Go Back  The Hull Truth - Boating and Fishing Forum > BOATING FORUMS > Dockside Chat
Reload this Page >

Arrested for being unlicensed contractor?

Notices

Arrested for being unlicensed contractor?

Old 05-03-2021, 07:58 AM
  #1  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 488 Likes on 261 Posts
Default Arrested for being unlicensed contractor?

A few months ago, they resumed posting local mugshots and arrests. Since then, I have noticed several people being arrested for "Contracting without a license". Not just fined, but actually arrested and put in jail. I do not ever remember ever seeing this until recently. I wonder if it comes from customer complaints, or sting operations, or just random happenings. Can I get in trouble for using an unlicensed contractor? I wonder what qualifies? Can I paint someone's porch without a license? Change a light bulb? Pressure wash a driveway? Mow the lawn? I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction.
Old 05-03-2021, 07:59 AM
  #2  
mbb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: State of confusion
Posts: 3,649
Received 1,219 Likes on 653 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fish Haid View Post
A few months ago, they resumed posting local mugshots and arrests. Since then, I have noticed several people being arrested for "Contracting without a license". Not just fined, but actually arrested and put in jail. I do not ever remember ever seeing this until recently. I wonder if it comes from customer complaints, or sting operations, or just random happenings. Can I get in trouble for using an unlicensed contractor? I wonder what qualifies? Can I paint someone's porch without a license? Change a light bulb? Pressure wash a driveway? Mow the lawn? I'm sure it varies by jurisdiction.
Yes it varies by jurisdiction, and work being performed.

There's a lot of people out there doing jobs with no licensing or insurance. Even mowing the lawn....... If you run over a baseball in the grass and it flings it and hits somebody in the head and kills them......... You will probably wish you had insurance. I use that as an example because I ran over one one time and it shot out and hit the brick wall of a house 70 ft away...... Like it came out of a pitching machine. That would do a number on a small child.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:01 AM
  #3  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Aug 2011
Posts: 4,095
Likes: 0
Received 404 Likes on 225 Posts
Default

The guy was more than likely rude to the inspector ...
Old 05-03-2021, 08:06 AM
  #4  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,915
Received 671 Likes on 354 Posts
Default

Are you sure they are being handcuffed and haul off to the lock-up?, the issuing of a citation is technically a arrest, you are released by signing the citation.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:08 AM
  #5  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2006
Location: Lower Potomac, VA
Posts: 3,656
Received 486 Likes on 328 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Alureing View Post
The guy was more than likely rude to the inspector ...
Or more likely, a fairly large sum of money (4-5 digits) was involved and someone got ripped off either really bad work or no work at all for money paid.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:13 AM
  #6  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2020
Posts: 390
Received 150 Likes on 89 Posts
Default

My brother and I worked for a GC with 98% of work was Government agencies. He did a job for the Park Service in South Florida. He was on the interstate in a company truck and got pulled and cited for no contractors license Dade/Broward. It was ultimately dropped because he was working on federal property and the judge/court gave him some paper work he carried with him.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:19 AM
  #7  
Senior Member
Thread Starter
 
Join Date: Jan 2012
Posts: 131
Likes: 0
Received 488 Likes on 261 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Reel 007 View Post
Are you sure they are being handcuffed and haul off to the lock-up?, the issuing of a citation is technically a arrest, you are released by signing the citation.
Mugshot published online, wearing the striped pajamas.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:30 AM
  #8  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Apr 2010
Location: Southern California
Posts: 2,915
Received 671 Likes on 354 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Fish Haid View Post
Mugshot published online, wearing the striped pajamas.
Radical!!! ...and needed.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:40 AM
  #9  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Sep 2010
Location: 615
Posts: 3,962
Received 900 Likes on 465 Posts
Default

The one that got my attention was last year. Contractor had an agreement with a homeowner, when work was about half done, the contractor said he was going to need a new contract to offset costs. Homeowner went to the district attorney. BAM!!! Welcome to the house of many doors.

I remember it because (unfortunately), when we contracted for repairs after tornadoes in March last year; our contractor pulled the same stunt with less than half the work done. He actually threatened me with a lien. I sent everything to the State District Attorney. Turns out this guy wasn't even licensed in our State. Don't know if they went after him, but I wouldn't be surprised if there's a warrant and I've not seen ANY of his company's vehicles or personnel around here.

Yes, shame on me for not doing better due diligence. He got me when I wasn't thinking; too busy swinging a chainsaw. Lesson learned.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:41 AM
  #10  
Senior MemberCaptains Club MemberPLEDGER
 
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Suburb of Sugar Tit SC
Posts: 14,988
Received 9,516 Likes on 5,164 Posts
Default

Don't see that often, but around here that's typically reserved for folks misleading customers regarding their license/insurance/bond status. Often previously licensed folks who have not keep current on the bills associated with being licensed.
Old 05-03-2021, 08:52 AM
  #11  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Mar 2016
Posts: 1,184
Received 483 Likes on 277 Posts
Default

Usually cases like this are a result of the contractor taking money “to buy material” and then not finishing the work. Or the work is done poorly and the contractor won’t offer a refund. Or some other type of financial damage done by the contractor.


Old 05-03-2021, 09:01 AM
  #12  
KBH
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: West Palm Beach, FL
Posts: 2,295
Received 820 Likes on 471 Posts
Default

I remember more than once in South Florida where a task force was going around to local job sites asking for building permits, contractor's license and insurance. If you were found to be illegally working you went to jail. No citations and no excuses.

