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Old 11-04-2007, 12:52 PM
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I thought what I bought was going to be a great deal...wrong.i bought a 2 month old Echo CS440 for a 100$ with a broken rope I fixed the rope and tried to start it 100 times.I have done everything from filters to vents.I took it to an Echo dealer who wants 200$ to make it work (new piston and CDI module,carb rebuild). The saw was getting spark but no fuel.I didnt have alot of cofidence in the mechanic. Am I getting ripped off??

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Old 11-04-2007, 01:19 PM
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That is fair for that amount of work but it seems like you'd be throwing your money away, you can get a brand new saw for that, I'd sell it on ebay and someone that can do the repair them self will buy it. I attached a link to the saw on ebay although I'd go with stihl or husqvarna, not the lowes husqvarna the real stuff at a saw shop. what are you cutting?
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:29 PM
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Get a Stihl and be done with it.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:31 PM
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I've got a MS460 Stihl that I'll sell ya for $350 plus shipping. It is the man when it comes to saws. I'll guarantee it to check out perfect. Probably 8 hrs on it. Most of the time was spent locked in a tool box.




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Old 11-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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There are 2 brands of chain saws. One is Husky, the other is Stihl. Echo is great for other items.

You could look at another shop first but 200 for the work he's going to do is a fair price. How does he know it needs a box if it has spark? Why rebuild a 2 month old carb? Did it have compression? If so why the piston?

It may be that someone ran no mix fuel thru it and burnt up the piston. It wouldn't be the first time it happened. The other thing that kills them is right off of cold start some numb ass runs it off the high speed governor.

Like said... Buy from a local shop.

I love my 2 Huskys. My 257 is my go to saw, It has cut up a lot of trees and never failed me in 13 or so years. Starts 5 pulls maximum and I don't need no stinkin girlie compression release. I also have a smaller one (gift) as a spare/light duty saw.
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Old 11-04-2007, 01:36 PM
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"I don't need no stinkin girlie compression release."

You'll learn to love it on a cold morning cranking a 6hp MS460.
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Old 11-04-2007, 02:40 PM
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The saw had 90psi and good spark. first he said it had a leak but I checked the pulse from the crank case it was good.He then rebuilt the carb still not starting.. He then calls me and says it needs a new crank, piston and CDI. Like I said im thinking hes a part changer.

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Old 11-04-2007, 03:14 PM
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IMO if you have fire, and aren't at least even getting a pop from the motor, one of two things is going on, either a trash carb that is completely flooding out the motor to the point where it can't even fire, or a bad CDI box. This is if his prior statement of the motor having compression is true. Echo isn't a bad saw by any means, but that is not something that I would ever consider buying from anywhere other than a servicing dealer, unless you are going to treat it as a throw away item. I would especially never buy a small engine two stroke used, just too many people who don't have a clue how to care for such things that may or may not have trashed them prior to you getting them.

IMO the new Husqvana saws are getting closer and closer to the trash category every day. Their motors are great, but everything else on them is getting cheaper and cheaper. The only saws from them that I have seen that are worth having are the sure enough high end models, and personally having grown up running a saw quite a bit, most situations just don't require a huge saw with a 24" + bar. I would much rather run something a little smaller & lighter for around the house work. If you are going to spend the money on something decent, go ahead and get a Stihl, new, and from your local dealer, they pretty well have set pricing on them, and your dealer will be much more prone to helping you out in the service end if something should happen under warranty.
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Old 11-04-2007, 07:32 PM
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Chainsaws are easy. Pull the muffler off so you can see the piston. If it is AFU'ed, than you need a new saw. If the plug is soaked than it is flodded. Some saws have an intake manifold the looks like a rubber boot. That clamps between the motor and the case. That leaks air. Stihl and Homelite come to mind. The fuel line goes bad all the time on these little machines. The E-10 kills that black rubber.

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