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Old 04-28-2021, 02:06 PM
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https://www.npr.org/2021/04/28/99158...-elephant-hunt
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Where's Dick Cheney when you need him...
Old 04-28-2021, 02:36 PM
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How many NRA member annual dues did that fiasco cost?
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Originally Posted by edwardh1 View Post

Gotta kill the elephants to save the elephants.

And how can that old fart miss an elephant? Its like shooting a dump truck. Kinda like bowling, there ain't exactly much "sport" in it.
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Pretty stupid given the current climate. Poor look.

note: did not read the article and I know some elephants are occasionally taken for a variety of necessary reasons, which in turn generates income.
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This happened in 2012. Not a great look but some elephants need killin’.
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Typical boomer, tool hasnít been sharp in years. We should treat them like the elephants and put them down for the good of society.
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It was permitted and legal. He was not very good at it. end of story
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Originally Posted by crimsongulf54 View Post
It was permitted and legal. He was not very good at it. end of story

There's a lot of stuff that's "permitted and legal" in other countries like kid touching/porn, bribery, opium smoking...doesn't mean you should run out and do it.

Jebus, if your moral compass is getting it's true north from "what's legal" in whatever shithole country you happen to be in, we are screwed.
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It was 2012....... amazing the ignorance.
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Ok, so all you guys up on your high horse passing judgement on a guy killing an elephant in 2012 should perhaps consider what happens when NPR or PETA or NatGeo does an article on catching and murdering fish for recreational purposes. After all, thereís really no reason to partake in this activity, right? I mean, we can all buy tilapia down at the Publix. Why do we need big boats with expensive electronics to go torture fish every weekend?

And for what itís worth, I donít belong to the NRA, Iím not defending Wayne LaPierres hunting/shooting skills, nor do I have any desire to go kill an elephant. But as an avid outdoorsman and sportsman, Iíll defend someone elseís right to do so if itís legal, sustainable, and provides some type of benefit. Maybe the fees he paid to hunt these elephants fed that village for a year. Maybe the elephant was old and needed to be taken out if the herd.

If youíre on this site, youíre likely a boater, fisherman, outdoorsman, and/or hunter. Maybe all of the above. We should be sticking together or weíll eventually all be cancelled in this politically correct culture. Iím not sure what the motivation is for posting a video from 10 years ago of a bad elephant hunt, but itís not really relevant now. Maybe the OP can post up some pictures of some of Teddy Rooseveltís or Ernest Hemingwayís safari hunts next.



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Originally Posted by Marlin308 View Post
Ok, so all you guys up on your high horse passing judgement on a guy killing an elephant in 2012 should perhaps consider what happens when NPR or PETA or NatGeo does an article on catching and murdering fish for recreational purposes. After all, thereís really no reason to partake in this activity, right? I mean, we can all buy tilapia down at the Publix. Why do we need big boats with expensive electronics to go torture fish every weekend?

And for what itís worth, I donít belong to the NRA, Iím not defending Wayne LaPierres hunting/shooting skills, nor do I have any desire to go kill an elephant. But as an avid outdoorsman and sportsman, Iíll defend someone elseís right to do so if itís legal, sustainable, and provides some type of benefit. Maybe the fees he paid to hunt these elephants fed that village for a year. Maybe the elephant was old and needed to be taken out if the herd.

If youíre on this site, youíre likely a boater, fisherman, outdoorsman, and/or hunter. Maybe all of the above. We should be sticking together or weíll eventually all be cancelled in this politically correct culture. Iím not sure what the motivation is for posting a video from 10 years ago of a bad elephant hunt, but itís not really relevant now. Maybe the OP can post up some pictures of some of Teddy Rooseveltís or Ernest Hemingwayís safari hunts next.
Spot on at every point, problem is there are some that will never see the light, Luckly there are more currently that see the value in harvesting animals that in turn aid the hurd and the village.
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Originally Posted by Marlin308 View Post
Ok, so all you guys up on your high horse passing judgement on a guy killing an elephant in 2012 should perhaps consider what happens when NPR or PETA or NatGeo does an article on catching and murdering fish for recreational purposes. After all, thereís really no reason to partake in this activity, right? I mean, we can all buy tilapia down at the Publix. Why do we need big boats with expensive electronics to go torture fish every weekend?

