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Old 10-01-2007, 06:07 PM
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Actually even though it lost out to the consumer arena, beta format continued on as the format of choice for ENG, electronic news gathering, cameras and playback equipment. Its a superior format as is still used today in Betamax form.

Standard DVD is 480p and with the new 1080p format the difference is noticeable mostly on 50" and above sets that need the extra resolution.
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Old 10-01-2007, 06:31 PM
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Actually even though it lost out to the consumer arena, beta format continued on as the format of choice for ENG, electronic news gathering, cameras and playback equipment. Its a superior format as is still used today in Betamax form.

As far as I am aware, all professional taped video is BetaMax format. If it isn't it is in the minority.
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Old 10-02-2007, 08:25 AM
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aln - 10/1/2007 6:07 PM

Actually even though it lost out to the consumer arena, beta format continued on as the format of choice for ENG, electronic news gathering, cameras and playback equipment. Its a superior format as is still used today in Betamax form.

Standard DVD is 480p and with the new 1080p format the difference is noticeable mostly on 50" and above sets that need the extra resolution.
And even that is quickly going away. Most newsrooms are making way to the Panasonic p2 format--tapeless.
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Old 10-02-2007, 03:39 PM
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Check out the headlines today regarding the standard DVD blank machines coming out at $2600 a pop. They offer substantial advantages over whats out there now.
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Old 10-21-2007, 07:16 AM
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I'm still confused.....I went back and bought the Toshiba HD DVD player, but now all I see is everything coming out in Blue Ray format!! I feel like I should have bought the BR player, as Blockbuster Video is renting movies ONLY in BR format NOT HD DVD??? and every new release seems to only be in BR format, so tell why I was convinced not to go with BR again??
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Old 10-21-2007, 05:47 PM
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Buy a Playstation 3 and get the Blu Ray player as a bonus.

The gaming is great and so is the picture quality of the Blu Ray.

On thing that Sony has over HD-DVD is the fact that they own a few movie houses and an incredible movie catalog.

Here is the list of companies that support the formats:

"Blu-Ray technology was developed in February 2002 to be DVDís successor by a consortium made by companies that include Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson. HD-DVD, on the other hand, was created by Toshiba and recently got support from Microsoft, HP and Intel."

Blu Ray has more capacity than HD-DVD, 54GB for a double layed disk, HD-DVD can only hold 30gb.

I have the Playstation 3 and really like it.



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Old 10-21-2007, 06:06 PM
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Thanks for the info....so when will I start seeing more of what I need to rent or buy as a movie buff??....PS3 for me is out bc this is for a home theater system with a 63 plasma, and I would like something more permanent so to speak . And BR wont work in my HD player correct?
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Old 10-21-2007, 06:10 PM
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also I don't play PS.....

I'm thinking about returning the Toshiba HD player and buying the BR system....at least with BR I can rent BR movies every week, HD offers me nothing....
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Old 10-22-2007, 03:59 AM
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Buy a Playstation 3 and get the Blu Ray player as a bonus.
Yep, that's what I did. Worst case scenarion is I'm left with a good gaming platform.
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:45 AM
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"Blu-Ray technology was developed in February 2002 to be DVDís successor by a consortium made by companies that include Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson. HD-DVD, on the other hand, was created by Toshiba and recently got support from Microsoft, HP and Intel."

That consortium did NOT define Blu Ray. Sony did. What the consotium did was define Hi Def stds to be used by whatever format is adopted, including Toshiba's Hi Def. As I mentioned above, Blu Ray has been available for industrial applications for years prior to entering into the entertainment market.




Blu Ray has more capacity than HD-DVD, 54GB for a double layed disk, HD-DVD can only hold 30gb.
No. Blu Ray is maxed at about 50gb per disc. HD DVD is around 80gb per disc. And for anyone that is considering backing up their HD onto either Blu Ray or HD DVD, sit down before looking up the price of a double sided disc.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:13 AM
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So if BR is more readily avail. and is more popular then why am I being talked out of getting it, and buying HD DVD??? with the up converter....still confused.
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:22 AM
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Eyeball - 10/22/2007 5:45 AM No. Blu Ray is maxed at about 50gb per disc. HD DVD is around 80gb per disc. And for anyone that is considering backing up their HD onto either Blu Ray or HD DVD, sit down before looking up the price of a double sided disc.
LoL...where did you hear that one?

HD DVD= 15gb single layer/ 30gb dual layer. Wikipedia HD DVD page

BluRay =25gb Single layer/50gb Dual layer. Wikipedia BluRay



Now they are working on a quad layer100gb for BluRAy while the HD DVD is working on a Triple layer format with 45gb.

HD doesn't even come c;ose.

