Notices

Used Jet Skis

Old 05-09-2007, 10:07 PM
  #1  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Wilson, NC/Goose Creek Landing
Posts: 1,032
Default Used Jet Skis

Looking to buy a couple used jet skis w/ trailer. Anyone have any advise. Wanting to spend $6,000 to $8,000
rdsrb5 is offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 10:23 PM
  #2  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ON THE WATER
Posts: 2,796
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

best hull out there is seadoo
yami for a cruiser
try pwctoday.com
JUSTINTIME is offline  
Old 05-09-2007, 10:29 PM
  #3  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: May 2007
Location: Miami, FloriDUH
Posts: 2,024
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

Yea. Be careful. Many skis are run hard and not maintained very well.

Lazy_Iguana is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 12:06 AM
  #4  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 9,052
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

Stick with Yamaha - if you look around, 9 out of 10 rental skis you see are Yamaha 700s. And while I have owned Kawasaki and Yam and been happy with both, I would not go with Sea Doo - all joking aside there is a reason you see so many for sale with "new" engines. The oddball brands (polaris/tigershark/whoever else) just don't have enough market share to consider. I would have thought the hondas were great but heard from a honda/yam/doo mechanic that one big local dealer stopped carrying them because they were sick of all the warranty work coming in. He also said Yamaha was the way to go.

I had a 1998 GP1200 and even though it was 9 years old anyone who saw it would assume it was a 2004-2005 model. I never really had time for it, but once every 3 months when I got around to it the thing would fire right up after charging the battery, and ran like a scalded rat. Really impressed with construction, layout, and reliability. I recently sold it for about $3500. I owned it for ~4 years and put about 50 hours on it without a hiccup.

People buy skis all the time and then never use them. You should be able to find a pair for $7k-9kk that are in very good shape. Most important thing would be to find an owner that was careful about flushing, general upkeep, covering them from sun damage, etc. Owner who was too busy to ride but still took care of them = best case scenario.
Flot is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 07:38 AM
  #5  
Admirals ClubCaptains Club Member Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2002
Location: anderson, sc
Posts: 18,496
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

Lazy_Iguana - 5/9/2007 10:29 PM

Yea. Be careful. Many skis are run hard and not maintained very well.
They are a blast but I have had too many friends that had them and most of them are run hard and put up wet and you will see a lot of them with NEW engines.

Not sure how the new 4 strokes hold up but I can recall 3-4 years ago a lot of them had oil injection problems and most people did not realize it till the motor locked up
tprice is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 07:38 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Jacksonville, Florida, US
Posts: 14,527
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

I bought a one year old 2003 Yamaha XL700 - smallest I could find since my teenagers would be using it for wakeboarding etc. It also makes a super ship-to-shore transport. I found it way up north of Savannah so you may need to drive a bit to get a good ski, believe it or not you may not find that many late year models for sale.
Menzies is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 09:46 AM
  #7  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Lancaster, PA
Posts: 1,018
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

I used to work on the 3 major brands...stick with Yamaha.
abeal2 is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 11:38 AM
  #8  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: CT
Posts: 3,050
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

If you go seadoo, avoid 1997-2000 model with the 951cc engine. They were notorious for water ingestion. The 951DI motor in the doos has been pretty reliable. You could pick up a descent RXDI or GTXDI for around $4000. In the Yamaha world, the 2000-2003 1200cc motors had issues with their powervalves and catalytic converters. Otherwise, they were bulletproof. I had an 01 GP1200R for a few years and it was a great machine after a few items were addresses. There is a fix for the powervalves and cats if you do choose Yamaha. Again, a nice GP1200r of XLT1200 can be found for around $4000. As with anything, have an independent mechanic inspect the skis. Most are ridden hard and at the upper limit of their RPM's. Good luck!
paulyjsob is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 03:12 PM
  #9  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Wilson, NC/Goose Creek Landing
Posts: 1,032
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

Thanks, lots of good info to consider.
rdsrb5 is offline  
Old 05-10-2007, 03:44 PM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: On The Tenna Sea
Posts: 6,212
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

abeal2 - 5/10/2007 9:46 AM

I used to work on the 3 major brands...stick with Yamaha.
I see you must be a mechanic, so I'll go off course just a second to ask a question.

In addition to a Yamaha 1100 WaveRaider, I have a Boston Whaler 14 Rage which has a Yamaha 650 WaveRunner powerplant and jet drive. I can't find anybody to work on the damm thing because it's not a jet ski! Duh.

I've done the tail chase with Boston Whaler and Yamaha with each telling me to call the other. Mine runs great except that it won't turn much more than about 1,500 rpm (guesstimated). I have the owner's manual which talks about an overheat sensor that will limit the rpm to about that. I've tried everything I know to bypass this sensor to see if it is the problem, but no dice.

