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Old 10-04-2007, 11:11 AM
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I just wired my new room for a wall mount. I wanna get one today or tomorrow to see the MLB playoffs and world series. I did read the last few threads. I hate to shop. I will probably buy at Walmart, Circuit City or Sears. (Unless Amazon is lots cheaper).

I am looking for 42 (mostly) to 47 in. sets. The Walmart ones seem to be 780p. The others are 1080p. What is the difference between the p and i. Should I care? I am also seeing brightness specs for some and not others and contrast ratio which seems to vary greatly.

The average seating distance is gonna be 12 feet away. The site is down now but so far the ones under $2,000 and closer to $1,000 are Toshiba (most $) , Visio (least $$) and Magnavox and Samsung and maybe Sanyo. If anyone is an expert I can send the links or model numbers.

What are the most important specs to look for? They all looked good to me in terms of picture - especially one of the S brands . Any other advice?

Thanks for the help!!!

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After much research I just bought a Sharp 46' 1080p Aquos for $1400 @ Brands Mart USA. TV is freaking awesome and the best picture and best bang for the buck I could find!
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12 feet away and under 2'... Get a 55" plus DLP (Samsungs are good)

I am taking back my 46" LCD this weekend.
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Right now the only source for 1080p is Blue Ray or HD CD's. Nobody is broadcasting 1080p. Having said that, I got a Vizio 1080i [extreme low end] and a Sony 1080p [extreme high end] and quite honestly, I really have a hard time telling them apart. The Sony might last longer and has a few more features but for just watching TV, I think the Vizio is fine. I'm going to get one more for my office and I'll probably just get a Vizio and save 1/2. Good luck with your selection.
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Old 10-04-2007, 01:33 PM
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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
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B-Faithful - 10/4/2007 12:24 PM

12 feet away and under 2'... Get a 55" plus DLP (Samsungs are good)

I am taking back my 46" LCD this weekend.
Thanks to all. Problem is I am limited to a cornor of this room that is basically 53 inches from stove stoneface to wall - the set width cant be over 48 or so

- see photo - still welcome all additional comments...

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Old 10-04-2007, 01:51 PM
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i have been wrestling with my tv purchase for a few months now. i'm no expert but i'll share my process and likely decision.

decided on lcd for two main reasons, lots of light in the room and no screen burn. looked at sony bravia, toshiba regza, samsung, pioneer, panasonic, hp, lg, and phillips. read review after review and you get a lot of "best tv ever" which i account to the buyer reinforcing their purchase in their mind... as you see here most owners think their brand of boat is the best, and why not?!

i believe i have settled on a Phillips 47" 1080p with Ambilight 2. this tv at best buy is currently on sale at $1899 and with coupon/best buy reward zone take an additional 10-12% off. all reviews are great and make comparisons to other sets and formats, and i think the ambilight will be great for watching movies at night. 3hdmi inputs, the only catch is no pc input.

just my .02, feel free to comment as long as it is your direct experience and not what a friend of a friend told you.
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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
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i have been wrestling with my tv purchase for a few months now. i'm no expert but i'll share my process and likely decision.

decided on lcd for two main reasons, lots of light in the room and no screen burn. looked at sony bravia, toshiba regza, samsung, pioneer, panasonic, hp, lg, and phillips. read review after review and you get a lot of "best tv ever" which i account to the buyer reinforcing their purchase in their mind... as you see here most owners think their brand of boat is the best, and why not?!

i believe i have settled on a Phillips 47" 1080p with Ambilight 2. this tv at best buy is currently on sale at $1899 and with coupon/best buy reward zone take an additional 10-12% off. all reviews are great and make comparisons to other sets and formats, and i think the ambilight will be great for watching movies at night. 3hdmi inputs, the only catch is no pc input.

just my .02, feel free to comment as long as it is your direct experience and not what a friend of a friend told you.
The PC input is over rated, I have a Toshiba with one and you are better off using the HDMI input for your PC (DVI to HDMI converter cable). The PC input is limited to a much lower resolution then 1920x1080 and maxes out at only 30 frames per second. I hook my laptop up to the HDMI and it is really nice.
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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
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Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 1:33 PM

There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
I will have to agree to disagree on that one, I have seen the same football game in 1080 and 720 and from what I can see the 1080 blows 720 away.
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I'm real happy with my Samsung 40" LCD. The picture is astounding. I also have a Vizio 32" for the bedroom. The picture is not as good as the Samsung, but I also don't have the Vizio connected via HDMI and for the rock bottom price of the Vizio, it's hard to argue. My favorite site when researching all of this was cnet.com
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GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 2:37 PM

