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Old 04-01-2007, 09:11 AM
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Just had this driveway finished yesterday and can't get a word out of the non green card guys that are doing the work. Just thought I would check here as to what is the next step. Do they come back and spread sand over the top and then seal it, or just seal it? I know there is some type a seal that brings out the color more as they tested it on a corner already. What is the sealer? (it gives the bricks a gloss) does it wear away? and doe it require add'l coats every year or so? My contractor is out of the country for a week or so and just wondering...

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Old 04-01-2007, 10:04 AM
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Not having stayed at the Holiday Inn Express last night and not having any real experience with this type of work, I would think that they should be coming back to put sand on top and kinda "squish" it down between the pavers so they won't shift. This advice is gleaned from watching countless home improvement shows in which they always put sand down when they install pavers. As far as a sealer, I don't remember them doing that on the shows, but I'll bet somebody here on the site will have better information. Bet that BMW will look great sitting on that driveway.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:17 AM
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Glen, my neighbor has done the same thing. Once the pavers are put down they throw more sand on the bricks and sweep it into the cracks. They repeat this process several times over a month or so. That's all there is to it. He uses no sealer, just lets them weather. I couldn't tell you if his process is S.O.P. or not but it turns out great. Just be aware that you'll be tracking sand for a while until everything settles in.
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:28 AM
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Glen, just because I know you, I think I can get get away with a little, friendly, "ball-bustin". Didn't you just recently respond to thread about geitting boat yard work done and written estimates with something to the effect of " would you get you driveway paver job done without one? Why wouldn't you do the same with your boat? Well, doesn't the written estimate tell you what you will be getting for the job?


The answer to your question (at least when they did my sister's house is, yes, they should put more sand it after what is in settles, yes there is a "wash" (mild acid I believe) that will clean it up and bring out the color, and yes, there is a sealer, but the sealer can make it slippery for a few weeks.

By the way, detailed the boat yesterday and programmed all the electronics the way I want them (and hopefully that Dad will be able to follow) Have a great day! Too windy for boating, however, I have not ruled out a family oriented afternoon intracoastal cruise (i think my wife has though)
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makosteve66 - 4/1/2007 11:28 AM Glen, just because I know you, I think I can get get away with a little, friendly, "ball-bustin". Didn't you just recently respond to thread about geitting boat yard work done and written estimates with something to the effect of " would you get you driveway paver job done without one? Why wouldn't you do the same with your boat? Well, doesn't the written estimate tell you what you will be getting for the job? The answer to your question (at least when they did my sister's house is, yes, they should put more sand it after what is in settles, yes there is a "wash" (mild acid I believe) that will clean it up and bring out the color, and yes, there is a sealer, but the sealer can make it slippery for a few weeks. By the way, detailed the boat yesterday and programmed all the electronics the way I want them (and hopefully that Dad will be able to follow) Have a great day! Too windy for boating, however, I have not ruled out a family oriented afternoon intracoastal cruise (i think my wife has though)


we got a great detailed estimate but it did not detail the step by step instuctions...as I did not care at the time....and actually just curious as to how they do this...
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:37 AM
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makosteve66 - 4/1/2007 11:28 AM Glen, just because I know you, I think I can get get away with a little, friendly, "ball-bustin". Didn't you just recently respond to thread about geitting boat yard work done and written estimates with something to the effect of " would you get you driveway paver job done without one? Why wouldn't you do the same with your boat? Well, doesn't the written estimate tell you what you will be getting for the job? The answer to your question (at least when they did my sister's house is, yes, they should put more sand it after what is in settles, yes there is a "wash" (mild acid I believe) that will clean it up and bring out the color, and yes, there is a sealer, but the sealer can make it slippery for a few weeks. By the way, detailed the boat yesterday and programmed all the electronics the way I want them (and hopefully that Dad will be able to follow) Have a great day! Too windy for boating, however, I have not ruled out a family oriented afternoon intracoastal cruise (i think my wife has though)


we got a great detailed estimate but it did not detail the step by step instuctions...as I did not care at the time....and actually just curious as to how they do this...
If I read you correctly, the job will be letter perfect when complete, just trying to stir the Sh!t.

