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Old 04-15-2021, 06:34 AM
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Frame HandCrafted 6061 Aluminum with replaceable derailleur hanger and H2O bosses
Fork SunTour SF11-M3010AL, ALLOY SILVER CROWN,ALLOY BRACE SUSPENSION FORK, Aluminum Alloy CROWN
Stem/Headset Kalloy Aluminum ADJUSTABLE ANGLE QUILL:180mm long, EXT:16"ML*90mm, 18"ML/ 20"M/ 22"M*110mm, / Ball Bearing STEEL,Chrome Polished, ID25.4
Derailleurs FRONT, SHIMANO FD-TZ31 31.8MM DOWN PULL/ REAR, SHIMANO ACERA RDM360SGSL SILVER
Shifters/ Cassette SHIMANO ST-EF51 SILVER 21-SP. / SHIMANO MF-TZ31 14-34T-7 INDEX
Brakes/ Levers C.STAR ALLOY SILVER V-BRAKE LINEAR PULL / Shimano
Hubs ALLOY QR, 21-Speed
Rims 700c wheels KENDA 700x38C BLACK A/V K-184
Crank/Bottom Bracket SR SUNTOUR 28/38/48T,SILVER CRANK, W/BLACK C.G,W/CAPLESS BOLT, ALL SIZES-170L / SEALED BALL BEARING
Saddle/Grips Special Spring-Web with Comfort Channel / Comfort Kraton
Seatpost/ Handlebar HL SP-91 350MM ALLOY SILVER Comfort-SUSPENSION / Medium Rise 640x80x6D, 25.4mm
Pedals/Chain 9/16" BORON AXLE, KRATON Inserts / KMC Z-72 1/2"*3/32"
Tires 700c wheels KENDA 700x38C BLACK A/V K-184
Colors As Shown in pull down menu
Sizes See pull down menu
NOTE: Ladies frames have a "step-through" design with a lowered top tube Extras FREE Bonus - CENTER TYPE Kickstand

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Bike prices (and availability) are just STUPID... this is about the best I could find... I'm sorta cart-before-horse because I already have it coming, but I thought I'd ask before I go through the hassle of assembly. LOL. And, please, no "LBS" comments. I did that for my own bike. Nice experience, but I could have done far better. But that's a different conversation.
Old 04-15-2021, 06:54 AM
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Looks like an entry level gravel bike. The shops up here are getting new inventory frequently. I still say support a local bike shop. Being able to drop it off for a quick adjustment as cables stretch is worthwhile.

Edit - I'll add, that I wouldn't buy a bike online for your wife if you are looking at riding long distances as you have mentioned in the past. Proper fit is important.
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is there a make model of the bike or do we just get a list of parts to judge buy?
Old 04-15-2021, 07:07 AM
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Personally I don't care for aluminum frames.
Do you need a suspension fork? Where are you going to be doing most of your riding?
Is that your price point, $300?
Have you tried ebay?
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Looks like lower end parts to be honest. If you are just wanting a bike to ride on some bike paths with, it will work, but you will probably have to spend some time making adjustments every so often. My first mountain bike was specked similar and after every ride, I would spend and hour working on fixing the derailers and brakes etc. It's probably a step above a Walmart bike, but not a higher end bike at all.
You could probably get a much better used bike if you take a look at market place.
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Not knowing anything about who this bike is intended for and what the use will be, I agree with others, this is a low-end bike. There is nothing wrong with an aluminum frame, but the components listed here are well below those you would find on a bike sold by a bike shop, and built to withstand regular use. If availability of new bikes is an issue in your area, search through Facebook Marketplace or a regional biking club or forum for a used bike. I live outside of DC and there are daily new listings for bikes on our local page ("DC Used Bicycle Marketplace"). You should be able to find a well-spec'd bike that will serve your needs much better than this one.
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Entry level bike that it fine for how most people use their bikes.
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Its a $400-$500 entry level bike
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The above listed bike is a list of parts posted on a webpage, and not slowing me down on my way to the bar after work. I declare it to be an absolutely perfect example of a bike.
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I'm smart enough to know that the "brand" of the bike is worthless they are all built in the same couple of factories... the components matter, hence why I listed the components. It's ok not agree with that. I know a lot of people love to go to the LBS and buy a $3000 Specialized because that's what their friends do. I totally get it. That's not what we're after. We don't wear spandex - but we do ride around 200 miles a month, which isn't much. But it's enough. Our usual rides are 40-50 miles. Mostly urban and gravel.

I compared these components to my wife's Giant and many are the same parts... There is no "Wal-Mart" bike that uses those parts... and I haven't found a single bike for under $400 that uses those parts. If you can find one, that's great. My current bike is a Jamis from a LBS. Nice bike and I "got fitted" etc. And what I learned is that most of that is complete LBS-speak bullcrap. It comes down to how YOU are comfortable riding. I've modified my bike for me, I like to ride a certain way. As do each of my kids and wife. Hence why I asked to not bother with the LBS talk. They're very nice, God Bless them... now that I can do my own work, I'm good.

Onward...

Here's a link to the bike:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/rover2.htm

Here's the link to reviews on ScamAmazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Windsor-Hybri...GK2?th=1&psc=1

If you can find a better bike dollar-for-dollar... I'd love to hear about it. I couldn't.
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Originally Posted by FASTFJR View Post
Its a $400-$500 entry level bike
Hehe. "Entry level" is a $149 @ Walmart... but yes, it is a $399 bike.
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Pete - you seem to have it all figured out.