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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
I will have to agree to disagree on that one, I have seen the same football game in 1080 and 720 and from what I can see the 1080 blows 720 away.
You were probably watching a 720p broadcast then. It wasn't a 1080p broadcast.
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Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 2:40 PM

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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
I will have to agree to disagree on that one, I have seen the same football game in 1080 and 720 and from what I can see the 1080 blows 720 away.
You were probably watching a 720p broadcast then. It wasn't a 1080p broadcast.
You are probably right about that, however my TV supports 720p and 1080p. My friends TV is 720p and it didn't look nearly as good.
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LI Sound Grunt - 10/4/2007 11:11 AM

What is the difference between the p and i. Should I care?
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I am in a similar situation, been in the market for about the last 6 months. There is so much information out there it is hard to sift through it all and make a good decision. I have spent a good deal of time just trying to understand the formats and what all the numbers mean.

1080i to 1080p is a pretty big difference - escpecially in cost. For me though, the important factor is that the best resolution you can get today in a broadcast is 1080i. True 1080p content is limited, pretty much limited to Blu-Ray and HD DVDs. If you are planning on buying one of those new players, and buying new disks, then the 1080p TV makes sense. If, however, you are planning on watching football, and other HD broadcasts, then those are limited to 1080i and won't take full advantage of the more expensive 1080p TV - so stick with one that handles 1080i and you'll save some cash.
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GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 2:48 PM

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There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
I will have to agree to disagree on that one, I have seen the same football game in 1080 and 720 and from what I can see the 1080 blows 720 away.
You were probably watching a 720p broadcast then. It wasn't a 1080p broadcast.
You are probably right about that, however my TV supports 720p and 1080p. My friends TV is 720p and it didn't look nearly as good.
Was it the exact same model tv as yours except for the resolution? There are a lot of factors that going into making a good sharp picture and resolution is only one of them, and not the most important.

If its a 720p broadcast there are only 720 lines to work with regardless of the resolution of your set.
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LI Sound Grunt - 10/4/2007 1:36 PM

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12 feet away and under 2'... Get a 55" plus DLP (Samsungs are good)

I am taking back my 46" LCD this weekend.
Thanks to all. Problem is I am limited to a cornor of this room that is basically 53 inches from stove stoneface to wall - the set width cant be over 48 or so

- see photo - still welcome all additional comments...

Have you considered a plasma flat panel monitor on an articulated arm wall bracket?

A 50" or maybe a 58" panel would fit like that and look very nice. See:
http://www.visualapex.com/ProductSup...H-58PH10UK.pdf
http://www.visualapex.com/plasma/Pla...er=TH-58PH10UK

I use a Peerless PLA-60 articulating mount similar to this with a 50" Panasonic. Works great.

http://www.visualapex.com/accessorie...0&MFR=Peerless
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I wondered how long it would be before someone recommended a plasma..

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Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 7:46 PM

GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 2:48 PM

Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 2:40 PM

GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 2:37 PM

Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 2:30 PM

GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 2:06 PM

Seacat FL - 10/4/2007 1:33 PM

There are some great deals in 720p plasma's and you won't give up much if anything if you watch broadcast, cable or satellite TV as there is no 1080p available from them now. ABC, ESPN, and Fox broadcast exclusively in 720p.

For sports 720p is better than 1080i since you get 60 full frames per sec instead 30. Under 50" 1080p isn't going to matter much anyway.
1080 is a huge difference over 720. 720 has 1/2 the resolution and you will see it big time.
What are you going to watch that is 1080p?

And a 720p broadcast is still better than a 1080i broadcast for sports. 1080p would be good too but there are no 1080p broadcasts and won't be for years to come.
I will have to agree to disagree on that one, I have seen the same football game in 1080 and 720 and from what I can see the 1080 blows 720 away.
You were probably watching a 720p broadcast then. It wasn't a 1080p broadcast.
You are probably right about that, however my TV supports 720p and 1080p. My friends TV is 720p and it didn't look nearly as good.
Was it the exact same model tv as yours except for the resolution? There are a lot of factors that going into making a good sharp picture and resolution is only one of them, and not the most important.

If its a 720p broadcast there are only 720 lines to work with regardless of the resolution of your set.
I turned on a few games on espn today and they were all 1080i broadcasts. I think the issue was it was a 1080i and his TV was downscaling it to his TVs resolution. While I agree 1080p has the best picture, I do think that 1080i is better for movies then 720p.
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GravyBoat - 10/4/2007 10:49 PM
I turned on a few games on espn today and they were all 1080i broadcasts. I think the issue was it was a 1080i and his TV was downscaling it to his TVs resolution. While I agree 1080p has the best picture, I do think that 1080i is better for movies then 720p.
If it was on ESPN it was 720p. ESPN does not use 1080i/p.
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