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Old 10-12-2007, 03:57 PM
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Just read about GM new 4.5 liter Diesel for 1/2 ton pickups--- V-8 @310 hp and 510 torque-- will be ready to purchase if it get good milage 25-27--- Love my max but over kill @ 625 lbs torque-- I am not moving a house just a 6K load 2/3 times a week---- Anyone heard any news--- I read on dieselpage.com
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Old 10-12-2007, 04:10 PM
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Both GM and Ford are coming out with 6cyl diesels that will be available in their 150 series PU trucks and large SUV's and it's possible GM's may come out first. I'm not knowledgeable on which one will come out first, but I do know they will both be available in the next year - maybe someone else has better & more specific information?
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Dodge / Cummins will have a new V-8 diesel for the 2009 Ram, smaller than the current diesel.

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Old 10-12-2007, 05:11 PM
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There is an article on the various new diesels in the current issue of Truck Trend.

I just got my issue yesterday and only had time to breeze through it, so nothing specific until I get a chance to read it.
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Old 10-12-2007, 05:18 PM
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VW is cranking out small diesels like mad in Europe. It's nuts that we don't have more small diesels available here. Bring em on!
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My wife drives a Jeep liberty CRD(common rail diesel) the #'s say 160 hp 300 LB/FT of torque This thing feels much stronger and the 28 mpg everywhere is fairly nice for an SUV We have seen 31 mpg on a trip but we were pushing to get somewhere I'm certain back it off to 65-68 on cruise you can do much better
If and when they start marking the 4-6 cly diesels for mid/full size vehicles the mpg will be astonishing to say the least
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:34 PM
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1/2 ton p/u with mid-hi 20 mpg would be very interesting for people like me that would like a p/u for occasional medium duty chores w/o the mpg penalty of the gas trucks.
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Old 10-12-2007, 06:37 PM
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All I can say is that IT'S ABOUT TIME. I've said for years I could turn GM around tomorrow by making 2 new cars--a retro Corvette (looks like a 63-67 but with modern 'vette running gear) and a Tahoe/Yukon with a small diesel/6 speed allison that gets 30(+) mpg, and they will sell more than they could ever make.
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I never have understood why Europe has had small diesels for years and we do not and/or why they have never caught on here.

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Old 10-13-2007, 05:58 AM
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The Europeans have a different philosophy about cars in general. You almost never see a pickup truck, and the vehicles themselves are generally smaller. If you've ever driven over there, the last thing you want to do is try to herd a land barge around some of their roads. Remember the scene in "Eurpoean Vacation" where Chevy Chase stuffs the Citroen in the narrow opening?

Fuel is pretty expensive over there, and diesel is available everywhere. Many Europeans are content to kinda putter along, but certainly not all. Some aggresively drive the snot out of their underpowered cars..I guess that's why they produce good race car drivers. Cars are also relatively expensive, and most people keep them for longer periods of time. We also tend to drive longer distances on a regular basis.

Until our driving habits change, we probably won't see a huge influx of efficient diesel passenger cars.
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oldmako - 10/12/2007 5:18 PM

VW is cranking out small diesels like mad in Europe. It's nuts that we don't have more small diesels available here. Bring em on!
Did I tell ya how much I love the wifey's 06 jetta TDI. Everything is perfect except the fuel guage. It's stuck on FULL!

Also, looked at AutoTrader the other day to see how my jetta was holding up on depreciation. They are selling at just under what I paid for mine new, and there was only one within 100 miles of my area. Try that with a chevy or ford. I'm done throwing my money away on big american vehicles that lose 20 to 30k in 30,000 miles.
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I would aggree with Bills comments.

Every summer we get several foreign college students(Bulgaria, Hungary)to help us run things around the marina and restaurant. They all make comments on how "big"our cars and trucks are here compared to back home.Gas is much more expensive overthere. We had a 69 Cadillac that we let them use for transportationduring the summer, and it was not long after it got parked and they rode bikes because of the7-9mpg thatCaddy got.[img]../images/emoticons/biggrin.gif[/img]Plus I got sick of them running out of gas all the time and dead batteries from cranking it over to much.

It would great to see a small diesel in the 12 ton truck size. That would give me a reason to go out and start looking at new vehicles with the wife. But then again, the fuel savings would have to be more then just a few mpg over gasto push me into a new one.
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mymojo - 10/12/2007 6:34 PM

1/2 ton p/u with mid-hi 20 mpg would be very interesting for people like me that would like a p/u for occasional medium duty chores w/o the mpg penalty of the gas trucks.
Here is my current mpg from my cummins 5.9L diesel truck (90% highway). The computer does read 0.3mpg on the high side over the hand calculation method.

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I saw a commercial for the Hummer H2 last night that was advertising a new powerplant. I wonder if it's a diesel.

Also, it looks like Mercedes Benz is putting a diesel option in all their vehicles. In fact, in the GL, the diesel is standard. If I could unpinch my sphincter, I'd love to trade my 14mpg Expedition for a 18/24 mpg GL.
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what are you doing to get that MPG? Even when I keep my foot out of it and do 65-70mph the best I get is 18.xx all highway. I would love to get better than 20.



I have a 2003 3500 turbo 4x4 with a hard shell tonneau cover.


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redneck joe - 10/13/2007 1:28 AM

I never have understood why Europe has had small diesels for years and we do not and/or why they have never caught on here.
Because our emissions standards never allowed it.
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redneck joe - 10/15/2007 9:10 AM

Major Woods -


what are you doing to get that MPG? Even when I keep my foot out of it and do 65-70mph the best I get is 18.xx all highway. I would love to get better than 20.



I have a 2003 3500 turbo 4x4 with a hard shell tonneau cover.

He was coasting down hill doing 70 with it in neutral.
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redneck joe - 10/15/2007 9:10 AM

Major Woods -
what are you doing to get that MPG? Even when I keep my foot out of it and do 65-70mph the best I get is 18.xx all highway. I would love to get better than 20.
I have a 2003 3500 turbo 4x4 with a hard shell tonneau cover.
I have a 2007 Ram 3500, 4x4, double cab, 6 speed, short bed, Airaid cold air kit, MBRP exhaust, Mobile 1 oil.
Cruise control at 66mph and I get that reading all day long, running thru the city brings the mpg down quick, or over 70mph.

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Major Woods -


what are you doing to get that MPG? Even when I keep my foot out of it and do 65-70mph the best I get is 18.xx all highway. I would love to get better than 20.



I have a 2003 3500 turbo 4x4 with a hard shell tonneau cover.

He was coasting down hill doing 70 with it in neutral.
I hear that all the time , and don't blame you for putting that response up. Even the guys at work with the same motor (auto tranny) only get a high of 20-22mpg. Maybe the manual or the add ons help. My first fuel fill up and hand caluclated mpg was an even 20.0mpg stock motor with 600 miles on the odometer.
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mymojo - 10/12/2007 6:34 PM

1/2 ton p/u with mid-hi 20 mpg would be very interesting for people like me that would like a p/u for occasional medium duty chores w/o the mpg penalty of the gas trucks.
Here is my current mpg from my cummins 5.9L diesel truck (90% highway). The computer does read 0.3mpg on the high side over the hand calculation method.


Man that's awesome!!


I've got an 07 5.9 and the best I have gotten the overhead to read is 20mpg. That's running about 70 mph.




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I will bet the price of diesel goes up even more after all the new diesels come on the market, But I can really say I would like one. Nothing but good experiences with diesels.
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