I had a dealer in FL who couldn't work me in when I had it down there, but he said on the phone the problem would not be with the overheat sensor as that would cause a rythmic interruption instead of a smooth one like mine is. He thought it sounded like a stuck choke, but unless there is something I'm missing, the choke is open when I remove the arrestor.

Any advice?
TN FREEBIRD is offline  
Old 05-11-2007, 06:16 PM
  #11  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: May 2005
Location: South Florida
Posts: 9,052
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

TN FREEBIRD - 5/10/2007 3:44 PM
I've done the tail chase with Boston Whaler and Yamaha with each telling me to call the other. Mine runs great except that it won't turn much more than about 1,500 rpm (guesstimated). I have the owner's manual which talks about an overheat sensor that will limit the rpm to about that. I've tried everything I know to bypass this sensor to see if it is the problem, but no dice.

I had a dealer in FL who couldn't work me in when I had it down there, but he said on the phone the problem would not be with the overheat sensor as that would cause a rythmic interruption instead of a smooth one like mine is. He thought it sounded like a stuck choke, but unless there is something I'm missing, the choke is open when I remove the arrestor.
I'm not a mechanic but I don't like paying them either. Unfortunately being stuck at 1500 rpm could be almost anything - could even be a bad ign coil or fuel problem, is it running smoothly at RPMs below that? And when you say 1500 does it literally go to that RPM and stay there running smoothly? Will it actually run the same low RPM in the water or out? Did the whaler maybe have a neutral or reverse sensor that might limit the RPMs? Any sensor like that you could be able to bypass by either unplugging it or grounding it.

I'm surprised you can't get a jetski mechanic to look at it... I can't imagine there would be more than a handful of customized parts. Without ever seeing one I would imagine that if there's a reverse bucket, they would probably want to put a limiter like that in to protect you from gunning it in reverse?
Flot is offline  
Old 05-12-2007, 08:21 AM
  #12  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: SC
Posts: 9,500
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

I wouldn't hesitate to buy a new sea doo, but used IMO the yamaha's are far superior, expecially when it comes to 2-stroke ski's. If you do buy a 2-stroke of any brand, be sure to change out the oil filter that feeds the oil injection asap. Also, if you can't verify exactly what brand of oil is currently being run in it, run the tank nearly empty and then switch over to the quality brand of your choosing & stick with that specific brand. I've seen quite a few ski's with blown motors due to the inline oil filters being gummed up, especially sea doo's (including mine). When this happens, a no oil situation happens in very short order which tends to lead to a new motor or a rebuild.
autobaun70 is offline  
Old 05-12-2007, 09:51 AM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: s.w. florida
Posts: 4,075
Default RE: Used Jet Skis

Call here and ask for Ron Michales or Mark Barr They are selling last years rentals in pairs on NEW trailers. They may be renatls but are meticulaously maintained.
Marco island Ski and watersports

Office Address

922 Windward Drive
Marco Island, FL 34145
Office: (239) 394-4344
Fax: (239) 394-4007


baitkiller is offline  
Old 05-12-2007, 10:16 AM
  #14  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: CT
Posts: 18,347
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

I have an older seadoo and would not recommend it - it is very hard to work on. Maybe they all are...
LI Sound Grunt is offline  
Old 05-12-2007, 07:15 PM
  #15  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location:
Posts: 9,907
Default RE: Used Jet Skis

I'm not a fan but would have to agree that jet skis are the most highly abused and mistreated watercraft avaiable!

Buy NEW and give them all the fresh new abuse they can take!
mronzo is offline  
Old 05-13-2007, 11:16 AM
  #16  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: On The Tenna Sea
Posts: 6,212
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

AdamLotz - 5/11/2007 6:16 PM

TN FREEBIRD - 5/10/2007 3:44 PM
I've done the tail chase with Boston Whaler and Yamaha with each telling me to call the other. Mine runs great except that it won't turn much more than about 1,500 rpm (guesstimated). I have the owner's manual which talks about an overheat sensor that will limit the rpm to about that. I've tried everything I know to bypass this sensor to see if it is the problem, but no dice.

I had a dealer in FL who couldn't work me in when I had it down there, but he said on the phone the problem would not be with the overheat sensor as that would cause a rythmic interruption instead of a smooth one like mine is. He thought it sounded like a stuck choke, but unless there is something I'm missing, the choke is open when I remove the arrestor.
I'm not a mechanic but I don't like paying them either. Unfortunately being stuck at 1500 rpm could be almost anything - could even be a bad ign coil or fuel problem, is it running smoothly at RPMs below that? And when you say 1500 does it literally go to that RPM and stay there running smoothly? Will it actually run the same low RPM in the water or out? Did the whaler maybe have a neutral or reverse sensor that might limit the RPMs? Any sensor like that you could be able to bypass by either unplugging it or grounding it.

