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Old 05-10-2007, 09:51 AM
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I know lots of you have these John Deere and other hi $$ tractors. My 25 year old sears finally crapped out (keep blowing the 6 speed tranny and am tired of rebuilding it - Ok I know I shouldnt be towing the boat around the yard) . I am looking for the cheapest one with auto trans - and due to a back problem a speed control that doesnt require my foot to continuously be on the pedal. I found a Sears one for 1299 - But have to wait for 2 weeks. Are these Cadets and Deeres in Lowes and Home Depot worth the extra $$$ - and are the the same as you get at dealers????.... I am going to get to a local dealer later today but expect to see 2500 plus prices - What extra am I getting for the extra $$$ Am I gonna notice any brands as easier on my back - What should I look for to get a smooth ride on my rough yard. should I look for large rear wheels or something?

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Old 05-10-2007, 10:26 AM
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If it wasn't for the large price differential I would suggest that you look at the ZTR(Zero Turn Radius) mowers. They look like the cat's meow. However, I would be afraid that I would be flipping around and fall off if I turned too quick. However, to get one with similar capabilities will cost you about $1,000. Can't you find another Sears store close around that has the tractor in stock?
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The Deeres at Home Depot are a far cry from the real Deeres at the dealers, but they are better than the store brands. Nothing wrong with Craftsman either.
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Does'nt most Sears Craftsman stuff have a life time gaurantee ??? If so they should replace it if they can't fix it !!!!!


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Old 05-10-2007, 11:59 AM
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The Craftsman hand-tools have a lifetime gaurantee. My old 25 year old mower had other problems also, like it was slowly sinking to the ground . I couldn't adjust it to cut as high as I needed it for my rocky "lawn". I also ran the motor for an hour once with no oil - it smoked a bit but did restart - I want one with the hydrostatic tranny which is better for moving a small boat and a wagon of rocks around the property in.

Thanks Hotspot - I figured they must be a step down from the other brands - if I see a good price this afternoon I'll go that route - sometimes they have last years ones in boxes way up on the top shelves - If not - Sears is the backup plan - Thanks again to all

dam the mayflies and lil skeeters are unbelievable this year!!!! Youall got them bugs down south?
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LI ~ yeah, stay away from the JD models at HD and Lowes - they're NOT the same.

I've been extremely happy with the Husquvarna that Daddy'O bought me 3 yrs. ago. It's got the Kohler motor, 48" cut (I think it is) and the hydrostatic tranny. LOVE----IT!!!!

And we've always had great luck with the Craftsmen lawnmowers we've owned. Have an old used one right now and it's GREAT! I'd "assume" the riders are just as great...?

And YES!! The mayflies (down here we call 'em Texas mosquitos) and the actual MOSQUITOS are HORRIBLE!!! I hate to complain though.....cuz it's due to all the RAIN we've been gettin'.......which we AIN'T HAD in TWO YEARS worth of DROUGHT! So~ we'll use more "Off" this year.

HAPPY LAWN CUTTIN'!!!
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Old 05-10-2007, 05:45 PM
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I saw that sears is having sales on rider mowers. 20 plus HP auto speed for around 1500$. I bought one 3 years ago 26 kohler OHV with foot control speed for 1500 and 46" blade. Love it.. I would go this root.
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hmmm..what's the difference between this:



and this?

One comes from lowes, and the other from John Deere.

http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCatalog/HO/servlet/com.deere.u90785.cce.productcatalog.view.servlets. ProdCatProduct?pNbr=SKU20404&tM=HO&link=en av#

http://www.lowes.com/lowes/lkn?action=productDetail&productId=212386-573-BG20404&lpage=none
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wow......... i didn't expect that

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Old 05-10-2007, 08:40 PM
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they are exactly the same parts and all.

that's one of the big myths.
Now some JD dealers carry more expensive models that have the kawasaki engines an jD engines,
however you can find the model at home depot and lowes at your JD dealer and those are the same.
I preger brigs than kohler engines.

I told that to my neighbour I got a JD with a briggs, he got the JD 17hp with a kohler engine,
he made major problems, but is all good, under warranty.

JD site is really good.
i got this one 2 years ago,
flawless, i wanted a 22hp, however they only had a 22 with the kohler,
so i got this one
http://products.howstuffworks.com/jo...tor-review.htm
the ticket is getting a JD at the end of the year when they rolling the new models.
you can save close to 500 doll on a 2000 doll mower.

they only change the sticker and name it but for the most is still the same model.

when i got mine a HD i check the dealers exactly the same mower.
Now HD does not carry the 10k and 16k 4x4 JD that the dealer has, that I agree.
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farmerjane - 5/10/2007 11:08 AM

LI ~ yeah, stay away from the JD models at HD and Lowes - they're NOT the same.

