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Old 04-11-2007, 12:20 AM
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What would a super clean ( not a scratch ), 96' Dyna Wide glide be worth? Less than 20,000 miles.

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Old 04-11-2007, 01:01 AM
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Here's the thing. Ever since the new factory opened to produce Sportsters, the old factory has been producing more bikes than HD can sell. The previous shortage of bikes has turned into a glut. Prices have fallen through the floor. HD didn't help themselves when the produced 2003's for two full years. Anyway, the MSRP on that bike was around $14,000 and it's probably worth less than half now unless there's something extremely special about it. Low miles alone, won't make much of a difference. Good luck.
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Old 04-11-2007, 07:01 AM
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I'd have to say HDRYDER nailed it.....
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Old 04-11-2007, 10:34 AM
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HDRyder999 - 4/11/2007 1:01 AMAnyway, the MSRP on that bike was around $14,000 and it's probably worth less than half now unless there's something extremely special about it.
Really..... HALF???

Dang, I've been looking in all the wrong places! Local Stuart FL paper, motorcycle papers, ebay..... I'm finding the opposite, I plan on buying new mostly because the used ones have such high resale value, it isn't worth it. Also because of the new engine in 07 I feel will help resale in 3 or 4 years. PLEASE Forward me a link to all the 96or newer Dynas for under that $7,000.. At that level I will definately go used.... I'll take two, one for FL and one for NJ. Infact, aside from a Sporty, I haven't seen any HD's advertised at any age for $7k, let alone a 96...
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Old 04-11-2007, 11:30 AM
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Did a search on cycletrader and most are in the $10,000 to $12,000 range. Only one less than $9,000 was "slightly damaged". While there is a surplus of HD's right now I think $7,000 is low. Just my lil' ol' .02.

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Old 04-11-2007, 11:39 AM
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Harley's aren't what they used to be in terms of resale value. People were paying over MSRP for them a few years ago, and now dealers are discounting them because of poor sales in respect to supply and demand.

You are going to lose your a$$ on ANY new Harley with the exception of a limited edition model like the Screamin' Eagle on which you will only lose half your a$$! TRUST ME ON THIS ONE!!! I have almost $30K in mine and can't pull $17K out of it with only 2K miles and remaining warranty.
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Old 04-11-2007, 01:17 PM
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I don't own a Harley. I wanted one from when I was quite young. More than able to afford one now and don't want on anymore. Go figure.

I have felt however that HD has sold bikes to all of those who wanted them. They did this when times were good and they made good money doing it. It's not often when a builder can sell it's product for thousands over MSRP. Yes, there were many factors in this. I will say that I believe HD has become a whore. You can buy nearly anything with the logo and HD printed on it. Who's making this stuff for them?

You buy a new HD then to make it "yours" you pump another easy 10-14 K into it. That's a whole bunch of money when your done. The custom market is the in thing now because of ???? Full custom, just like you want it, for a few less bucks. (sometimes) I always enjoyed them at the shops.

I still hand it to them but like most other publicly traded companies, the profits will someday slow and that's not what the shareholder wants to see or hear. I'm not sure how the V Rod played into this but I didn't care for it. The japs didn't help matters either. They all use to make fun of HD but isn't it funny that they now look like them. I had more friends that called Harleys chitboxes including a guy that raced for Yamaha. Care to know what the ride now? Harleys. Know another who couldn't spell it till he bought one. He now looks (the last time I saw him) like a walking billboard for them. He's still an A hole by the way!