Old 05-03-2021, 09:03 AM
  #13  
Senior MemberCaptains Club Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2007
Location: Winterville & MHC, NC
Posts: 5,094
Received 638 Likes on 332 Posts
Default

It doesnt happen often but it does happen. If a licensed GC is arrested it is likely due to the licensing board getting multiple complaints and/or ignoring remedies prescribed by the board.

Contractor does something, board suspends license, contractor continues working anyways, board can have him arrested and fined.

The board is also fairly serious about pursuing people claiming to be a GC when they aren’t, as in not actually licensed.

This is in NC, but I assume other states are similar.

As a homeowner, you have recourse against a GC not performing work as agreed upon. You should also verify license number and proof of insurance with any licensed trade hired, from an electrician to a GC. Protect yourselves. The good ones will happily provide all of the info for verification. I’ve only been asked once, but it was easy enough. I am sure I have been verified online though.

As far as renegotiating a contract..... not sure about that without an amendment. I include an escalation clause for increases in material cost. Wasn’t a thing until the last year.
Old 05-03-2021, 09:21 AM
  #14  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sunny florida
Posts: 25,524
Received 5,505 Likes on 3,518 Posts
Default

Unlicensed contracting is a felony in Florida. Not unpermitted, unlicensed. And that means properly licensed for the trade you are working on.

IF (big if) you contract for work requiring a license. the person performs the work and is not properly licensed, you don't have to pay them. An illegal contract is unenforceable.
Old 05-03-2021, 09:24 AM
  #15  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sunny florida
Posts: 25,524
Received 5,505 Likes on 3,518 Posts
Default

[QUOTE=usernamewastaken;14693482]My brother and I worked for a GC with 98% of work was Government agencies. He did a job for the Park Service in South Florida. He was on the interstate in a company truck and got pulled and cited for no contractors license Dade/Broward. It was ultimately dropped because he was working on federal property and the judge/court gave him some paper work he carried with him.[/QUOTE

You ONLY have to register IF you are performing work in that jurisdiction. My license allows me to work anywhere in the state, but I'm sure as hell not registering in every jurisdiction I drive thru!
Old 05-03-2021, 09:29 AM
  #16  
mbb
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: State of confusion
Posts: 3,649
Received 1,219 Likes on 653 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
Unlicensed contracting is a felony in Florida. Not unpermitted, unlicensed. And that means properly licensed for the trade you are working on.

IF (big if) you contract for work requiring a license. the person performs the work and is not properly licensed, you don't have to pay them. An illegal contract is unenforceable.

When there's a big hurricane, contractors from out of state flood in....... And they're basically allowed to work..... A blind eye is turned because there's not enough local contractors to stabilize the dwellings. They can't even issue permits at first. But after a few weeks..... Or in some cases months..... They get the permit system up and running.... Inspectors are driving around and know their areas, and the buildings damaged in it. And then the outside contractors have to get out and the pace of recovery slows to a crawl.

Rule of thumb, get your building repaired as soon as possible after a hurricane......... Because if you don't it may be months or even years.

If they are licensed contractor in another state don't worry about it..... Pay them cash.... Get it fixed. ASAP. Particularly if you're not waiting on insurance. Under deductible, etc. Or maybe it's just new roof you need an insurance cuts you a check.

Last edited by mbb; 05-03-2021 at 09:35 AM.
Old 05-03-2021, 09:34 AM
  #17  
Senior Member
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Sunny florida
Posts: 25,524
Received 5,505 Likes on 3,518 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by mbb View Post
When there's a big hurricane, contractors from out of state flood in....... And they're basically allowed to work..... A blind eye is turned because there's not enough local contractors to stabilize the dwellings. They can't even issue permits at first. But after a few weeks..... Or in some cases months..... They get the permit system up and running.... Inspectors are driving around and know their areas, and the buildings damaged in it. And then the outside contractors have to get out and the pace of recovery slows to a crawl.

Rule of thumb, get your building repaired as soon as possible after a hurricane......... Because if you don't it may be months or even years
Exactly. Out of state roofers came in, "repaired" roofs, roofs starting leaking again in a few months, "contractors" were long gone.
Old 05-03-2021, 09:35 AM
  #18  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 3,973
Received 3,686 Likes on 1,678 Posts
Default

Originally Posted by Misterfu02 View Post
Usually cases like this are a result of the contractor taking money “to buy material” and then not finishing the work. Or the work is done poorly and the contractor won’t offer a refund. Or some other type of financial damage done by the contractor.
I have seen this happen in NC but its after the guy has screwed a dozen customers. I have only seen it happen when there is a pattern. with COVID inspecters are not even going on site for some things so I am going to go with there is more to the story than the guy got pinched.
Old 05-03-2021, 09:57 AM
  #19  
Admirals Club Admiral's Club Member
 
Join Date: Oct 2016
Location: Eastern NC
Posts: 834
Received 619 Likes on 314 Posts
Default

Yeah, he ripped somebody off. In NC, you have to be licensed for anything over 30k.
Old 05-03-2021, 10:01 AM
  #20  
Junior Member
 
Join Date: Nov 2016
Posts: 24
Received 13 Likes on 6 Posts
Default

I spend a lot of money and time making sure I am licensed and insured. I would be pissed to have work taken away from those of us who do the right thing. With that said, I don’t think jail is the answer. I would love to see enormous fines, but not jail.


I am going to guess this is happening in California?

Thread Tools
Search this Thread

Contact Us - Archive - Advertising - Cookie Policy - Privacy Statement - Terms of Service - Do Not Sell My Personal Information -

Copyright © 2021 MH Sub I, LLC dba Internet Brands. All rights reserved. Use of this site indicates your consent to the Terms of Use.