I would stay away from the sealer based on my sisters experience, not only was it slick, but it caued dirt to stick to it.
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makosteve66 - 4/1/2007 11:28 AM Glen, just because I know you, I think I can get get away with a little, friendly, "ball-bustin". Didn't you just recently respond to thread about geitting boat yard work done and written estimates with something to the effect of " would you get you driveway paver job done without one? Why wouldn't you do the same with your boat? Well, doesn't the written estimate tell you what you will be getting for the job? The answer to your question (at least when they did my sister's house is, yes, they should put more sand it after what is in settles, yes there is a "wash" (mild acid I believe) that will clean it up and bring out the color, and yes, there is a sealer, but the sealer can make it slippery for a few weeks. By the way, detailed the boat yesterday and programmed all the electronics the way I want them (and hopefully that Dad will be able to follow) Have a great day! Too windy for boating, however, I have not ruled out a family oriented afternoon intracoastal cruise (i think my wife has though)


we got a great detailed estimate but it did not detail the step by step instuctions...as I did not care at the time....and actually just curious as to how they do this...
If I read you correctly, the job will be letter perfect when complete, just trying to stir the Sh!t. I would stay away from the sealer based on my sisters experience, not only was it slick, but it caued dirt to stick to it.


I'm not sure about the sealer either...the small spot they did looks like it could wear off unevenly....my contractor is back later this week - I'll ask...
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Old 04-01-2007, 10:48 AM
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Yes, they should be putting sand over the pavers and sweeping it in and depending on your earth conditions, possibly lightly compacting them.

As for the sealer - that depends on the specific product that was installed.

BTW - look about dead center in the picture and you can see where they broke the bond pattern - probably where they picked up after lunch - I would look for either a credit or have them pull them up to that point and re-lay with the correct pattern.
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:12 AM
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This is anattempt at a Herringbone pattern, I can't pick out the pattern break. I assume where you live in S FL the substrate is similar to here in East Central FL so they should have put down about 6" of lime rock or crushed concrete base and compacted it well for stability. It looks like they mortared the edges, or at least it looks like it at the street on the right. The sand should be spread with a big broom and washed in. This gives stability to the bricks. I put pavers down for my pool deck. To ensure they stayed in place I built a 12" x 12" steel reinforced footer for the edge bricks to set on and they are mortared in place. Generally pavers are only sealed when they aren't used for driveways. Thin pavers are set like tile with wide grout joints and these are commonly sealed to preserve the color. Just out of curiosity, what did they charge per SF in S FL? It's about $6 up here.
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Old 04-01-2007, 11:14 AM
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RI pm'd me.... it was april fools....
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Some of that sand will wash away over time. It's not a bad idea to brush in some more sand every year of so.
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Glen E - 4/1/2007 11:14 AM

RI pm'd me.... it was april fools....
Good one. Before he PM'ed you how long did you stare at the photo?
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We did a brick patio a few years ago and mixed chocolate mortar in the play sand before we swept it in. Had to do it several times to get the cracks full. Seems to be holding up pretty good.
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It's a little hard to tell, but those look like 6"x12" natural travetine pavers maybe Noce color. Like mentioned, they would be typically sanded after installation to "lock" them together then they can be sealed. Depending what type of sealer is used it can enhance the color if you so choose.
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Glen E - 4/1/2007 11:14 AM

RI pm'd me.... it was april fools....
Thats wrong!
But funny...
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Tarpon65 - 4/2/2007 8:16 PM

It's a little hard to tell, but those look like 6"x12" natural travetine pavers maybe Noce color. Like mentioned, they would be typically sanded after installation to "lock" them together then they can be sealed. Depending what type of sealer is used it can enhance the color if you so choose.
tarpon - exactly.... thay are travertine marble pavers with sand to lock them in - contractor called today - will seal later this week....they applied the sand today and everything looks good...
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