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Old 05-13-2007, 08:07 AM
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Not hardly. Only ones not familiar with the sport would say otherwise. If you want to see someone riding on Daddys coattails look at Kyle Petty. Especially when comparing the stats.
Jr-183 starts/15 wins, 17th avg finish, 14th avg starts- Career 8 years, avg 2 wins/year.
Kyle Petty-795 starts/8 wins, 21th avg finish, 23th avg starts- Career 28 years, avg .29 wins/year. Thats not accounting for JR's successful Busch tenure, and the increased competition with the advent of multi-car teams. Meaning Kyle really sucks as a driver.
This guy drives around on track every Sunday like he's on his way to church. That apple fell far from the Petty tree.
Now having said that, its the uniformed critic and his lack of understanding that fail to see a guy who has proven himself as a competent driver, even when dealing with, a now revealed (read between the lines, much to his credit, JR has never said it) tyrant stepmother, which has in effect produced a highly dysfunctional family team. A team that at one time was capable of building competitive race cars week after week. Is it a coincidence since his father passed, the plate program did also? JR has alot on his plate, he's smart, fiercely competitive and hungry. It's no doubt he will be clearing it with a knife and fork, not a silver spoon.
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Old 05-13-2007, 08:29 AM
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I think it boils down to Jr AND Budweiser wanting a championship BAD. What do ya think will happen to DEI when he's gone? Did you see the interview of the "guy in charge" over there now. Geezzzzz. What a sissy. I"ll give this guy until about February of 08 and he'll be looking for a job. Jr's interview with DW last night was excellent. From Jr's statements, I don't think we'll see him in a 3 car ever.
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I agree from what I saw last night. JR will drive the 3 maybe in 10-15 years. Goes against what the media, and NASCAR.com have stirred up in the last few days. JR has said all along he won't drive the 3 for sometime. Thats startling if anyone thinks he the coattail type. I agree also with what the commentators said, DEI will be OK in the long run, but I don't like OK. The sooner the tyrant steps down, never happen, the better chance DEI has a chance to step it up. The word has to be on pit road how bad it is there. Last year DW said DEI was like a reality TV show. What driver would want to step into that chaos?
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Good read on it.

http://www.journalnow.com/servlet/Satellite?pagename=WSJ%2FMGArticle%2FWSJ_Columnist Article&c=MGArticle&cid=1173351182658&path=!sports !autoracing!&s=1037645509202
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I don't think anybody would say that Junior isn't capable of driving competively in NASCAR as he has proven he can. I just don't think he would have ever gotten the chance if not for Daddy, and his popularity wouldn't have been as high had it not been for Dad. I doubt even Junior would argue those points.

Kyle Petty is a good guy, but he must have inherited his mother's genes!
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What scares me about Jr. is the fact his fans argue with themselves.
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Actually, the departure of Ty Norse had more to do with the down slid of DEI than did Dales death. He ran the show, lock, stock and barrel.
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I don't remember ever hearing anyone question JR's ability or his integrity.
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Earnhardt fans are just becoming restless and want to see a championship
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You amn right we do.
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TrollnHeel - 5/13/2007 9:24 PM

Earnhardt fans are just becoming restless and want to see a championship
If they are in a hurry to have a Championship driver they should start .....














pulling for Gordon or Johnson.
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Looks like it right now. However the deck will be reshuffled with 10 to go.
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Old 05-14-2007, 05:40 AM
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With Ty Norse working at the Waltrip camp with Toyota will Jr be driving a Yota?
Lets face it Yota has the funding ($$$)!

Will turn my stomach to see Jr driving something other than a Chevy. However if Jr is going to drive something other then a Chevy it might as well be a Toyota and not a Ford!

I know the logical choice would be RCR but you never know what is going to happen.
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Not hardly. Only ones not familiar with the sport would say otherwise. If you want to see someone riding on Daddys coattails look at Kyle Petty. Especially when comparing the stats.
Jr-183 starts/15 wins, 17th avg finish, 14th avg starts- Career 8 years, avg 2 wins/year.
Kyle Petty-795 starts/8 wins, 21th avg finish, 23th avg starts- Career 28 years, avg .29 wins/year. Thats not accounting for JR's successful Busch tenure, and the increased competition with the advent of multi-car teams. Meaning Kyle really sucks as a driver.
This guy drives around on track every Sunday like he's on his way to church. That apple fell far from the Petty tree.
Now having said that, its the uniformed critic and his lack of understanding that fail to see a guy who has proven himself as a competent driver, even when dealing with, a now revealed (read between the lines, much to his credit, JR has never said it) tyrant stepmother, which has in effect produced a highly dysfunctional family team. A team that at one time was capable of building competitive race cars week after week. Is it a coincidence since his father passed, the plate program did also? JR has alot on his plate, he's smart, fiercely competitive and hungry. It's no doubt he will be clearing it with a knife and fork, not a silver spoon.
I'm having a hard time undersanding your compaison of Jr. to Kyle Petty. Petty was never considered a top notch driver as Jr. is. Petty was never high in popularity as Jr. is. Kyle's driving has never been compared to his father's as Jr. has been.

