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Is there a difference between an economical no name welding stick and a premium priced brand name welding stick?
I've got'ta figure it's got to be in the flux? Does the premium brand stick clean up easier or there is less chance of flux pockets in the weld???
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If you’re welding important stuff like gas or steam piping, any high pressure or X-ray stuff, I’d stick with Lincoln, Hobart, Esab, etc... if you’re welding junk stuff, you can go cheap. What brand are you thinking?
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Originally Posted by sharktripper View Post
If you’re welding important stuff like gas or steam piping, any high pressure or X-ray stuff, I’d stick with Lincoln, Hobart, Esab, etc... if you’re welding junk stuff, you can go cheap. What brand are you thinking?
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When you weld for a living like I used to do, the difference in stick welding rods is noticed as soon as you strike the arc.
Premium brands like Lincoln, ESAB, Eutectic, Hobart "burn" consistent and have good control over the weld puddle.
Cheaper stick rods don't burn with a smooth arc and it's sometimes hard to control the weld puddle.
Lincoln electrodes were my go-to brand and the 7018 Excalibur rods are industry standard for critical welds.

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It all depends on what you are welding. Are you welding fresh metal? Are you welding something previously painted or rusted, vertical, horizontal, upside-down? Base metal cast, cold rolled. mills finish?

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Don’t go cheap on rod
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40 years in the business, at home on what ever get the cheep stuff. On the job, let them furnish the rods. All that shit is high as Geraff pussy right now
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A few years ago I hired a very colorful union welder to put up some W8x28 beams for garage decks over basements. He was running low on rods so I stoped by the LWS and picked up what they had.

Out of the corner of my eye I see him struggling with the first rod, tries another, when the third one isn’t working right the entire container goes airborne landing three foundations over. He climbs down walks over to the ladder and walks to his truck cursing. Comes back a hour later with new Lincoln rods.

End of the day he walks over an goes don’t buy any more F’ing Walmart rods ok. Good old Wayne the welder. Many a comical days on a job site with him.
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Good brand name rod and a pre heater / dryer .
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Interesting..........maybe my welding skills aren't as bad as they appear.
I'll get the name latter today.
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Cheap Chinese welding rods - Powerweld.
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Originally Posted by muskamoot View Post
Good brand name rod and a pre heater / dryer .
Good advice. I think 6010 shouldn't be heated over 90 degrees or something according to Lincoln if I remember right. Not to be kept with your 7018's in hot oven.
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Originally Posted by Forgotten Coast 1 View Post
40 years in the business, at home on what ever get the cheep stuff. On the job, let them furnish the rods. All that shit is high as Geraff pussy right now
Geraff pussy? Need an explanation on that one.
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Hang on....Giraffe? got it
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I am pretty much a reasonably skilled home welder, but, good rods make a big difference on decent welds.
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depends on the quality of the welds you are after is #1 when choosing rods , next is slag , how easily it peels when welding , some cheap rods use shit flux and it grabs the weld and takes a lot to chip back.

i would go with a mid to high quality GP rod only for the fact that i like the way the slag cleans up. and they start up on most angles and surface easy ., FWIW , i choose stick over mig for any welding i do , best rods i buy here are CIG gp ( cant think of the number off hand ).
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I have found over the years that some rods perform better than others, even among name brands. Make sure you match the rods to voltage (AC,DC) and the recommended polarity if using DC
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satincraft 13 ,had to go out to the shed and look at the box , see what getting old does , iv ben using these rods for everything fo years .
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And this is why I do pretty well 100% of the welding that's within the scope of my abilities with a flux core machine.
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Are you using a AC machine or DC machine?

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