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LI Sound Grunt 03-23-2021 03:11 AM

Root Canal
 
So had 2 problems teeth next to each other . Had the non root canal repair one done already one (teeth 2 and 3) and seemed to fix it and the whole area feels fine. No issues with pain hot cold taste anything - so I am wondering if I really need the root canal (roots go into sinus) .

So reg dentist says yes could tell from original xray I guess. (1) Should I get another xray first Also both root canal and regular dentist said may be cracked or otherwise may need implant. (2) Do I even bother with this root canal repair?Just go straight to implant
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Experts and amateurs with experience invited to chime in

mbb 03-23-2021 04:30 AM

If its cracked below gum, just pull it.

They can see dead tooth on xray. Abscess at root It gets infected, so something has to be done. It will eat its way thru your jaw bone .

Google root canals and health problems.......leaving dead tooth in mouth really isnt that great of idea.

I had one i let doc try to save.....mistake. infection from hell......er....iv antibiotics......brown pus draining into mouth.....tooth broke deep a few mo later anyway and had to be extracted.

You can do without a few teeth.....sometimes thats the best alternative. If doesnt show.

Chumslinger1 03-23-2021 05:00 AM

Had an infection that turned out to be a cracked molar. After antibiotics, the plan was to pull, do bone graft and then implant. During extraction, perforated sinus. Healed fine, but was told that I would need surgery to lift sinus before they could do implant. Yeah, no. Other option is a bridge. I’m leaving it as is for now. Gap doesn’t bother me cause it is not visable.

kmagnuss 03-23-2021 05:08 AM

Don't let your dentist do a root canal. Go to an Endodontist. For whatever reason regular dentists are allowed to do Root Canals. That's like having a Orthopedic Surgeon do a brain transplant.

pooleman 03-23-2021 05:12 AM

Root canals are profit centers for ordinary dentists...get the implant and be done with it

TorFed 03-23-2021 05:27 AM

Do something. You need to avoid an infection.

Tingum 03-23-2021 05:31 AM

Get an implant. Fewer hassles, same costs.

billinstuart 03-23-2021 05:32 AM

Got same issue ..big chip on front toof. Doesn't hurt at all. Why kill a healthy tooth with a chip? Hell I'll super glue the chip back on. "Root canal and cap". Why not just cap?

Bob1957 03-23-2021 07:59 AM


Originally Posted by kmagnuss (Post 14583092)
Don't let your dentist do a root canal. Go to an Endodontist. For whatever reason regular dentists are allowed to do Root Canals. That's like having a Orthopedic Surgeon do a brain transplant.

Yes^^
After a botched root canal by my regular dentist I found endodontist reviews on the internet and went with the one who had the highest reviews.
Expensive but very good. I never knew a root canal could be so quick and painless.

flcatcher1 03-23-2021 08:02 AM

My first implant cost way more than any of my root canals, over $2000 out of pocket. Second implant was aborted. I had already paid $700 out-of-pocket for the bone graft - insurance covered 1/2 of the cost as I recall - and then when I went in for the actual implant the oral surgeon got into the maxillary sinus with the drill. Thus endeth the procedure. He didn't charge me for the attempt to place the implant. He also didn't tell me that he perforated the sinus, but I could feel the drill go through, and blood on the handkerchief from stuffy nostril on that side when leaving the office confirmed my suspicion.
More recently I had a tooth with a previous root canal beak off. Said "no thanks" to offer of an implant which dentist was going to do himself (previous dentist retired). So the "stump" remains in place with instructions to call dentist if it starts to hurt.

Slamdancer 03-23-2021 08:57 AM


Originally Posted by kmagnuss (Post 14583092)
Don't let your dentist do a root canal. Go to an Endodontist. For whatever reason regular dentists are allowed to do Root Canals. That's like having a Orthopedic Surgeon do a brain transplant.

Definitely go to an Endodonist, no way I would let a general dentist do it.

LI Sound Grunt 03-23-2021 09:45 AM

Thanks to all

(Yes I did go to a endodonist who my dentist referred me to. )

brobin 03-23-2021 10:02 AM

Get the electrical test from the endodontist. About 15 years ago my dentist said one of my front teeth needed a root canal job and sent me to an endodontist. He did a test where a small electrical current is sent through the tooth and you tell him if you can feel it. (He tries to trick you to make sure you're not faking!) If you can feel it, the nerve is not dead and you don't need a root canal. I felt it. Dentist insisted I needed the RC and endo said no. I believed the endo and the tooth is still fine 15 years later.