I'm surprised you can't get a jetski mechanic to look at it... I can't imagine there would be more than a handful of customized parts. Without ever seeing one I would imagine that if there's a reverse bucket, they would probably want to put a limiter like that in to protect you from gunning it in reverse?
There is no neutral or reverse sensor on a jet boat, but I can get it to rev past that 1,500 or so by cavitating the drive between forward and reverse.

The mechanic I spoke with confirmed I had in fact bypassed the sensor with the tricks I used, but said the sensor was not the problem so there would have been no change in the rpm.

NOBODY at the Yamaha factory in either CA or GA could tell me how to test that sensor!!! I even had a factory guy tell me through a customer service gal that if the engine would run on the trailer, it wasn't an overheat sensor problem!!! DUH!!! I finally gave up having been switched back and forth from the outboard engine facility in Kennesaw to the main office in CA for everything else. It was unbelievable that those people couldn't or wouldn't answer such basic questions.

I've changed plugs and the fuel filter with no change whatsoever. The engine starts and runs smoothly right up to that brick wall of 1,500 where it just refuses to run any faster. It is next to impossible to get anything serviced in TN in the Knoxville area without just putting your name on a list and waiting for weeks! God only knows what would have happened if I had dropped this thing off with the local Yamaha guy who said he too thought the problem would be with that sensor, but he didn't know how to check it other than just replacing it. The factory sure wasn't going to be of any help, and there's no way they would have taken back an electrical part.

I don't mind one bit paying a professional to do a job, but I do have a problem with paying for his on the job training. I supposed I have reached the point where I have no choice as I have run out of things to check that I know how to do. I'll be looking at a compression test next and then the carb. Who knows? I'm just tired on running barely on plane with that Whaler.

I don't think I mentioned it ran that way when I bought it, but the seller swore it would clear up after it ran for a while. I used that in a price negotiation, so I'm not worried about even having to rebuild the engine which only shows 50 hours on it with him buying it new.
TN FREEBIRD is offline  
Old 05-13-2007, 11:24 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ON THE WATER
Posts: 2,796
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

i will bring this up to my teacher who is a pwc guru at mmi
i bet he knows
JUSTINTIME is offline  
Old 05-13-2007, 11:58 AM
  #18  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: SWFL
Posts: 239
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

I would suggest finding one that has "normal" hours and not low hours. When i was in high school I worked on the beach renting skis, and we would put a few thousand hours on the skis and they would get beat up every day and never have a major problem like an engine rebuid. I bought a new yamaha gp800 in 99, and would only use it when i would come home from collage, which was about 3-4 times a year. I let it sit for about a year and the second time i took it out it lost a cylinder and had 0 comp. I got the top end rebuit on the whole motor and it ws about $1400. I sold it right after that and it only had 70hrs on it in 6 yrs of use.
RY54 is offline  
Old 05-14-2007, 06:13 PM
  #19  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2006
Location: ON THE WATER
Posts: 2,796
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

TN FREEBIRD

alright here we go
there should be a engine hatch switch, that would cause this situation, told by my teacher
he said do a compression test because it is weird you can get over 1500 if u go forward or reverse
JUSTINTIME is offline  
Old 05-15-2007, 09:13 AM
  #20  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2007
Location: On The Tenna Sea
Posts: 6,212
Default Re: Used Jet Skis

JUSTINTIME - 5/14/2007 6:13 PM

TN FREEBIRD

alright here we go
there should be a engine hatch switch, that would cause this situation, told by my teacher
he said do a compression test because it is weird you can get over 1500 if u go forward or reverse
I appreciate the effort man, but I don't recall seeing any type of switch. I'll certainly check though. It will rev up smoothly with no pressure on the pump, so I just hope and pray it isn't a compression problem as we all know what that means!

This boat is basically a WaveRunner stuck in a Boston Whaler hull. It's a center console and even has handlebars and a trigger throttle like the jet ski. The whole console tilts forward to expose the engine. It's really a cool little boat!

Boston Whaler only built these for a few years. In fact, when I took it by State Farm to have them take pictures, the agent called me back the next day and said they couldn't insure it. According to their underwriter, it was home made!!!

Apparently, if it doesn't show up in NADA, it doesn't exist! Mine is the first year production which really does not show up. When I pointed things out to them, they agreed it was factory but tried to charge me a higher rate because it had like 115 HP!

I once again referred them to Boston Whaler who confirmed the first year production did have the Yamaha drivetrain which is as I recall 55 HP. Not a screamer, but I bought it as a tender for my 58.

It seems nobody knows anything about this boat, not saying your instructor doesn't. Boston Whaler and Yamaha sure don't, and they built the damm thing.
TN FREEBIRD is offline  

Thread Tools
Search this Thread