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Old 04-17-2007, 11:52 PM
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I was in Cosco the other day with the wife and they had a 70" HUGE projection tv for $2999 that was pretty impressive. My questions is this: How is projection these days? I currently have an older box on that still puts on a good picture but obviously nothing like the TV's of today.

70" in pretty darn big. It had a better picture than any of the Plasma or LCD tv's.

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Get the DLP over the traditional projection. I have one and love it! taditional projection is hard to see if you are not viewing directly on and the quality is certainly more "grainy" than DLP. Plasma has a glass screen which causes a reflection so lighing in the room is an issue. LCD's are high priced (especially if you want over 40") and dont have quite the color contrast of plasma or DLP. DLP's take up a bit more space and viewing from very sharp angles causes a loss in quality. However, bang for the buck and quality of picture are hard to beat with the DLP's. Its the mirrors
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Old 04-18-2007, 05:40 AM
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DLP's have bulp which don't last, LCD's don't have good black plus trail effect and high cost. Plasma have glass but the picture that you can't beat so as price. I went with Panasonic 50" plasma, LOVE IT! It was in top 10 TV's under 2k.
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BTW the best place I found was in Circuit City with the simple reason- price mach and 30 day return. Glad I did- when I got first TV, the screen had crack, returned no problem.
One more, the tv size you should match to the room size unless you want to move your head all the time or go blind, just my 2c.
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From what I've been told, a properly calibrated CRT rear projection TV's picture beats everything out there except a conventional CRT.
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Rear projection is priced right for what you get.........save today but pay tomorrow.

The problem with rear projection is that the bulbs just don't last and they are pricey to replace. Rear projection sets have the least amount of viewing hours available. And to make matters worse is that the bulbs do not work on the same principal as regular light bulbs....regular light bulbs work or don't work, whereas the coloured bulbs used in rear projection sets diminishes over time well before they go out. When one of the coloured bulbs (red, green, blue) starts to go your colour will be all screwed up and there is nothing you can do to adjust it....except for to replace the bulb. IMO they are priced accordantly to what you buy.
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Old 04-18-2007, 08:10 AM
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The only reason I'm asking is the old projection TV I have now is about 10 years old and working fine. It's old school technology but still working. I heard they have improved on the shelf life? I do kind of agree that the size should be appropriate but it's really hard as a guy to pass up on the 70"!!!! Pretty kool dudes!
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Bulbs only need to be replace about every 2 years. They cost around $100...

I just didnt like the glare of the Plasma screens. You could see way to much reflection if they are not in a properly lighted area for viewing.
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I have never replaced a bulb in my projection TV and it's about 9 years old now?
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I have never replaced a bulb in my projection TV and it's about 9 years old now?
Smitty, the type projection tv you currently have is the older style that uses 3 bulbs(red,green,blue).If you should need a bulb in that tv,just forget about it because those bulbs run mucho dinero and are not worth fixing.The newer projection tv's are dlp or lcd projection,and only have one bulb to replace,which is almost like a halogen light bulb of sorts.These bulbs will last several hundred hours,so don't leave the tv running while you don't intend on watching it.
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I bought a 61" rear proj LCD Sony in January.....I love it. My wife and daughter initially told me the pic was so big it made them dizzy.......they have recovered and enjoy the TV now. After you get one of these monsters, regular TV seems tiny. If you watch any sports event in HD mode you will be shocked how incredibly clear the pic is. The Sony I bought has a built-in HD converter that allows me to watch certain HD channels for free through the analog cable hookup. I agree with the OP, the price on these rear projectors is extremely attractive.

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I have one of those monster projection TV's - 72" to be exact and I'm loving every minute of it. It's true a CRT would offer a better picture but good luck finding a 72" CRT. A rear projection TV would be good but a 72" rear projection would be huge! The DLP is big but not that big!

Picture is really good (1080p) and other than a MFG problem with defective bulbs I have not had any issues with the TV. I purchased my folks a Sharp Aquos LCD and set it up beside my DLP and thought the Aquos had a brighter picture and more vivid colors than the DLP. So for my next TV I'll go either LCD or Plasma.

It's hard to go into Costco and compare TV's. You need to look at (5) 50" TV's side by side, all calibrated and all playing from the same source to determine which offers the best picture. I'd bet you'll say plasma first, lcd a close second and dlp not too far behind if you are looking at the latest technology.
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Smitty777 - 4/18/2007 8:10 AM

The only reason I'm asking is the old projection TV I have now is about 10 years old and working fine. It's old school technology but still working. I heard they have improved on the shelf life? I do kind of agree that the size should be appropriate but it's really hard as a guy to pass up on the 70"!!!! Pretty kool dudes!
I have a 48" RCA that I purchased in 1995 that still looks and works great.
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The one I have now is a 50" and still going strong but want to get rid of it before it dies so I might be able to get a couple bucks for it.
FireFly - I agree with you it is difficult in Cosco but it's not much better in Best Buy or Circut City! They are ALL a bunch of stupid kids that work in these stores that don't have a clue what they are talking about anyways! We just ran into that 70incher and it was hard to walk away without buying it. I went to the other stores mentioned and they seemed higher in price for the same TV's except the Sony's, they were much higher.
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I buy all my gear from digital1234.com they have the best prices but zero customer service. You have to know what you want and not expect to have any hold hand holding or questions answered. I'm watching the 42" 1080p Aquos LCD price and hope it will drop so I can get one and use it as a computer monitor/TV in my office.