Locke N Load 03-23-2021 10:14 AM

I just had step two of a root canal done yesterday. Crown is next. A different tooth was replaced last year, extraction, bone graft, post, implant, crown. I think it was four trips total and around 2k out of pocket. Very little to know pain during or after. Oral surgeon did the extraction and dentist did the crown. Endodontist did the root canal. $266 out of pocket so far and I expect the crown will be close to a grand if memory serves me correctly. Mild discomfort at most for a day after step one and again today. If I had to do it again I'm not sure which I would choose. The extraction was a no-brainer as the tooth was cracked fully in half. The root canal was only a small crack so the endodontist thought would be ok to do a root canal on. He was right I guess. I see why these guys have Freemans.

Bob1957 03-23-2021 11:10 AM

I had an upper molar replaced with an implant, it kept getting infected so it had to come out :(
Oral surgeon removed it and cleaned out the infected part and did a bone graft.
Later I had a bridge put in and that has worked very well for me, no problems and cheaper than an implant.
My $6,000 dollar tooth, all out of pocket :(

makonnen 03-23-2021 12:53 PM

Not an expert, just saying I had a root canal done many years ago for a similar issue. No issues, tooth is still healthy and strong.


mbb 03-23-2021 01:13 PM


Originally Posted by makonnen (Post 14584644)
Not an expert, just saying I had a root canal done many years ago for a similar issue. No issues, tooth is still healthy and strong.

Actually your tooth is DEAD. And it gets weak
and brittle with time after it dies, which is why it MUST have a porcelain crown, it will crack apart if it doesnt. Its an old dead tooth.

After they try t9 clean out major root passages , they swap it with bleach to try to kill bacteria, pack it with rubber, close it up. But passages and tubes in tooth harbor bacteria forever..that can cause real health problems.





bingo91799 03-23-2021 01:20 PM

i wasted so much money on root canals an crowns, having to have 3 teeth extracted after 3 years, going with implants .

Kendall 03-23-2021 01:43 PM

My wife is a dentist and her brother is her partner and conducts a residency training program teaching dentists how to correctly perform Dental Implants. All he does as a dentist is Dental Implants. He did one for my front tooth nearly 20 years ago that has not had one problem and I can eat anything. At any rate, he laughs and says root canals are just pre-treatment prior to eventually getting a permanent fix - the Dental Implant. Therefore, I strongly recommend you get a Dental Implant but only from an Oral Surgeon type of Dentist who does high volumes of Implants and preferably a Dentist who only does Implants. At my wife's office, for example, they have a centrifuge where they take your own blood and spin it and the Platelet Rich Plasma rises to the top of the tube. They use that Platelet Rich Plasma from your own body to pour over the surgically placed implant and surrounding tissues to enhance healing. The Platelet Rich Plasma has a concentration of Growth Factors and Healing Factors some yet to be discovered which God placed in the blood. It makes a significant difference in healing and recovery.

Best advice is do not see a regular dentist for an Implant. Most do not have the experience and are only trying to perform a high dollar procedure. Make sure you see a well-trained, very experienced Dental Implant surgeon preferably who has a credentialing certificate from the ABOI/ID American Board of Oral Implantology/Implant Dentistry or the American Academy of Implant Dentistry or something equivalent.

westbootie 03-23-2021 01:47 PM


Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt (Post 14582870)
So had 2 problems teeth next to each other . Had the non root canal repair one done already one (teeth 2 and 3) and seemed to fix it and the whole area feels fine. No issues with pain hot cold taste anything - so I am wondering if I really need the root canal (roots go into sinus) .

So reg dentist says yes could tell from original xray I guess. (1) Should I get another xray first Also both root canal and regular dentist said may be cracked or otherwise may need implant. (2) Do I even bother with this root canal repair?Just go straight to implant
.
Experts and amateurs with experience invited to chime in


Originally Posted by pooleman (Post 14583108)
Root canals are profit centers for ordinary dentists...get the implant and be done with it

Implant in the 2-3 area might not be that straight forward.
More times than not, there isn't adequate height of bone in that area due to the maxillary sinus and there has to be a preliminary sinus lift- bone grafting procedure before the implant can be placed. Additionally, bone quality can be poor in the posterior maxilla.
I had a hard time understanding exactly what's going on with the OP upper right area, but if the tooth has not had a root canal and you feel it's cracked, the endodontist should be able to take a CBCT scan and determine if there is a severe enough fracture to warrant extraction.
If it has had a root canal and you feel it's fractured, doing a CBCT scan can be much more difficult and not as predictable in reaching a diagnosis.


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