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Old 06-11-2007, 01:26 PM
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I thought it sucked. The end was a giant middle finger to everyone who watched for the last 8 years.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:13 PM
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I thought it sucked. The end was a giant middle finger to everyone who watched for the last 8 years.
Right, because the producers know that most people (maybe not you, but most) would watch again no matter how bad they made the ending. Why should they put forth the effort and money to make something of quality when they don't have to? I'll stick with my plan.....just stop watching everything.
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Old 06-11-2007, 02:55 PM
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hey pug...why is it that you ignore the tv show, but you cant seem to break yourself away from a thread discussing that selfsame tv show?
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Old 06-11-2007, 03:10 PM
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cgrand - 6/11/2007 2:55 PM

hey pug...why is it that you ignore the tv show, but you cant seem to break yourself away from a thread discussing that selfsame tv show?
wasted alot of time watching that stupid show too, huh cgrand?
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on the contrary...i enjoyed it very much and consider it time well spent
loved the ending
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:07 PM
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I thought it sucked. The end was a giant middle finger to everyone who watched for the last 8 years.
Right, because the producers know that most people (maybe not you, but most) would watch again no matter how bad they made the ending. Why should they put forth the effort and money to make something of quality when they don't have to? I'll stick with my plan.....just stop watching everything.
You are absolutely right. I was ready to bail when the production was held up for 18 months or something like that a few years ago, but I was hooked. What kept me going was that as a locally (NJ) produced show, it's kind of cool to see familiar places. And I did like the show, just the final episode sucked.
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Old 06-11-2007, 05:22 PM
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If you really payed attention when they were at dinner you could of drawn your own conclusion as to what happen to Tony thats why David Chase did what he did the true die hard Sopranos fan would of know . The guy at the bar is also credited as Nikki Leotardo. The same actor played him in the first part of season 6 during a brief sit down concerning the future of Vito. That wasn't that long ago. Apparently, he is the nephew of Phil. Phil's brother Nikki Senior was killed in 1976 in a car accident. Absolutely Genius!!!! David Chase is truly rewarding the true fans who pay attention to detail.

So the point would have been that life continues and we may never know the end of the Sopranos. But if you pay attention to the history, you will find that all the answers lie in the characters in the restaurant. The trucker was the brother of the guy who was robbed by Christopher in Season 2. Remember the DVD players? The trucker had to identify the body. The boy scouts were in the train store and the black guys at the end were the ones who tried to kill Tony and only clipped him in the ear (was that season 2 or 3?). Absolutely incredible!!!! There were three people in the restaurant who had reason to kill Tony and then it just ends

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Old 06-11-2007, 05:58 PM
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"you could of drawn your own conclusion as to what happen to Tony thats why David Chase did what he did the true die hard Sopranos fan would of know "

Okay, makes sense if you are correct on the characters... They all got more camera time than they would if insignificant characters otherwise.
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:06 PM
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strikerthree nice copy & paste...
since you posted it as it was your own, though, please provide a link or source for "nikki leotardo"...a quck google search reveals that the actor who played the guy at the bar is a pizzeria owner in NJ

a better explanation is far simpler; ie: which came out of the opened door—the lady, or the tiger?
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Old 06-11-2007, 06:54 PM
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that ending stunk!!!
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Old 06-11-2007, 09:33 PM
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cgrand - 6/11/2007 6:06 PM

strikerthree nice copy & paste...
since you posted it as it was your own, though, please provide a link or source for "nikki leotardo"...a quck google search reveals that the actor who played the guy at the bar is a pizzeria owner in NJ

a better explanation is far simpler; ie: which came out of the opened door—the lady, or the tiger?
Ok well this is my own can you understand it now??

ok listen guys...u gotta watch the end of the episode again and watch
closely...here is what you'll c...when tony walks into the diner he looks at
himself sitting down at the table...u can be sure of this b/c he is
wearing
different clothes when he sits down...i dont no wtf that means...in
previous

seasons it had been told to us that tony's dad died just as his daughter

(janus) walked in...if u watch closely u will see janus walk in shortly
after

tony sits down...this is used to signify the possibility of that
happening
again...then u will c the sports store owner who tony destroyed walk in
wearing a brown kinda hunting jacket...he is the guy that a couple
seasons
ago got into gambling trouble with tony and tony took over his
store...HE IS