I agree the folks at the box stores don't know much. If you go to the high end places they know plenty and they also charge you plenty if you buy from them.
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Old 04-19-2007, 09:28 AM
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I replaced our 298 lb tube TV in January when the power supply went out. I was able to take advantage of the Super Bowl sales. My Dad had just bought the Sony LCD in a 46 inch that is 720 HD. I was not impressed with the standard picture quality and older DVD playback.

I had decided on the Plasma because of Picture quality and pricing. After making the rounds of all the box stores we ended up in Best Buy. The kid that helped us seemed very knowledgeable. We ended up with a Sony 55 inch SXRD rear projection in 1080 full HD. We are extremely pleased with this TV. Planet Earth has been nothing short of amazing on this set.

The only negative I have found is that it takes John Wayne a lot longer to ride from one end of screen to the other.

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DLP's have bulp which don't last, LCD's don't have good black plus trail effect and high cost. Plasma have glass but the picture that you can't beat so as price. I went with Panasonic 50" plasma, LOVE IT! It was in top 10 TV's under 2k.
Here's some info: http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/
BTW the best place I found was in Circuit City with the simple reason- price mach and 30 day return. Glad I did- when I got first TV, the screen had crack, returned no problem.
One more, the tv size you should match to the room size unless you want to move your head all the time or go blind, just my 2c.
the DLP bulbs last 4-7 years depending how my hours you watch it. Plasma tv's have a gas in side that last 7-10 years. The bulbs cost $170-$200 and can be replace in seconds. The gas in a plasma can't be replaced and the set it all done.If the tv is not going to be hung on a wall DLP is the way to go. Not to mention that Plasma gives off alot of heat from its fan. plasma has a great picture no question but I'll put up a samsung 56" DLP 1080p against them all and they cost $2300.DLP's also don't have etching problems like plasma's.
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Just bought a 46" Sharp Aquos 1080P LCD television from Sears. Sears has it for $2,499, Costco had it for $2,299 plus a coupon (which expires this Saturday) for another $300 off. Sears matched the price, plus gave me another $60 off with their price match guarantee. So, got one of the hottest LCD tvs for $1,939.

The rear projection TVs do give you a lot of bang for the buck though. we might have gone that route, but due to space wanted to mount the unit on the wall.
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I have been looking at the Samsung 61" LED DLP, other manufacturers are working on LED so I hear.

Mitsubishi is working on a LASER TV with DLP " no bulbs to burn out" might be out later this year.
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I have one of those monster projection TV's - 72" to be exact and I'm loving every minute of it. It's true a CRT would offer a better picture but good luck finding a 72" CRT. A rear projection TV would be good but a 72" rear projection would be huge! The DLP is big but not that big!

Picture is really good (1080p) and other than a MFG problem with defective bulbs I have not had any issues with the TV. I purchased my folks a Sharp Aquos LCD and set it up beside my DLP and thought the Aquos had a brighter picture and more vivid colors than the DLP. So for my next TV I'll go either LCD or Plasma.

It's hard to go into Costco and compare TV's. You need to look at (5) 50" TV's side by side, all calibrated and all playing from the same source to determine which offers the best picture. I'd bet you'll say plasma first, lcd a close second and dlp not too far behind if you are looking at the latest technology.

Only a few Dvd players and some games can produce 1080. As far as calibration, look at the link that I had before. I did my plasma +- and did not miss a thing from oldie Trinitron.
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DLP's have bulp which don't last, LCD's don't have good black plus trail effect and high cost. Plasma have glass but the picture that you can't beat so as price. I went with Panasonic 50" plasma, LOVE IT! It was in top 10 TV's under 2k.
Here's some info: http://www.plasmatvbuyingguide.com/
BTW the best place I found was in Circuit City with the simple reason- price mach and 30 day return. Glad I did- when I got first TV, the screen had crack, returned no problem.
One more, the tv size you should match to the room size unless you want to move your head all the time or go blind, just my 2c.
the DLP bulbs last 4-7 years depending how my hours you watch it. Plasma tv's have a gas in side that last 7-10 years. The bulbs cost $170-$200 and can be replace in seconds. The gas in a plasma can't be replaced and the set it all done.If the tv is not going to be hung on a wall DLP is the way to go. Not to mention that Plasma gives off alot of heat from its fan. plasma has a great picture no question but I'll put up a samsung 56" DLP 1080p against them all and they cost $2300.DLP's also don't have etching problems like plasma's.
Agree, but new plasma should last 10-15yrs. I don't care about heat and as far as etching, yes you have to pre-burn them for 60-80 hrs. I made my decision in getting plasma over other's, based on consumer rev. and best buy publications, not salesman.
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