents are the worst. One of their sons has a black Cadillac and by default he drives slow because he wants to keep it clean. It is not so bad except when I have just washed the car and the dust they make make it seem like they are on the set of the Dukes of Hazzard. What can I do? Can I legally slow them down? The road is as wide as a car width. They sometimes are going 35mph where everyone else goes 10 mph or less. We have all asked them to slow down and it has gotten us nowhere. Any ideas? Please don't suggest we start a HOA.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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Assuming the ROW is not paved

On each side of the ROW, dig a 3 foot wide, by 7 foot long, by 5 foot deep trench. Cover each trench with 1/4 plywood. Lightly cover the plywood with some material to blend in with the rest. The next time they come speeding down the ROW, they will get the point in a real hurry.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:10 PM
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http://www.newpig.com/en_US/main.jht...umps+and+Humps

thats my suggestion, I hope the link works, if not cut and paste it.
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Old 01-07-2008, 06:32 PM
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A prefab speed bump is easily removed...........go to the box stores and buy their damaged or open bags of concrete and make your own. Stagger them; left then right then left. They don't have to be huge. Make about 10 of them.

If you are the one than has the easement, you might be able to put in an automatic gate, in guise of security, of course they would have to have the codes.......that would try their patience! make it open and close nice and slow.

Or, you can put in a cattle gaurd.

Hard to say what you could do because they have the right to access their residence and of course the issue of damage to their car because of something you installed.

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Old 01-07-2008, 06:49 PM
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I would consider some rise and dips, where if you go over a rise at a certain speed then hit the dip the up/down effect becomes more and more dramatic. Going too fast and the car starts to buck and bronc.
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Have you ever heard of a "heaver"?
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Old 01-07-2008, 10:32 PM
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Dig holes,big pot holes and fill them with water!It would be just like driving on Louisiana roads.
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Old 01-08-2008, 12:55 AM
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Hmmm, I'm sure it is only a right-of-way for approved (legal) activity. If they are doing something illegal on that right-of-way don't you have the right to restrict or deny access to your property
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Old 01-08-2008, 03:59 AM
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If they have a deeded R-O-W, it maybe difficult to resrict them in anyway. I've had friends in the reverse situation and their lawyer told them to bash down the gate with a tractor, but in that case the owner refused to give them a key.

You should get a copy of the deed and carefully read the provision describing the R-O-W. Keeping it "clear" may simply mean not blocking it and removing debris. You could also argue that "maintaining" could mean the same thing and a few small potholes (as suggested above) wont legally be aproblem.

If you are at the end of your rope, check with the tax asesor and make sure they are paying any applicable taxes on the R-O-W. Frequently R-O-W's are missed in the assesment but are legally part of real-estate value and may decrease your taxes because for you, it's an encumbrance and you cant do anything with that part of the property.

Another thing you can do is to put in a fence next to the R-O-W, or some kind of markers. Hedges may help with the dust problem but then you'd probably have to trim them. I always feel less comfortable going fast in a tight spot. You probably will be less than thriled to pay money just to get someone to excercise a little courtesy.

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Old 01-08-2008, 04:30 AM
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I have / had a carbon copy situation as you with 2 kids at the end of my block doing mach 3 up a private road. Right at the start of my property line I added a prefab speed bump with a 2" I beam under it for added "bump" secured it by driving re-bar into the ground at either end. No more speeding, just dirty looks from the kids.
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Old 01-08-2008, 05:48 AM
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Thanks for the replies... I used to have some good pot-holes and that would slow them down... They filled them in while I was away for a weekend... The neighborhood has talked about paving and each house wants a speed bump except for the last two houses. They don't want to pave either. Since I am going to be the last house with the paved street then they will make a mess with bringing dirt and gravel on their tires onto my new paved road as they come from their houses. I would think this would wear out my pavement faster. I am going to get two of the plastic speedbumps and put one on each side of the property. We have small brick walls that divide the lots and they won't be able to drive around in the grass if I put them there. The paving contractors want to build the bumps out of asphalt for $900 each. The portion of road infront of our house is going to cost me $4,000 to pave so this is kind of worrying me feeling like I am throwing good money away for them to have a dragstrip.
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Old 01-08-2008, 08:21 AM
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Just because they have a R-O-W, doesnt mean they have the right to improve it. If you dont want them to pave it, check with the town, they may need permits that require your permission.

Before you try negatively "playing by the rules" talk to your neighbors that arent part of the problem. Tell them you feel paving will make the situaton worse and suggest you leave it to nature.

Passive-Agressive can work for you!

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Old 01-08-2008, 08:32 AM
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I have a ROW on my property. There are 2 speed humps on it. We have not had issues with the homeowners. Their workers were an issue, but I contacted my neighbor and they took care of it.

I would talk to the neighbors first.

If you get no resolution, then my position would be that I own the property. My only obligation is to not prohibit access to the rear lots over the portion of the ROW. Therefore, I would put up speed bumps, put up obnoxious signs and madonna's along the side of the ROW, etc. and make it so that they are embarrassed to have people drive to their house.

Or worse, but try to work with them first, b/c it will get ugly.
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Old 01-09-2008, 04:39 PM
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And some people in NC still do not want zoning laws. I was on a planning board and landowners hated zoning laws until something like this happened. How or why does the county allow subdivisions of land with no street access? how can an ambulance or fire truck access the homes down a small path? How or why do the banks lend money for homes with no street access?

Go to the county and find out the law and or restrictions for ROW's or flag lots. I would think you can slow them down.
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Old 01-10-2008, 07:49 AM
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About 10 years ago I rented a house that was at the end of a lot that had ROW access. The road was horrible. There were 2 speed bumps and potholes everywhere. I asked the owner to fix the road or at least make it driveable, but I never got any resolution with the owner. I called everyone in the city/county and all I could get was that it was a private road and the owner was only responsible for allowing me access.

So check with the city/county. You can probably put as many speed bumps in as you want. This was in South Carolina.
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Tireless - 1/7/2008 8:03 PM

Have you ever heard of a "heaver"?




...hmm...what is this "heaver" of which you speak?


...its name implies mystical powers..
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Old 01-27-2008, 03:03 PM
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Shay,

Sorry to hear about this. I know how close that is to your house and I can only imagine how frustrating that would be. There has to be a remedy within your legal rights that should solve this. Esp. because of the safety issue involved. I hope you have found a bit of relief somehow. Hope to see you soon.

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Old 01-27-2008, 03:10 PM
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Do like the "heaver" approach.........works wonders.......(ooops...where dis brick come from dat is now on my front
dash board)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Do like the "heaver" approach.........works wonders.......(ooops...where dis brick come from dat is now on my front
dash board)>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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Old 01-27-2008, 06:28 PM
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I am the first house on a dead end street and I get everything. 20 somethings in everuthing from a 88 olds bravada to a rat pack 78 260Z drifting around the corner and hitting at least 60 in a 25mph zone and then locking up the brakes at the last possible moment to avoid breaching the controlled intersection. Just smile when they go by, and if there is one more pickup or tahoe with glass packs bellowing past the house, it will be ..........hey that was me......

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