I've been extremely happy with the Husquvarna that Daddy'O bought me 3 yrs. ago. It's got the Kohler motor, 48" cut (I think it is) and the hydrostatic tranny. LOVE----IT!!!!

And we've always had great luck with the Craftsmen lawnmowers we've owned. Have an old used one right now and it's GREAT! I'd "assume" the riders are just as great...?

And YES!! The mayflies (down here we call 'em Texas mosquitos) and the actual MOSQUITOS are HORRIBLE!!! I hate to complain though.....cuz it's due to all the RAIN we've been gettin'.......which we AIN'T HAD in TWO YEARS worth of DROUGHT! So~ we'll use more "Off" this year.

HAPPY LAWN CUTTIN'!!!
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Jane , get back in the kitchen.
1] they are the same
2]you got your new mower right, but you didn't tell us you don't have to use your feet [ use handle on right side for forward and reverse ]
3]your last rider was a CRAFTSMAN.
4]Yes our winged critters are so big only can get 2 or 3 to a tree.
5]It's been 3 years of drought [ we are back to normal stats. now ]

Now Jane, If ya can't get it right just ask Daddy 'O or myself next time, OK.


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Old 05-10-2007, 08:58 PM
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husqvarna is a better brand than hd in my opinion on their lower end models.
off course the high end jd dealers carry are not the same.
http://www.deere.com/en_US/ProductCa...M=HO&link=enav

HD and Lowes only carry the low to middle range ones,
they sell those at the dealer also.
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LI. I also run the Husqvarna with the Kawasaki .

Diggen the Kowee. 4th season no probs just blade changes right at 140 hrs.

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I Got to take my JD to the dealer. a big mishap I run an hammer thru it, I changed the blades
but cannot level the deck.

rather than that just oil chg and filter at every 50 hours.

I had a friend that had a mowing bussiness for over 10 years that told me to stay away from kohler engines,
but I guess is the luck of the draw.

I might have to sell my JD, friend got rid of his bussiness and his moving to a sub division next year has a 7k dixie shopper and no place to keep it, so next year if the price is right that will be my next mower.
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Old 05-10-2007, 09:26 PM
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The new JD tractors aren't half of what the old ones were. After blowing up a murray and an mtd, with trans and belt issues, and finnally a blown up briggs POS. I went and looked at a new deere,
looked about the same as the mtd. Then I saw the price tag. I decided to bite the bullett and get one any way.
But I did some reading up on the net, looking at the L series first. lotsa unhappy folks out there. Bad deck spindles (non-greaseable) plastic hoods that melt, etc. went back to negotiate on the price and they wern't gonna budge.
On the way out I saw my new sweetheart, an older (like 70's) JD 212. I think this sucker is gonna last awhile. The weight is like 800 pounds. lotsa grease fittings, and a belt adjuster.
Scored it for $800. love it so far. no hydro but it has a straight drive with variable speeds.
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For just mowing you can't beat the comfort of a Zero turning radius mowers I prefer lawn Boy
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the cheaper line JD stuff can be had from the box store as well as the dealers, biggest difference in these and the higher quality units is the thickness of the metal used throughout them. From an ownership standpoint, if you buy one from home depot, your local dealer will be the one responsible for any warranty repair, I can promise you that you will be last in line for repairs if you got yours from home depot as opposed to other customers.
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autobaun70 - 5/10/2007 11:17 PM

the cheaper line JD stuff can be had from the box store as well as the dealers, biggest difference in these and the higher quality units is the thickness of the metal used throughout them. From an ownership standpoint, if you buy one from home depot, your local dealer will be the one responsible for any warranty repair, I can promise you that you will be last in line for repairs if you got yours from home depot as opposed to other customers.
You nailed it Trey. The higher line at Deere has better fit and finish, lots of grease points, heavier materials, etc.
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:12 PM
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better rethink dragging a boat around with a hydrostatic lawn tractor. It is my understanding that the hydro unit that most of the "lawn tractors" use doesn't tolerate pulling heavy loads very well. I use my Craftsman (15 hp Kohler, 42" cut, hydro) to pull things I shouldn't (piles of branches bigger than the tractor and cart loads of dirt) and it has held up well for about 10 years but I am very careful. I looked into using it to move my 16'er around in the yard but reconsidered after reading numerous posts about people burning up the hydro unit doing simular things. A "garden tractor" would have a heavier hydro drive (I assume) but none of them are going to recommend using them to move really heavy loads.

In the spirit of THT overkill, maybe you should consider a tractor
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Old 05-11-2007, 01:56 PM
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Stick with sears. I have the garden tractor with the 26 hp briggs. I abuse it and it has held up. If you need parts they are all online with drawings. I ordered a new manuel and it came in a Husquvarna package. Alot of these are made by the same companies go where you can get the cheapest price.
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