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Old 06-05-2007, 04:27 PM
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Ok i have a good looking garden going..everything is growing great,have gotten good picks of cucumbers,squash,peppers,peppers,and more peppers..my problem is that i have what i think to be is a tomatoe worm on 3 of 12 plants...i have tried 7 dust and a few other non brand chemicals but the worm is still eating away..... what do i do!!!!!!!!any help would be greatly appreciated...thanks Stephen
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Old 06-05-2007, 07:17 PM
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Keep dusting and look for and remove the fruit with the critters in them.

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Old 06-05-2007, 07:38 PM
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i actually find them on the bottom of the leafs...im seeing right now they just eating leaves..i just want to get em under control befor they eat the tomatoes......i think they have gotten 1 or 2 tomatoes.....and i did throw them away...
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i actually find them on the bottom of the leafs...im seeing right now they just eating leaves..i just want to get em under control befor they eat the tomatoes......i think they have gotten 1 or 2 tomatoes.....and i did throw them away...
Since you can see them then do what I've done in the past. Get your trusty pair of pliers out and pop their little horned heads. Yup...and leave their guts on the plants. I don't use chemicals in my garden...it's my only chance to have veggies without chemicals all over and through them.

Oh...and if they have a bunch of white eggs all over their bodies then leave those worms alone. Those are small wasp eggs (can't remember the name) which are feeding on the worm killing it slowly. You want those small wasps because they eat tomato worms. And when the eggs are on the worms the worms stop eating. Ain't nature great?


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i actually find them on the bottom of the leafs...im seeing right now they just eating leaves..i just want to get em under control befor they eat the tomatoes......i think they have gotten 1 or 2 tomatoes.....and i did throw them away...
Since you can see them then do what I've done in the past. Get your trusty pair of pliers out and pop their little horned heads. Yup...and leave their guts on the plants. I don't use chemicals in my garden...it's my only chance to have veggies without chemicals all over and through them.

Oh...and if they have a bunch of white eggs all over their bodies then leave those worms alone. Those are small wasp eggs (can't remember the name) which are feeding on the worm killing it slowly. You want those small wasps because they eat tomato worms. And when the eggs are on the worms the worms stop eating. Ain't nature great?

What he said. That is correct information.
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Old 06-06-2007, 01:58 AM
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I know dish soap and water in a squeeze bottle works like magic on a lot of garden pests, but I don't know how it works on little worms? It might be worth a try.............it's not quite like a chemical, but yes I know it is still one.

If the problem isn't wide spread yet, I'd pluck the leaves with worm holes throughout, that way you can easily monitor the progression of the pests.......if you've got fruit then you should be more then safe in plucking leaves.
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Old 06-06-2007, 08:26 AM
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Yup. Kill the worms. Head-pinching is perfect. You'll be AMAZED how big they will grow if you don't squash them now(no pun intended)
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Old 06-06-2007, 10:36 AM
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those green tomato worms will strip your plants clean if you let them
sometimes i swear you can hear them munching away
i picked my first tomato yesterday...already have waaaay too much eggplant, fennel and bell peppers
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Burn'em out!

Then get tomatoes from the old coona$$ next door.
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Old 06-06-2007, 02:43 PM
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Yep exactly what mole said. But tomatoes already gezz I cant wait you guys r lucky asparaguses and radishes all I got so far
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I hate those damn worms. I put my plants in pots this year hoping that by using fresh potting soil and having the pots on the patio I could avoid them. The only think I hate more than those worms is birds eating my tomatos as soon as they turn red. At least I can shoot the birds...

We've only gotten some squash and cucumbers so far. I would have tomatos by now but that stupid Easter cold front put the hurt on my plants and it took them a couple of weeks to recover from it.
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Old 06-07-2007, 11:44 PM
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A nifty little organic pesticide called BT, sold under many different brand names (active ingredient is "Bacillus theringensis" although I didn't spell it quite right) will take care of them. It is a spore that only effects caterpillars (although you can get BT for other specific pests). You dust the plant, bug eats plant with dust, bug dies of terminal constipation, no more bug.

The key to getting to caterpillars with chemicals is to get it under the leaves. The 'pillers hang out under the leaves for protection from preditors and rain, so putting the poison on the top won't do any good. You don't have to be too concerned about getting BT under the leaves, it doesn't take much to do it's job.
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If this guy is the culprit http://www.oznet.ksu.edu/dp_hfrr/ext...s/hornworm.htm and you don't have dozens of tomato plants, hand picking is the easiest way to control them, no chemicals needed.

And as mole2 said... "...and if they have a bunch of white eggs all over their bodies then leave those worms alone. Those are small wasp eggs (can't remember the name) which are feeding on the worm killing it slowly. You want those small wasps because they eat tomato worms. And when the eggs are on the worms the worms stop eating. Ain't nature great?
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