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Old 05-16-2007, 11:36 PM
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This is one tough airplane.

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No problem.
I could do that in my Piper Cub.
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Now if that was a Navy plane, I know the guy and crew they would call in to fix it.
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Salesman probably told them it's built like a Grady.

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Obviously a "Top Tier" airplane.
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I would have never thought it would be aerodynamically possible for that plane to fly one one wing, much less be able to have been taken out of a dive like that.

Say what you will about the plane, but the pilot deserves the glory in that one. That dude was some kind of serious about salvaging that plane as his chances for survival would have been much greater to eject as opposed to attempting what he did.

I think he pretty much said the same thing after realizing the extent of damage.

Unreal.
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Must have been one heck of a ride
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The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
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Garett - 5/17/2007 1:42 PM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
Did you watch that video and listen to the audio?

No offense, but no way is a computer is going to save a plane in that situation. That was ALL pilot.

Anybody remember that commercial airliner deal where the pilot flew the plane in a mannor nobody could duplicate on a simulator? No doubt they don't have the level of computer sophistication of a military plane, but it still takes a pilot to do more than keep 'em straight and level.
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Whatever..........you LOSSER!

And next time you want to address something I've said, you make dam_ sure you are addressing the very point I am making and not one that you made up just so you can hear yourself talk!!!! What a looser you are!
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Garett - 5/17/2007 3:39 PM

Whatever..........you LOSSER!

And next time you want to address something I've said, you make dam_ sure you are addressing the very point I am making and not one that you made up just so you can hear yourself talk!!!! What a looser you are!
Rut row, spill in isle 5.

Learn how to spell there SithBoy, it makes insults more meaningful.

WTF are you talking about? You made the statement that the pilot didn't know his wing was gone because a computer was flying the plane.

Which one of us missed something here?

Are you like 12 or something?

What's the average life expectancy of a Sith in Canadia? Maybe I'll just wait you out.

Get over yourself will ya?
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Garett - 5/17/2007 3:39 AM

Whatever..........you LOSSER!
What a looser you are!
What........did you think I was going to come right out and call you a LOSER? But I see you got the message!

Where you bug the crap out of me is when you try convincing everyone about something you obviously know nothing about and you do it with great conviction! To do it once is a mistake, to do it twice makes you a fool, but you're working on a hundred times......that makes you a LOOOOOSSSSSSER in my books!

TN FREEBIRD - 5/17/2007 2:16 AM

No offense, but no way is a computer is going to save a plane in that situation. That was ALL pilot.
What was “ALL pilot” was kicking in the after burners to pull the crippled jet out of the death spin..........your words make zero reference to the plane being flown back to base! My comments were based off of the plane being flown back to base.........

Garett - 5/17/2007 1:42 AM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
The pilot was able to fly the jet back to the base without knowing the extent of damage Only because of the sophisticated computers on board doing their job!!! With today’s radical jet designs computers are the only thing which makes these birds terrors of the sky...........why do you think some of these birds have their flight computers backed up twice over?

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Which one of us missed something here?

Are you like 12 or something?

What's the average life expectancy of a Sith in Canadia? Maybe I'll just wait you out.
I think it’s pretty obvious who’s 12 here......you’re such a LOSER you don’t even recognize you’re tiding up the BIG LOSER suit you are wearing!
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LOL Loser suit?

I'm not the grown man still wearing a Sith costume my Mommy bought me for Halloween when Star Wars came out. I hated that movie, even on TV where I tried to watch it and got bored. I can't believe they actually made more of those stupid movies, but I guess some folks are easily entertained.

Thanks for setting the bar for being childish, I doubt I can ever match you in the department, so I'll concede that title to you.

Maybe you should consider contacting that pilot and explaining to him how his plane's computer flew him back to his base on one wing. I'll bet he just typed in www.savemyass.com and that computer just took over and flew him back on autopilot. Maybe he just called you for advice. All those stick movements and timing the afterburner kick in were just the computer doing its job. Probably saved a lot of fuel with less drag from only one wing.