For the record... There is not much that sounds better than a Harley engine. I don't think the burn outs from my brother's Fat Boy are ever going to wear off my garage floor.
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Old 04-11-2007, 04:45 PM
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I've been looking pretty hard '02 and newer ones are on the market for within $2-3k of new... I will buy new with them being that close (likely a Road King). I've seen that somehow folks manage to allegedly drop another $10-12k just on chrome frillys.... I just want a H-D motorcycle, it doesn't need anything else. I laugh when they actually believe it adds value to the bike..... Hello.... I don't think so.... To me it'd be like going and buying 17 more Grady White logos to put on the boat..
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:35 PM
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I was looking at a 2007 V Rod @ Harley of Ocean City on Saturday and it was tricked out with some nice goodies. They were asking $14,000.00 for it. If I'm not mistaken, 2 years ago you couldn't touch one for less than $20,000.
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Old 04-11-2007, 06:55 PM
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Just1more - 4/11/2007 6:35 PM

I was looking at a 2007 V Rod @ Harley of Ocean City on Saturday and it was tricked out with some nice goodies. They were asking $14,000.00 for it. If I'm not mistaken, 2 years ago you couldn't touch one for less than $20,000.
You were mistaken unless the market for V-Rods is much different there.

I've owned two V-Rods, an '03 100th Anniversary, and my present '05 Screamin' Eagle. The SE comes tricked out with about everything you can possibly put on the bike and I added the SE 16GA Double Barrel exhaust and the Harley Race Tuner which is necessary to run the modified exhaust. It has 2k miles on it and I'd sell it for payoff which is about $16,800.

People who don't like V-Rods have never ridden one. Either that or they shouldn't have if they are looking for a touring bike. The SE is one sweet ride, but I just don't need to have it sitting around with everything else going on in my life right now.

Anybody want a tricked Screamin' Eagle V-Rod?
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Yep.... TNFREE has the perfect example of what I'm talkin about... Asking $16,800 for a 4 year old bike, I realize it only has 2k mi and I'm sure perfect.. Point is that's the kind of numbers people want for them, even stock ones.......

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A new V-Rod ranges from $14,995 to a Screamin Eagle version @ $19,995 MSRP.... I like the V-Rod, partially because it will share garage space with my 911... But it's just not the cycle I've always loved.
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Some may add all the extra chrome goodies thinking their making the bike more valuable, but I think most are doing it for themselves. Not much different than you or me adding color chartplotters and fishfinders to our boats, we spend the extra money to get them just the way we want them.

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Old 04-11-2007, 11:18 PM
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Yep.... TNFREE has the perfect example of what I'm talkin about... Asking $16,800 for a 4 year old bike, I realize it only has 2k mi and I'm sure perfect.. Point is that's the kind of numbers people want for them, even stock ones.......

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A new V-Rod ranges from $14,995 to a Screamin Eagle version @ $19,995 MSRP.... I like the V-Rod, partially because it will share garage space with my 911... But it's just not the cycle I've always loved.
Bubba, what are you smoking?

Outside the fact you flunked math class (my Screamin' Eagle is an '05) there ain't no way on God's green Earth you're gonna buy a leftover '06 Screamin' Eagle V-rod for $19,995.00 as the MSRP was around $27K. They only made them in '05 and '06, so I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
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TN FREEBIRD - 4/11/2007 11:18 PM
Bubba, what are you smoking? Outside the fact you flunked math class (my Screamin' Eagle is an '05) there ain't no way on God's green Earth you're gonna buy a leftover '06 Screamin' Eagle V-rod for $19,995.00 as the MSRP was around $27K. They only made them in '05 and '06, so I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
I smoke JR alternatives to Monte Cristo #2's, and on weekend the real ones as well as AVO & Ashton... The only thing I ever did well in school with was Math and English... Sorry if I got you panties bunched up, not my intention..... I notice the guy with "Less than half that" hasn't returned to post.


I can't speak for '05 & '06 models

BUT

from '2007 Harley-Davidson Motorcycles' aka HD's brochure free at any Harley dealer. Page#48 Prices shown are for Black
VRSCD Night Rod - $14,995
VRSCR Street Rod - $15,495
VRSCDX Night Rod Special - $16,495
VRSCAW V-Rod - $16,495
VRSCX (Screamin Eagle) $19,995
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TN FREEBIRD - 4/11/2007 11:18 PM
Bubba, what are you smoking? Outside the fact you flunked math class (my Screamin' Eagle is an '05) there ain't no way on God's green Earth you're gonna buy a leftover '06 Screamin' Eagle V-rod for $19,995.00 as the MSRP was around $27K. They only made them in '05 and '06, so I'm not sure where you are getting your numbers from.
I smoke JR alternatives to Monte Cristo #2's, and on weekend the real ones as well as AVO & Ashton... The only thing I ever did well in school with was Math and English... Sorry if I got you panties bunched up, not my intention..... I notice the guy with "Less than half that" hasn't returned to post.


