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Old 02-07-2007, 03:42 PM
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Guys,

My LF is a photo nut and I was considering purchasing one of these portable photo storage devices for her B-Day.

http://www.dpreview.com/news/0603/06...epsonp4500.asp


Any photo experts out there that would recommend such a storage device? or would the novelty wear off ?

FWIW, we do not own IPOD's.

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Today, everyone with a digital camera cell phone is a "photo expert".

Dpreview.com is an outstanding resource. If they say it is good, it is good.

Epson tends toward quality product but rolls over their product lines frequently.

Depending on the cost of that critter, you might want to consider one of the Arcos products and get photo viewing on a large screen, MP3 player, even video capability. Take a look at the 404.

http://www.archos.com/products/video...global&lang=en


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Old 02-07-2007, 04:11 PM
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LF = left foot. Hope that helped.

BW23 - that Epson product is 75,000yen, or about $650 (MSRP). The Arcos I posted the link to is a proven product that is used extensively by folks in multi0media and photot and video/film product in New York city.

LF = lady friend.
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Thanks,
I've been researching the EPSON and I really like the ability to dump a memory card directly into the device.

You do not need a computer. The display is also 4 x 6 .

It seems pricey for what it is.


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4x6 is closer to the size of the whole unit (85mm x 148mm) The display of only 3.8-inches.

What you are looking at with that Epson unit is what is generically called a Personal Video Player, or PVP. With that brave, new piece of knowledge, you can now venture into Cnet.comís reviews area and read about Archos, Creative Labs, etc, all of the other PVPs.

I think the Archos 404 with a 320x240 3.5-inch TFT dispaly sells for around $260. The 504 with a 480x277 (16x9) 4.3-inch TFT display can be had for around $340 for the 80gb and $540 for the 160gb versions. Still less than the Epson.

The Epson P-4500 replaced the P-4000 that was released just 9-mons or so earlier. Thatís what I mean about Epson rolling over the product line frequently. Nothing goes stale in that company. The 80gb P-4500 has a 3.8-inch 640x480 (VGA) TFT display. I think the res is nice but may or may not be necessary. If possible you should go somewhere and look at competing units and decide. I have no idea what the Epson sells for, street price.

All PVPs show photos, the least significant function on any of them. Video is most significant, hardest to get right. It looks like the Epson unit is geared more toward photo viewing (less toward video) because of itís heavy support of photo formats and meta data associated with photos, and because of its screen res that would cause video processing to work 4-times harder.

The reason the multi-media gurus use the Archos is because it was around long before any other internal HD portable units were made. It was the first, predated the iPod by a millennium or two. You can literally stream video capture directly into an Archos. Not trying to sell you on the Archos, just wanted you to realize the Epson product is not innovative and not without other, serious competition. You should shop and read the Cnet reviews because there are several PVPs out there now.
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Old 02-07-2007, 08:05 PM
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Get a thumb drive for $20. Pretty much evry room in the civilized world has a computer in it.
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BW - I like to take lots of photos but don'd quite understand the need for the storage device unless you dont have access to a computer. As mentioned above a simple$20 dvice will let you download photos to a computer pretty quickly - or you can plug most cameras into a computer and download directly.
Maybe a nice present would be a basic photoshop program to manipulate and file the photos would go further for less $$
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I've been using Paintshop Pro for several years now, its pretty good. Not as much $$ as Adobe, which is the professional standard.
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mymojo - 2/8/2007 4:55 AM

BW - I like to take lots of photos but don'd quite understand the need for the storage device unless you dont have access to a computer. As mentioned above a simple$20 dvice will let you download photos to a computer pretty quickly - or you can plug most cameras into a computer and download directly.
Maybe a nice present would be a basic photoshop program to manipulate and file the photos would go further for less $$

She already has a laptop to download to and I thought the Epson would just be more convenient. It basically is a high capacity storage device / viewer. Alot of money for what it does.

She also has the editing software that is supplied with your camera. Of course nothing professional. That might be a better idea.


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Old 02-08-2007, 09:46 AM
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BW23 - here's a thought. I know that with all the pictures I take and print out I go thru ink cartriges and photo paper like there's no tomorrow. How about a gift package that bundles one of the less pricey versions of photoshop ( I think mine was about $100 for the tuned down version of photoshop) and several packages of high quality photo paper in different sizes along with a complement of ink cartiges for her printer. I'd be prety thrilled if I got something like that.
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I'm a part time wedding photographer and I was considering the Epson. Instead, I just used some of the money and bought more CF cards. Photoshop CS2 camera RAW is awesome to processing photos. Thats if your wife shoots RAW. Here's a photoshop tip.. Buy a legit older version (Photoshop 5 or 6) on ebay and then CS2 upgrade. Now you have a legal copy for around $200.
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Or just buy Photoshop Elements. It is a stripped down version of Photoshop for the non-professional. It will do 99% of what almost everyone, pro or not, uses Photoshop for.

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Roxio makes a decent media manager package for @ $100. I use the Videowave software for video editing. Not sure about the photo editing.

Photoshop rocks but you have to be a crazed female mission specialist to completely tap all of its potential. Really for Pros but I use it all the time for cleaning up photos, resizing, layers etc etc.
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Have you looked at Adobe Lightroom yet? Really nice program.
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Old 02-09-2007, 02:42 PM
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I just purchased Photoshop Element and I'm still deciding about the EPSON.

She would probably just use it as a portable viewing device to show pics to her friends. Alot of coin for a simple viewer.


Gosh.....wish my buddy wouldn't have shown me his EPSON.
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Old 02-11-2007, 02:26 PM
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I think if you are looking for portable storage look into one of the CD-R drives that you can burn images right from the card to a cd. I use them when I go to shoot my son's games. I do not have pc available so I just shoot all day then burn them right to CD that night.

Then when I get home they are already stored on CD.......

Here's the one I use

http://www.steves-digicams.com/2004_...eno_cp200.html
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