If you want a Giant, which will have some level of support from a local shop, here is a women's specific design with similar specs for not much more. https://www.liv-cycling.com/us/rove-4-dd-2021

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Low end components. It is a low end bike.
Medium usually starts much higher in price.

That is not to say that it isn't rideable.
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Originally Posted by OldPete View Post
I'm smart enough to know that the "brand" of the bike is worthless they are all built in the same couple of factories... the components matter, hence why I listed the components. It's ok not agree with that. I know a lot of people love to go to the LBS and buy a $3000 Specialized because that's what their friends do. I totally get it. That's not what we're after. We don't wear spandex - but we do ride around 200 miles a month, which isn't much. But it's enough. Our usual rides are 40-50 miles. Mostly urban and gravel.

I compared these components to my wife's Giant and many are the same parts... There is no "Wal-Mart" bike that uses those parts... and I haven't found a single bike for under $400 that uses those parts. If you can find one, that's great. My current bike is a Jamis from a LBS. Nice bike and I "got fitted" etc. And what I learned is that most of that is complete LBS-speak bullcrap. It comes down to how YOU are comfortable riding. I've modified my bike for me, I like to ride a certain way. As do each of my kids and wife. Hence why I asked to not bother with the LBS talk. They're very nice, God Bless them... now that I can do my own work, I'm good.

Onward...

Here's a link to the bike:
http://www.bikesdirect.com/products/windsor/rover2.htm

Here's the link to reviews on ScamAmazon:
https://www.amazon.com/Windsor-Hybri...GK2?th=1&psc=1

If you can find a better bike dollar-for-dollar... I'd love to hear about it. I couldn't.
I am confused. You asked for opinions. You got opinions you don't like. You know everything and don't need us anyway. Why are we here?
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Seems like a decent bike for cruising around. And if its available, buy it quick as there is a huge bike shortage as you already know.
The only drawback on this bike is the threaded stem. Very limited options for any mod there.
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Originally Posted by paulyjsob View Post
Seems like a decent bike for cruising around. And if its available, buy it quick as there is a huge bike shortage as you already know.
The only drawback on this bike is the threaded stem. Very limited options for any mod there.
I caught that stem too!... and yes, I learned that the hard way. It should be OK, but that's the info I was looking for. Thank you.

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I am confused. You asked for opinions. You got opinions you don't like. You know everything and don't need us anyway. Why are we here?
Because I listed components and wanted input on the components, not typical THT BS "Low end" "Mid tier" etc. That's all subjective silly-talk. There are bikes that are $100 @ Walmart and there are bike at the LBS for $10k So does that mean that $5k is "mid-tier"? I mean, how silly is that level of thinking? Hence why I discounted those comments. They are worthless.

What I was looking for was input on the specific comments, "Hey, that hanger has been a problem" or "That's a pretty good trigger shifter, but you might want to read about xyz."

You know, tangible thoughts, not silly-babble.

Another example, is that I'm reading the seat posts "pogo style" (I think that's LBS-speak?) can be problematic. So I might want to look into that?

In short - to answer you directly: You didn't have anything offer. So why post?
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Originally Posted by Sprockets View Post
Pete - you seem to have it all figured out.

If you want a Giant, which will have some level of support from a local shop, here is a women's specific design with similar specs for not much more. https://www.liv-cycling.com/us/rove-4-dd-2021
Love you to death man, I hear that you're a good guy. But I never, not once, said the bike was a woman's bike, and the links I posted even show the bike... so... there's that.
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The fact that the frame has a derailleur hanger is a huge plus at this price point.
The drivetrain should be totally fine and easily adjustable.
The fork on there if a novelty... Don't expect much from it.
Fine bike to enjoy bike paths.

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I caught that stem too!... and yes, I learned that the hard way. It should be OK, but that's the info I was looking for. Thank you.



Because I listed components and wanted input on the components, not typical THT BS "Low end" "Mid tier" etc. That's all subjective silly-talk. There are bikes that are $100 @ Walmart and there are bike at the LBS for $10k So does that mean that $5k is "mid-tier"? I mean, how silly is that level of thinking? Hence why I discounted those comments. They are worthless.

What I was looking for was input on the specific comments, "Hey, that hanger has been a problem" or "That's a pretty good trigger shifter, but you might want to read about xyz."

You know, tangible thoughts, not silly-babble.

Another example, is that I'm reading the seat posts "pogo style" (I think that's LBS-speak?) can be problematic. So I might want to look into that?

In short - to answer you directly: You didn't have anything offer. So why post?
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actually I believe your initial description does have "woman's step through frame' in it. -- hmm guess it just says Ladies frames have it.

that said, I have a trail bike with many of the same or similar components. it is fine to ride all day on. has done many 20-40 mile rides and has not failed me yet.
you don't need a custom built / sized / and colored bike to go for a ride. the components you listed are fine for many years of service.
there are many people out there who would think Hooollly Hell that's a lot of bike. just depends on what level of rider you are.


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Thanks guys. Yeah... up until a couple years ago, a bike over $200 would never happen. This one, albeit far too big, is for my son. We are now having a lot of fun riding the train to some crazy-far place, and then riding home. It has opened up the places to explore like crazy (at least in South Florida, it sure has!)

If anyone reading this rides in S. Florida... check out the options with the Tri-Rail... and then, if you want to really heat it up, check out Tri-Rail>MetroRail and places along Biscayne, etc. Really neat places to explore.

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