Let's compare Jr. with Kenesth. They both came into the Cup Series in 2000.

Wins Jr. 17 Kenesth 15
Top 5's 70 71
Top 10's 112 127
Avg. Finish 16.2 14.8

When you look at Jr.s popularity based upon a driver who entered in the same year over the same amount of races, what caused his superstar status from day one if it were not the Earnhart name?

Look at Johnson who came into the Cup series 2 years after Jr.

27 Wins 73 Top 5's 117 Top 10's and 12.1 Avg. Finish.

If you were to base the drivers popularity ans superstar status on past performances, where should Jr. be?
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TN FREEBIRD - 5/13/2007 10:43 AM I don't think anybody would say that Junior isn't capable of driving competively in NASCAR as he has proven he can. I just don't think he would have ever gotten the chance if not for Daddy, and his popularity wouldn't have been as high had it not been for Dad. I doubt even Junior would argue those points. Kyle Petty is a good guy, but he must have inherited his mother's genes!
King Richard would have never had a shot if it wasn't for Lee Petty.

Look at all the family money in the sport.

Petty, Allison, Earnhardt, Hamilton, Elliott, Waltrip, Wallace, Pearson, just to name a few.

Family money has always been part of Nascar. Always will.
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Old 05-14-2007, 07:58 AM
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The guy behind the wheel is only part of the elements required for winning. It is a TEAM effort. A successful driver in NASCAR has two essential qualities, driving ability and the personal qualities necessary to represent the major sponsors product. Driving is second in importance. Look at Dale Senior..mediocre driver, but extremely marketable. Junior had a natural entry into racing..he was marketable. If you think NASCAR is about the drivers, I gotta bridge to sell ya.
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Hot Rod - 5/14/2007 7:47 AM

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King Richard would have never had a shot if it wasn't for Lee Petty.

Look at all the family money in the sport.

Petty, Allison, Earnhardt, Hamilton, Elliott, Waltrip, Wallace, Pearson, just to name a few.

Family money has always been part of Nascar. Always will.
I actually believe that in some cases it is harder for the son (or daughter) of a driver to compete, because so many fans feel that they should be as good as or better than their father. The expectations that are placed on these younger drivers is much more than their parent had. This also creates additional emotions and stress on these drives along with their own desire to do well and compete on their own and not because they are their father's child, but all of them, some more than others, do ride on their father's coattails. That's how they got their start. The ones that are doing better today, as in the past, weaned themselves off of their fathers coattails and put on their own. This may be what Jr. is doing now.
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Capt. Marty - 5/14/2007 8:34 AM
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King Richard would have never had a shot if it wasn't for Lee Petty.

Look at all the family money in the sport.

Petty, Allison, Earnhardt, Hamilton, Elliott, Waltrip, Wallace, Pearson, just to name a few.

Family money has always been part of Nascar. Always will.
I actually believe that in some cases it is harder for the son (or daughter) of a driver to compete, because so many fans feel that they should be as good as or better than their father.
Harder to compete? Maybe.

But easier to get in for sure.
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Hot Rod - 5/14/2007 9:04 AM

Capt. Marty - 5/14/2007 8:34 AM
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King Richard would have never had a shot if it wasn't for Lee Petty.

Look at all the family money in the sport.

Petty, Allison, Earnhardt, Hamilton, Elliott, Waltrip, Wallace, Pearson, just to name a few.

Family money has always been part of Nascar. Always will.
I actually believe that in some cases it is harder for the son (or daughter) of a driver to compete, because so many fans feel that they should be as good as or better than their father.
Harder to compete? Maybe.

But easier to get in for sure.
Absolutly!
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billinstuart - 5/14/2007 7:58 AM

The guy behind the wheel is only part of the elements required for winning. It is a TEAM effort. A successful driver in NASCAR has two essential qualities, driving ability and the personal qualities necessary to represent the major sponsors product. Driving is second in importance. Look at Dale Senior..mediocre driver, but extremely marketable. Junior had a natural entry into racing..he was marketable. If you think NASCAR is about the drivers, I gotta bridge to sell ya.
I was never a Dale Sr fan, but I will have to dissagree, with the driving statement, I have seen him do things with an ill handling racecar that would make some drivers pit early. Jr has shown that ability from time to time and I'm not a big Jr fan either, I was a Davey Allison fan and have always pulled for RYR since, I have been pulling for the Va drivers as of late.
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