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Old 04-19-2021, 05:39 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Just spoke to my well guy. He thinks the pump is overheating and eventually turns itself off. He is going to inspect the controller and see what is happening and fix whatever problem he finds. When he drilled the well he told me he will 100% support it......looks like he stands behind his work.
Thought about that. Pump is water cooled.
Old 04-19-2021, 06:23 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Back from the farm and still perplexed. The 5 gallon bucket test showed 15 gph ..... tested 4 times from the spigot located on the water tank.

Tested the oscillating sprinkler and it did fine for 20 to 25 minutes and then went into economy mode ..... and eventually was barely working. The tank showed approx 35 psi. During the first 20 minutes the pressure would top out at 55. The psi would steadily drop to 35, the pump would cycle and we were back to 55. . I was surprised how quickly the tank psi dropped from 55 to 35. With everything closed the tank held at 50 psi.

I replaced the 3/4" spigots with 1/2" spigots. The problem persisted. Additionally, I noticed dropping to 1/2" stopped the spigot from leaking. I snugged down the hose to the spigot, with the 3/4" supply, and water leaked.

I am calling my well guy tomorrow..

so the tank pressure is dropping when the problem shows up.
you lied to us.

sounds like the pump kicks on about 35 psi and off at 55 and then back in at 35 again over and over
How quickly does that happen( on/off/on/off ) while the sprinkler is running?

if the tank is water logged, it will cycle too quickly,
and the pump motor is started too many times within a period of time ,it over heats do to the starting current. or maybe the controller will not allow but just so many starts within a specific period of time to protect it.

the air pad has been lost and needs to be recharged.
. turn off the pump breaker, & drain the tank
you will need to open a fitting at the top of tank or use compressed air to allow all of the water to drain out.

once the water level is at the outlet to the water pipe heading away from tank, close off everything and pressure up the tank with air to about 30 psi and then turn the pump back on

a tank with an air bladder will not loose it air charge since the water is not in contact with the air so it cannot absorb the air, depleting it.
yours does not look like one with a bladder

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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
so the tank pressure is dropping when the problem shows up.
you lied to us.

sounds like the pump kicks on about 35 psi and off at 55 and then back in at 35 again over and over
How quickly does that happen( on/off/on/off ) while the sprinkler is running?

if the tank is water logged, it will cycle too quickly,
and the pump motor is started too many times within a period of time ,it over heats do to the starting current. or maybe the controller will not allow but just so many starts within a specific period of time to protect it.

the air pad has been lost and needs to be recharged.
. turn off the pump breaker, & drain the tank
you will need to open a fitting at the top of tank or use compressed air to allow all of the water to drain out.

once the water level is at the outlet to the water pipe heading away from tank, close off everything and pressure up the tank with air to about 30 psi and then turn the pump back on

a tank with an air bladder will not loose it air charge since the water is not in contact with the air so it cannot absorb the air, depleting it.
yours does not look like one with a bladder
I "lied"?

Anyway, I will report back after I receive the well guy's advice. Thanks for the input.
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
I "lied"?

Anyway, I will report back after I receive the well guy's advice. Thanks for the input.
seems to me you wrote:
Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Well tank pressure stays above 35 to 40 psi. I believe I have a 1hp well pump located approx 100ft from the surface.
and now you wrote:
Tested the oscillating sprinkler and it did fine for 20 to 25 minutes and then went into economy mode ..... and eventually was barely working.
so I take that as the pressure did not stay above 35 and 40
and I have no idea what economy mode is suppose to mean

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Old 04-19-2021, 05:17 PM
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Just spoke to my well guy. He thinks the pump is overheating and eventually turns itself off. He is going to inspect the controller and see what is happening and fix whatever problem he finds. When he drilled the well he told me he will 100% support it......looks like he stands behind his work.
If the pump is overheating, it's either running out of water and running in air because the water level is dropping or it could be drawing high amperage. Do you have a clamp-on multimeter to check the amperage and compare it against the FLA of the pump? The pump could overheat and the klixon (thermal protector) in the motor opens up and turns off the pump. If you're running out of water, I wonder if the pump could be set lower, so that it always under water.

Good luck with solving your mystery. Please keep us updated.
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Well, what did your well guy have to say
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Well, I guess this is another thread that will not be finished with a report of what was actually wrong
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Relax Grasshopper. I will report after my well guy tells me what needs to be fixed.
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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
so are you saying the pressure does not drop when you said it did after some time running the sprinkler?
that does not make much sense

"When attached to a sprinkler the water pressure is great. After a while it drops pretty dramatically. This happened to two different sprinklers. Turn it off, turn it back on and it works until it doesn't."

you need to find out what pump you have and how much it can pump and how much water your sprinklers use.
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and herein lies the answer....
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
Relax Grasshopper. I will report after my well guy tells me what needs to be fixed.
looks like your well guy has left you high and dry
did you even tell him that the pump was cycling to fast when you called him?
maybe he would just tell you to add some air to the tank.

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If you run the sprinkler a lot, you should get the cycle stop valve. You're "well guy" probably won't recomend it, because he doesn't understand it, and I doubt he's an engineer.
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My well guy is coming to the farm tomorrow. Will report the findings.
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
My well guy is coming to the farm tomorrow. Will report the findings.
should have heard something by now
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I was told the sniffer value and back flow preventer were replaced yesterday. Today I will see if that solved the problem.
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WELL, it's about time something was reported back !

How's those blue sneakers holding up ?
Old 04-28-2021, 07:28 AM
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post
I was told the sniffer value and back flow preventer were replaced yesterday. Today I will see if that solved the problem.
I am not sure what a sniffer value is.

maybe it has to do with adding a little slug of air into the tank each time the pump kick on,
to keep the tank from water logging (loosing the air pad on top of the water in tank.)
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Originally Posted by 99yam40 View Post
I am not sure what a sniffer value is.

maybe it has to do with adding a little slug of air into the tank each time the pump kick on,
to keep the tank from water logging (loosing the air pad on top of the water in tank.)
Yes, it looks like a Schrader valve but the spring is really weak to allow it to suck air in. People sometimes replace them with a Schrader not knowing the difference and it defeats the purpose.
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Originally Posted by houtxfisher View Post
Yes, it looks like a Schrader valve but the spring is really weak to allow it to suck air in. People sometimes replace them with a Schrader not knowing the difference and it defeats the purpose.
The value failed and the pipe was holding water from the pump to the tank. The sprinkler has been running for approx 30 minutes so far without a problem
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WELL, it's about time something was reported back !

How's those blue sneakers holding up ?


Blue sneakers?
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Originally Posted by Tireless View Post


Blue sneakers?
Years ago , well maybe not that long ago. You used to post up some fishin / boat pictures and there were always a pair of Blue sneakers in them. We had fun with that for awhile.

Getting ragged for response made me think of that for some reason .

Sort of like lighten up Clarence .

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