THE 1 WHO WACKS TONY...he comes in and sits down hunched over...hiding
his
eyes as not wanting to be noticed...and alas..."u probly dont even here
it
when it happens rite?" (this is bobby talking to tony in the 1st episode
of
the season...tony had this flashback as he was laying down in the last
episode...there would be no reason to have had that in unless it had
some
huge significance)...and finally...tonys daughter walking in to c her
dad
get shot just as janus did so many years ago...u hear the bell of her
walking in and then blackness...nuthing...it signifies the neverending
cycle

of the soprano family...aj will become tony...meadow will become
janus...carmela will become livia (tonys mom)...and cycle of violence
goes
on and on and on....absolutlely amazing...i HATED the ending at
first...but
when i wached it again...and understood it...it is really the most
amazing
ending possible for the show...we really would not have been satisfied
with
the boring u c tony get shot ending...this was
priceless...remember..this
was not an action show...it was a drama about a FAMILY....



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Old 06-11-2007, 10:35 PM
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Ok, I can understand when someone explains it all out but seriously, they expect too much or think too highly of themselves or their fans. They stretch this out so long and tediously this season with such disconnected superflous BS and we're supposed to get all giddy at an attempt at a Pulp Fiction restaraunt scene? I know, I'm an ADD ridden monkey but I shouldn't have to work so freakin' hard to be entertained. Keeerap, it's a tv show. You'd have to have had to watch the previous shows on DVD five times over to have packed all that junk into your noggin'.

I like great story tellers. I like a beginning, a middle, and an ending. Any ending. Suprise endings that get you ( The Sixth Sense for example )

How about this: I cancel HBO and imagine their programming. Now that's real genius! I have HBO HD and nine tenths of their HD schedule is taken up with bad programming and now they do this lame finale.

Heck, at least they could've given us some flashback scenes to Meadow working her way through college at the Bada Bing!!!
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Old 06-12-2007, 01:00 AM
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anyone know the name of the real diner? i wanna get some of them onion rings!
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Old 06-12-2007, 02:59 AM
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back to the ending....Did anyone notice the jacket piled up next to T in the diner...then flash back to 2 different episodes where T kept a sawed off side by side 12 guage handy but never used it ....hmmmm a shady guy in a members only jacket dude gets up and goes to the head.......makes you wonder
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Old 06-12-2007, 07:46 AM
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signmansez - 6/12/2007 1:00 AM

anyone know the name of the real diner? i wanna get some of them onion rings!
Holsten's in Bloomfield, NJ
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Old 06-12-2007, 08:25 AM
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I recorded the episode in case I fell asleep, now I gotta go re-watch the last 5 minutes.
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:01 AM
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Afishinado - 6/12/2007 8:25 AM

I recorded the episode in case I fell asleep, now I gotta go re-watch the last 5 minutes.
I have already done that and I will say it again Chase really had it very intense in the last few minutes and you can never get that again since youknow the ending.

All of these theories make a lot of sense and the characters are just as strikethree is talking about, I will check it out agian tonight
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:21 AM
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Don't knock HBO -- that's the only group producing most things worth watching on TV. They could put a guy on a black screen reading the phone book and I'd at least give it a shot.

You may not agree or like all these but they were great in their own way:

Sopranos
Six Feet Under
Deadwood
Carnival
The Wire
Oz
(What am I missing)

Big Love is starting to get interesting. And John From Cinncinati looks like it is going to be very promising.
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Old 06-12-2007, 10:36 AM
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Rebecca De Mornay looks hot for a Grandma

Tension at the end was unbelievable-every time tony looked up when someone different came in.

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Old 06-12-2007, 11:18 AM
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I like to think of it as we, the viewers, got whacked. You never see it coming, don't hear or feel anything. One second you're there, a part of some mundane situation and the next- blackness. It leaves things as is- just the viewer will no longer be a part of it....
....that is, of course, unless you are willing to pay for a movie ticket in a few years to be brought back to life.
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