And for what itís worth, I donít belong to the NRA, Iím not defending Wayne LaPierres hunting/shooting skills, nor do I have any desire to go kill an elephant. But as an avid outdoorsman and sportsman, Iíll defend someone elseís right to do so if itís legal, sustainable, and provides some type of benefit. Maybe the fees he paid to hunt these elephants fed that village for a year. Maybe the elephant was old and needed to be taken out if the herd.

If youíre on this site, youíre likely a boater, fisherman, outdoorsman, and/or hunter. Maybe all of the above. We should be sticking together or weíll eventually all be cancelled in this politically correct culture. Iím not sure what the motivation is for posting a video from 10 years ago of a bad elephant hunt, but itís not really relevant now. Maybe the OP can post up some pictures of some of Teddy Rooseveltís or Ernest Hemingwayís safari hunts next.
Well said brother!
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If you eat meat, have leather/suede ANYTHING and use a variety of everyday items that are made from animal by-products, then STFU!!!

The hunt was from 2012 but that has NOTHING to do with anything, if it happened yesterday and it was a totally legal, permitted, bought and paid for hunt then what's the problem? Is a shooting a trophy deer in the states ANY different? YES you say??? Ok then let's hear how an elephant's life is anymore valuable than a whitetail deers life, in fact are they worth anymore or less than your own pets at home...???

Legal trophy hunting in Africa is NOT responsible for the decline of ANY of the animals over there! In fact many species over there that are threatened or endangered would actually be fully extinct were it not for the money that is generated from trophy hunting that has allowed game managers and scientists over there to study and better understand said species & actually protect the few animals left. A trophy elephant hunt is a six figure hunt. How many "photo safari's" does it take to equal that same amount of $$$ for that poverty stricken economy over there? Ever actually seen how many local villagers walk MILES to totally clean off an elephant carcass within hours of it hitting the ground? Pretty impressive undertaking in a "primitive culture" like the remote bush.

POACHING is driven by the illegal ivory trade & THAT is what has most decimated the elephant and rhino's. Blame the entirety of east Asia for that one, NOT trophy hunters!!!
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LaPierre always seemed to me a money guy, a salesman and a frontman...not a gun guy. I'll give him credit for building up the organization. But power corrupts and a lot of money was spent on caviar and Champaign.
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Got a friend thatís shot and killed most big game in Africa, even took his daughter on a plains hunt. Nothing goes on social media and I do mean nothing. You have a trophy room that you show to the people you want to see it.

Itís a big source of income for the locals that guild/pack/camp attendance ect. Heavily regulated.

He did nothing wrong in my books
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Got no problem with it. Question is a rifle that has a scope dialed in for a 100-150 yards still accurate at 6 yards? I only bow hunt or shoot birds with a shotgun.
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Ted Nugent killed one on his show years ago. .375 HH Magnum to the brain. Dropped right there and didn't flinch. Seems like the villagers ate it???
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Originally Posted by Marlin308 View Post
Ok, so all you guys up on your high horse passing judgement on a guy killing an elephant in 2012 should perhaps consider what happens when NPR or PETA or NatGeo does an article on catching and murdering fish for recreational purposes. After all, thereís really no reason to partake in this activity, right? I mean, we can all buy tilapia down at the Publix. Why do we need big boats with expensive electronics to go torture fish every weekend?

And for what itís worth, I donít belong to the NRA, Iím not defending Wayne LaPierres hunting/shooting skills, nor do I have any desire to go kill an elephant. But as an avid outdoorsman and sportsman, Iíll defend someone elseís right to do so if itís legal, sustainable, and provides some type of benefit. Maybe the fees he paid to hunt these elephants fed that village for a year. Maybe the elephant was old and needed to be taken out if the herd.

If youíre on this site, youíre likely a boater, fisherman, outdoorsman, and/or hunter. Maybe all of the above. We should be sticking together or weíll eventually all be cancelled in this politically correct culture. Iím not sure what the motivation is for posting a video from 10 years ago of a bad elephant hunt, but itís not really relevant now. Maybe the OP can post up some pictures of some of Teddy Rooseveltís or Ernest Hemingwayís safari hunts next.
Excellent post.

Thanks,

Sidney
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Most elephants get killed by poachers for their ivory which goes to Asia. Stop that market and there will be too many elephants.

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