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Old 06-01-2007, 08:12 PM
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Not really boating related, but here goes.

We're looking to get an in-ground pool this summer. Nothing fancy, not looking for a landscape work-of-art. Just want a basic, rectangular in-ground pool with a diving board and a deep end.

We live in CT. Most new pools going in are gunnite, but I do see some vinyl, and some fiberglass. Any sharpies out there who can give me the long term and short term pros and cons?
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:29 PM
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Default RE: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

I put in a basic rectangular higher end vinyl in-ground pool last year. Couldn't justify the cost of gunnite (significantly more expensive). Pools usually don't add much value to the house, if any. Also, vinyl is easier on the body than gunnite and less sensitive to water chemistry.

If you go vinyl, look around at different pool companies. Some construction types look better than others. You can't tell our's is a vinyl lined pool until you get very close to it because it doesn't have the typical inch or two thick white or gray rim around the top and doesn't have seperate fiberglass steps into the pool.

We also had a semi-automatic integrated vinyl pool cover put in at the time of construction. See http://www.aquamatic.com/hydramatic.html for an example of the cover Expensive option but pays for itself in a few years time energy savings by keeping evaporation down, heat in and much crud out plus you get the added safety benefit. Pool water temp has been 80+ degrees since the middle of May. Heater (a heat pump) hasn't been on for at least 2 to 3 weeks and likely won't come back on until September. With the cover, we were able to keep the pool open until the beginning of October.

Add at least 50 percent to the estimate for the pool given by the pool company to cover landscaping, electrical, extra cement decking (they usually quote a minimal amount of decking), tree clearing, etc.
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:31 PM
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Default Re: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

How are you going to get your boat into it?
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:38 PM
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Default Re: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

A good friend had installed one of those insert pools a few years ago. They are big down South and are making their way up here. He's in NH. FG unit trucked in and set with a crane. Finished it looks great w/o the months of horse poo pool companies are known for.

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Old 06-01-2007, 09:46 PM
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Gunite is the way to go...althought i don't have much experience with the fiberglass I would never recommend a Vinyl in-ground they are actually very very sensitive to water chemistry especially chlorine levels and PH levels...Most of the vinyl inground pools installed around here are built with a steel frame and a vinyl liner...basicly the same as aboveground except thicker vinyl...expect to have to replace the vinyl after 3-5 years and the framing after 10-20 high clorine levels will bleach the cover and make the vinyl brittle high or low ph levels will cause the framing to rust..and god forbid you drop a screwdriver in the pool and put a hole in it

The Extra Expense of Marble dust/gunite is well worth it
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Old 06-01-2007, 09:48 PM
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Default Re: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

go vinyl. The worst thing that can happen is you need a liner, 1500 - 3000 dollars.

I heard from a few people that gunnite pools can crack due to the frost here in new england. They are also really expensive and not worth it for the 3 months of use.
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Old 06-01-2007, 10:40 PM
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Jamie M - 6/1/2007 8:12 PM

Not really boating related, but here goes.

We're looking to get an in-ground pool this summer. Nothing fancy, not looking for a landscape work-of-art. Just want a basic, rectangular in-ground pool with a diving board and a deep end.

We live in CT. Most new pools going in are gunnite, but I do see some vinyl, and some fiberglass. Any sharpies out there who can give me the long term and short term pros and cons?
I live in CT and my family had a pool built at our house. We went with vinyl and if we could do it again we would do gunnite. Many of our neighbors have (newer) pools and they are gunnite and look great. We have had many liner issues.
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We have run a swimming pool company here in Augusta, Ga. Get a Vinyl pool. No sense in spending that much more for a gunite and FG. Get a salt system for it!!! 90% of our pools have them and you don't have to worry about having the up and down chemical issues. PM me if you have questions
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Forgot to mention the salt system. Have it. Get it.
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:00 PM
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i have a inground pool we just put a new liner in vinyl the first one lasted over 20 years i live in ct never had a problem new vinyl looks gorgeous
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Old 06-01-2007, 11:06 PM
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It would be cheaper to buy another boat.



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I forgot to mention that we ran our pool chlorine free using a computer-controlled ionizer system from Ecosmarte.
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Old 06-02-2007, 07:40 AM
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my family has had a vinyl liner pool in CT for about 20 years now. the liner was replaced after 16 years. however it started to look old and beat up after about 12 years. there have been a few small leaks over the years from various problems, nothing major though. other problems were staining from shocking, and from hard well water. After working for a pool company for a few years, I would go with gunite I just think it is a better finish. not that there is anything wrong with VInyl. I would definatly go with a dark color vinyl/Gunite. the dark colors look much more natural, and hide small amounts of dirt/debris better then white/blue.
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Old 06-02-2007, 12:59 PM
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Default RE: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

Jeez, I thought i was confused before. Now, I get half the folks telling me that gunnite is the way to go, the other half say vinyl.

Clear as mud!

Thanks to all for the input!

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Old 06-02-2007, 06:16 PM
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Default Re: in-ground pool in New England - vinly, fiberglass, or gunnite?

Think about it this way...if its for the kids...they'll be out of the house in 5-10 years so get vinyl cheap and simple...if its something you want long term get a marble dust/gunite pool
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welder - 6/1/2007 11:06 PM

It would be cheaper to buy another boat.


A fiberglass pool is about the same as another boat. (Less engines of course). I looked at a 8x16 fiberglass that we could put right next to the patio. All I wanted was a cold tub. Even as small as it was, it would have been about $10K. Since I only wanted a cold tub, I asked what was the cheapest he had in an above ground. 15 footer = $700 including pump and filter. Install cost me two cases of beer. We decided that we will do the glass pool in a couple of years but at least I have my cold tub.
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