We the consumers lost out in the VHS/Beta due to ignorance and marketing. I hope it doesnt happen again and we get stuck with an inferior product like the HD DVD.



Once you go 1080p...you can't go back. I might have to sell my old 61" DLP because it only has up to 1080i and it makes a big difference with my PS3 and Bluray movies. I had to move my PS3 to my bedroom so I could watch BluRay on the 41" LCD with 1080p.
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wow now Im really confused lol.....Just tell me which one will be better for future technology etc....seems to me, BR is going to dominate the market with more movies and a better product!

...guess im returning my Toshiba HD DVD player and buying the BR, unless anyone can give me a good reason NOT to....
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Old 10-22-2007, 11:36 AM
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I have the PS3. I love it, I watch all new movies in BluRay from Netflix and Blockbusters.

Witht he prices down for the PS3, I'd get that. But I'm a gamer at heart and I'm looking to get the Xbox360 too so my PS3 opion is a bit biased.



Oh and another good thing about the PS3 is that it can connect to WiFI or a LAN cable to download any and all upgrade software from Sony. It keeps the machine in top form. Oh and you can get free games too.
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:06 PM
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yeah I have no need for the PS, I dont game.....
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Old 10-22-2007, 12:59 PM
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Victory 1 - 10/22/2007 12:06 PM yeah I have no need for the PS, I dont game.....
Then you are beyond help.

Samsung's BD-P1200 for around $500 is good player.

But, ohlook, a Sony PS3 with 60gis around $500...sorry had to throw that in there.
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Old 10-22-2007, 04:05 PM
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Victory 1 - 10/22/2007 12:06 PM yeah I have no need for the PS, I dont game.....
Then you are beyond help.

Samsung's BD-P1200 for around $500 is good player.

But, oh look, a Sony PS3 with 60g is around $500...sorry had to throw that in there.
Yeah I see your logic but, like I said I have no use for it (Maybe because im not 12?) .....I just took back the HD DVD system and bought the BR BDP S500. Top of the line from what Ive read and have seen. So far it looks GREAT. Costs $699.

Its all about the movies for me man Maybe I should start smok'n weed again?....or maybe Im just gettin old!
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Old 10-22-2007, 05:34 PM
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Eyeball - 10/22/2007 8:45 AM

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"Blu-Ray technology was developed in February 2002 to be DVDís successor by a consortium made by companies that include Apple, Dell, Hitachi, HP, JVC, LG, Mitsubishi, Panasonic, Pioneer, Philips, Samsung, Sharp, Sony, TDK and Thomson. HD-DVD, on the other hand, was created by Toshiba and recently got support from Microsoft, HP and Intel."

That consortium did NOT define Blu Ray. Sony did. What the consotium did was define Hi Def stds to be used by whatever format is adopted, including Toshiba's Hi Def. As I mentioned above, Blu Ray has been available for industrial applications for years prior to entering into the entertainment market.




Blu Ray has more capacity than HD-DVD, 54GB for a double layed disk, HD-DVD can only hold 30gb.
No. Blu Ray is maxed at about 50gb per disc. HD DVD is around 80gb per disc. And for anyone that is considering backing up their HD onto either Blu Ray or HD DVD, sit down before looking up the price of a double sided disc.
Not sure where you get your information but you should double check your facts.
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Old 10-23-2007, 05:30 AM
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ESSRTEE8 - 10/23/2007 9:34 AM

Eyeball - 10/22/2007 8:45 AM

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Not sure where you get your information ...
Dude, you have no idea...

Btw, I would not invest an any BR hardware until the sh!t settles. Y'all know some 15 year old kid hacked the BR DRM scheme, right?!? And Sony is sh!tting her pants trying to cover, approving the release of updated product BEFORE it is fully tested...and yes, it is faulty, at best. It is failing. Right now BR has a a lot of DRM problems, and DRM is at the heart of what all of this hi def stuff is all about.

DRM = digital rights management...think of it as a copy protection scheme that is a combination of hardware and software.

Sit tight, enjoy whatever HD you have, BR will likely pop out on top when all is said and done. But in the meantime, HD DVD is king and looks to retain that spot until Sony get her act together.

And fwiw, it is Hitachi, NOT SONY, that is pushing the envelope on BR technology...hit 100gb per disc in the lab. For those unawares, Hitachi is a huge corp, bigger than most folks realize. That also means potential compatibility problems between BR hardward. As it stands today, you (the consumer) have access to 50gb of BR technology per disc, and 51gb of HD DVD per disc. Any suggestion otherwise is just fine folks talking out of their ass. Note that I said "what you have access to...", because it matters.




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Old 11-05-2007, 09:58 AM
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Ive had the BluRay video for like 2 weeks now and have to say its unreal....great product and IMHO blows HD away. Plus you can rent BR at Blkbster just an added plus.
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