I can't speak for '05 & '06 models

BUT

from '2007 Harley-Davidson Motorcycles' aka HD's brochure free at any Harley dealer. Page#48 Prices shown are for Black
VRSCD Night Rod - $14,995
VRSCR Street Rod - $15,495
VRSCDX Night Rod Special - $16,495
VRSCAW V-Rod - $16,495
VRSCX (Screamin Eagle) $19,995
No problems with my panties there Bubba, but it looks like we are both a little misinformed over the '07 V-Rod line up. I knew H-D only built the Screamin' Eagle in '05 and '06, but I didn't know they were using the Screamin' Eagle engine on an '07 version of the V-Rod.

I looked at the H-D website just to see what was what, but the VRSCX is not a Screamin' Eagle despite the fact it seems to share the same drivetrain. Other than that, it is not the same bike at all. The Screamin' Eagle doesn't show up on the '06 bikes which are still featured on their website, but the MSRP was around $26-27K as I recall which is what the '05 listed out at as well. It was sort of a give and take deal with the '05 to the '06 with the major difference being the larger rear tire/wheel combo. There were some other differences, but I personally like the '05 better than the '06. Both were limited production bikes, so they will hold their values better than other V-Rods.

No doubt it doesn't help me with selling my '05 Screamin' Eagle as I assume the performance would be the same as on the "07 VRSCX, but you would have to spend a ton of money to bring that bike to where the SE is/was. The SE had a custom paint job as well which could not be duplicated. Harley won't even sell you paint for a SE even if you can prove you own one! I found this out when I was planning to paint my trailer to match the bike. Even the local paint shops couldn't scan the color to give me the formula it would take to duplicate the tri-coat paint job on that bike.

If I ever damage any painted part on that bike, the only way to have it repaired and repainted to the original color is to remove the part and send it back to H-D. God only knows what that would cost!
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I just rode that bike- one of my kid brother's buddies just bought it, and as the groups mechanical shaman, I had to tool it around a bit to proclaim it good(wish I could get that going with their women).

Funny- these are life long Harley guys- most of them had their first harley in their teens-twenties, but one by one they are Cashing out of the Motor Company and going Metric.

Scotty was the first, around '92. He was working consruction, and had a layoff. He knew it would be 3-6 months, and wanted to cruise the US for a few months. Trouble was, his mid-70s shovel was not going to be up to it. It was a nice custom, well cared for, recent rebuild. He took a standing cash offer of 18k for it ( at that point, you could sell an HD by making a phone call), and went an bought a Suzuki Intruder leftover for 6K, and took his ride, the plan being that he'd make his run, come home, sell the Suzk, and buy another harley.

After 4 months, and 125k, you couldn't get him on a harley with rachet straps. He took some hell for it, but as time went on, One by one, his buddies started falling too. They noticed that Scotty's bike always started, always ran, and out ran the Motor Company bikes at the lights and over the road.

Now my Brother is one of the last hold-outs. Out of the eight of them, there are only three Harleys left in the group.
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prodigalson - 4/13/2007 9:22 AM

After 4 months, and 125k,
No flame here but are you sure your math is correct? That would be 43 mph, 24 hours a day, 7 days a week, for 4 months. 12.5K maybe?
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Sorry- should have read, After four months , and 25K.
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prodigalson - 4/13/2007 10:06 AM

Sorry- should have read, After four months , and 25K.
That's still a lot of riding. I only have 10K on my 06 but am going to change that this year.

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