Gee, I wish I had paid attention to airplanes and stuff when my Dad spent 20 years in the Air Force. Both my brothers are in the jet airplane business as well. I'm just a dumb ole' safe salesman who stayed in a Holiday Inn last night. My buddy has a couple of Gulfstreams in his charter business, maybe I could ask him about computers and pilots and stuff.

What can we talk about next?

Oh yeah, do Siths wear panties?
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Garett - 5/17/2007 2:42 PM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
Garett-

Fly by wire doesn't mean no "stick & rudder". That FMS system, if he had one, would have disengaged and not possible to engage at the get go.

That was manual skill.

By the way, it is common not to be able to see your wings on high swept winged jets.
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Garett - 5/17/2007 2:42 PM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
Garett-

Fly by wire doesn't mean no "stick & rudder". That FMS system, if he had one, would have disengaged and not possible to engage at the get go.

That was manual skill.

By the way, it is common not to be able to see your wings on high swept winged jets.
Thanks for putting this thread back on track and acknowleging the skill of that pilot as what saved the plane and possibly his life and that of his navigator.

Some things just can't be programmed into a computer. Otherwise, there would be no need for a pilot.

Garett, I'm finished with the silliness if you are.
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I wonder if pilots have the same kind of big plane/ little plane arguments that boaters do?
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Captain Sid - 5/18/2007 2:14 PM

I wonder if pilots have the same kind of big plane/ little plane arguments that boaters do?
Actually, there is the case for jet or propwash!

"You sorry !@#$%&*, look what you did to my little airplane!!!"

"You ignorant *&%$#@!, you should keep that little plane out of the way!!!"

Hey, if you can't fly with the big 'Bird... it ain't my fault!

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Garett - 5/17/2007 2:42 PM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
Garett-

Fly by wire doesn't mean no "stick & rudder". That FMS system, if he had one, would have disengaged and not possible to engage at the get go.

That was manual skill.

By the way, it is common not to be able to see your wings on high swept winged jets.
Now I could be wrong, but I don't believe that an F-15 is fly-by-wire. I thought the F-16 was the first production fighter with fly-by-wire flight controls. However, all the current fighters have stability augmentation, basically computer-assist to keep the aircraft in control. Modern jet fighters are so inherently unstable that the computer assist is needed, because human reactions could never keep up.

So yeah, great job by the pilot, but I doubt he could have landed it without the computer assist, even if the plane was undamaged.
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TheFloater - 5/18/2007 5:09 PM

My Gal - 5/18/2007 7:30 AM

Garett - 5/17/2007 2:42 PM

The days of flying by the seat of your pants are long gone, the computer flies the planes now-a-days......that's why he didn't know the extent of the damage!
Garett-

Fly by wire doesn't mean no "stick & rudder". That FMS system, if he had one, would have disengaged and not possible to engage at the get go.

That was manual skill.

By the way, it is common not to be able to see your wings on high swept winged jets.
Now I could be wrong, but I don't believe that an F-15 is fly-by-wire. I thought the F-16 was the first production fighter with fly-by-wire flight controls. However, all the current fighters have stability augmentation, basically computer-assist to keep the aircraft in control. Modern jet fighters are so inherently unstable that the computer assist is needed, because human reactions could never keep up.

So yeah, great job by the pilot, but I doubt he could have landed it without the computer assist, even if the plane was undamaged.
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I believe the F16 was the first true fly by wire also. F15 had augmentation however this fella was probably in full manual reversion, no or partial hydraulics from fluid loss, fuel issue, maybe electrical but I doubt it. Computer augmentation in those ships dealt with stall, normal flight envelope warning systems.

That fella was on his own and done good. I still can't understand how that ship flew.

Want to add something I noticed. He had one section of inboard slats extented on the bad side. On some jets the extented position is normal and they are powered up allowing for system failure extend. If that is the case with the F15 then it probably kept him with the roll controll he needed. Also, Vref 260kts- think he blews some fuses in his tires?
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