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Old 10-14-2007, 10:27 AM
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Do any of you guys have any experience with a sat service that provides both entertainment television and internet access with the same earth station? I have been trying to decipher Hughes website, but it seems to talk about one service or the other, and never really says whether you get both in the same box.

And emailing them for info just gets an automated response that takes you back to the web site.
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Old 10-14-2007, 10:41 AM
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All the Hughes net modems I've seen are separate. The Direct receiver is totally separate. Pretty sure they don't have a combined unit. I think redneck joe is a installer for direct, might be for dish, regardless I'm sure he knows for sure.
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Old 10-14-2007, 03:30 PM
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You could get Bayliner Satelite Services. Very reliable and not expensive. Unfortunately, it is lower tier.
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Old 10-14-2007, 04:44 PM
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Gringo,

I still have mounted at work a Hughs dish that does both. One lnb does the internet, the other lnb does the Direct Tv.

Direct TV is awesome........Hughs net internet sucks the big one. Unless you have no other choice, forget it. Use your dial up. Big time latency, dropped connections, HTTPS problems, weather problems.....I could go on and on. I would not take it if they gave it to me.

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Old 10-14-2007, 05:13 PM
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That and the Hughes setup requires a VERY stable, fixed antenna. It's one thing to have a bit of alignment variation when receiving signals, but sending them back up to the bird requires being very accurate.
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Old 10-15-2007, 02:18 AM
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You can't get them combined any longer. If you want both, you'll have to get two dishes. I have hughesnet and it works just fine. A little expensive but in my area cable and dsl are not available so it is my only choice other than dialup.
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Old 10-15-2007, 06:10 AM
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miles aweigh - 10/14/2007 6:30 PM

You could get Bayliner Satelite Services. Very reliable and not expensive. Unfortunately, it is lower tier.














Stay away from Sat internet if at all possible. Other option is Wild Blue.

If you do have to go that route - get the best installer you can find - get references - the installation of these dishes is very finicky and if not done properly you will have issues as described. If done right, slowish but still dependable.

Unfortunately our industry struggles with finding and keeping true professionals that care about their work.
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Old 10-15-2007, 03:57 PM
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:40 PM
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Well, I dont know what the other options are. There is no cable, no phone lines run there. We will be using a microwave based phone. Sat is the only other thing I can think of.

And of course, I will be installing it myself. No local installer.
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Old 10-15-2007, 04:53 PM
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Gringo,

You may want to contact Hughes before you go any further about doing a self install.

When our system was live, it has to be setup by a certified registered installer that is qualified and has the tools to do so. The alignment is much tougher then a Direct TV dish. Its a hole lot different when you are shooting back to the satellite instead of just receiving from it. He used to connect a laptop up to the dish outside to set it up.

Maybe that has changed since I have not used it in a while, buts that's how it was when ours was active.

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Old 10-15-2007, 05:47 PM
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When I moved from MA to NJ, I "inherited" a DirectPC setup in NJ. In the two years I lived there, I had to loosen the bolts on the antenna and move it several times. Usually what precipitated this was signal degradation, which we could measure with the PC. Basically, signal strength. I found out how sensitive the system was. I also figured out that the problems happened typically after a couple of heavy snowfalls in a row. Someone in the household would take a broom and sweep the snow off the dish. After a few of these in a row, signal degraded and I had to reset it. I also think the installation could have been more solid. The dish was mounted to the outside wall of a wood frame house, screwed to wood siding. Wood siding moves. Conventional frame houses expand,and contract, and vibrate. If you really want to see how much, try setting up a 4.5 inch reflector telescope on a wooden second story floor in a wooden house looking out an open window at a distant galaxy, or even the rings of Saturn. The vibration is very much in evidence, with someone heavy just walking in the house.

I bring that up to illustrate that I do understand how important a solid, precisely aligned dish is.
down here, we would be using a large dish reflector. I dont know the exact dimensions, but the circular one about five or six feet in diameter. Since I would be buying the system in the US and sending it down here, it makes sense for me to install it from the get go, since I will be the one to maintain it anyway.

I am not sure Hughes will even officially ship a system to a foreign country. They are licensed to operate by the FCC, I believe, and therefore have no license to operate in the Caribbean. They will sell systems to people in Puerto Rico and the US Virgin Islands, ( US territories under US rules) so the problem is not one of access...just that they are not legally authorized to transmit to other countries.

I think thats the issue,anyway. I also know they have no problems with people buying sat TV systems and installing them on motorhomes or boats that leave the US, so thats my approach. I will use a US address, a US credit card to set up the account, and have them ship a system to a US location. Where someone will re-ship it to me.

Does that all make sense? If I pour a solid concrete base, and make a rock solid antenna mount, would you guys feel better about sat internet, or would it still suck?
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Old 10-16-2007, 04:46 AM
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They make heaters that attach to the back side of the dish to keep snow and ice off. Not something you'll need in the islands though!

Not sure the Hughes system will work in the islands. I'd imagine the beam coverage coming down FROM the satellites has a much wider spread than does the receiver up on it. But as you suggest there may not be a legal way to use it, thus the bird might not even be able to listen to uplinks from that lat/long.
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Old 10-16-2007, 05:22 AM
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Both Puerto Rico and the USVI are south of us. I dont think Hughes cares, but from a legal standpoint they don't have the licensing authority to say its okay.

THIS country doesnt care. It fairly bristles with tv dishes, and we can listen to several channels of pirated XM sat radio on the FM stations.
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Old 10-17-2007, 09:23 AM
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Gringo,
There is a product called Starband, it does internet only. We use it for our customers that need internet access only. We install them in and around the Gulf Of Mexico for the Oil and Gas Industry. The service is great, I have even been to their Georgia Teleport. They do have a note that it requires a certified installer, that is due to haveing to do a Peak, Cross-Pole, and Co-Pole adjustments, reason for this is you are not only recieving but also transmitting and you can affect other Satellite Customers. If you are in the in the southern Gulf of Mexico or the Carribian you my need a 1.2meter dish and not the .75meter that is standard for Starband. Check out their site and see if there are dealers in your local.
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