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Old 07-16-2007, 10:33 PM
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Last weekend my friends and I were eating at a casual seafood resturant in the Keys that we have eaten at many times . This place over looks a small charterboat marina and the Atlantic Ocean. The resturant had a new menu featuring fish tacos. When we asked what kind of fish was in the tacos, the waitress replied Basa, which she said was a Mexican Grouper. She added that it tastes great. We'll there is no Mexican Grouper called Basa that I know of. But there is a Basa which is Asian Catfish. We told her that we did not want want any Basa and asked if she could replace that with Mahi, which she did at no extra cost.

The waitress was accomodating and the food tasted great, yet I was bothered by whole situation. Why would a place in the Keys feel it necessary to put Basa on the menu? I would gladly pay more for fresh Mahi than frozen catfish from Vietnam. I would expect to see that option on a menu at a Denny's in Ohio, not a seafood place in the Keys. I will probably never eat there again.
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Old 07-16-2007, 10:39 PM
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Because Basa is a trendy fish for trendy people. Just say it. Basa. Kind of rolls off your tongue. In SE Asia they probably call it crap fish.
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Old 07-17-2007, 06:20 PM
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787337, Where was the restaurant? What key?
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:23 PM
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Wahoo's at Whale Harbor Marina in Islamorada. I don't wish them any ill will. I have alway enjoyed the view,food, and service. Just disapointed that they are serving frozen fish out of a box.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:50 PM
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Last time I was in Key Largo I ordered crab-stuffed mushrooms. Well this reataurant considered crab to be the fake sh!t with the red edge. ..at a "seafood" restaurant recommended by a local. I was pissed.

I think these situations are indicative of sticking it to mostly tourists that won't be repeat customers and a way to save $$ in the long run.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:52 PM
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That is a surprise, I have been there and thought it was pretty good. I never heard of Basa, but I dont want it.
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Old 07-17-2007, 08:58 PM
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My favs: Something special with the little woman = Lazy Days. My favorite is Sushi Nami in Key Largo fresh Wahoo. Chilli Willys for everything else. Can't go wrong.
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Old 07-17-2007, 10:01 PM
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I was at Sushi Nami about a month ago, and man was I dissappointed. Nothing was fresh, and everything tasted old. And on top of it all, it was crazy expensive.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:46 AM
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We chartered a blow boat in the BVI several years ago. Everyone on board was excited about the fresh seafood. We finished dinner and started our walk back to the dingy dock which took us past the side of the restaurant and the garbage area. On top of the dumpster was a box that read "Shrimp- Product of Thailand".

Restaurants buy imported seafood because it is cheaper and most people either don't care or don't know. It is hard to fathom how someone can catch fish on the other side of the world, pack and ship it to the US and it still be cheaper.
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Old 07-18-2007, 08:47 AM
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One word: Cisco.

Its not the restaurants fault. You'll see the Cisco truck at Luies back yard in KW and Bentleys in KL and even Mareks and the Snook Inn in Marco. There is no escape.

All restaurants in Fl. from .5 to 5 star all buy from Cisco. They supply all the basics.

I got news for you as well. You have eaten Basa, allot of it. It has been called Grouper on every menu in Fl for over a decade before somebody got ratted out. Of course the restaurants said "We ordered grouper and that's what it said on the box" and all down the line with Cisco blaming the wholesaler and them blaming the importer and him blaming his supplier etc. add nauseam.

The consumer has been trained. Basa has little flavor. When the typical bar and grill restaurant started using real grouper, people complained and liked the other stuff better. Go figure.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:05 AM
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Basa is a Vietnamese catfish. It's cheap and easy to get and most people won't know the difference.
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Old 07-18-2007, 09:20 AM
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More than likely if you've ordered some variety of fish smuthered in some a "creme sauce" it's likely either Basa or African Catfish. And they pass it off as something else because once it's smuthered in that "creme sauce" there almost no way of knowing what it once was. And with the tasteless flavor of those boring fish the creme sauce makes you think you're getting something good.

I order fish grilled or baked. No sauces. I want to see the fillet and know what it is. I wanna taste the fishy goodness that is fish.

My in-laws are total suckers for this. They buy that kinda crap all the time.

I got suckered once a long time ago when I asked..."What the hell is Chillean Seabass?" I tryed it. Smuthered in a "creme sauce" it was still one of the most boring fish ever.
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Old 07-18-2007, 02:33 PM
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I was just in Belize, wher you'd think they had ample suply of fresh fish, ordered local snapper (as described on the menu) got tilapia, when I complained, the waiter, bus boy and the mgr tried to convince me otherwise. I asked to see the fish at the kitchen, all of a sudden in this small rest. they started quoating the health regs and no access policy due to insurance. Just gave them the tilapia back and left. The other Americans at a near table were surprised and said their "snapper" tasted great, I quickly pointed out to the that they were eating tilapia their response "what's the difference? it's a fish" go figure
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Old 07-18-2007, 03:53 PM
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baitkiller - 7/18/2007 8:47 AM

One word: Cisco.

Its not the restaurants fault. You'll see the Cisco truck at Luies back yard in KW and Bentleys in KL and even Mareks and the Snook Inn in Marco. There is no escape.

All restaurants in Fl. from .5 to 5 star all buy from Cisco. They supply all the basics.
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SYSCO -- Not Cisco -- is one of your first mistakes. Secondly, you see SYSCO trucks everywhere because they are the largest food services distributor in North America.

But more importantly, SYSCO can deliver grouper caught fresh the day before or frozen catfish from thailand -- it is the restaurant that decides what to purchase from the food service provider. SYSCO and other distributors aren't trying to fool you -- the restaurant is. Get your facts straight.
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