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Old 03-23-2021, 01:55 PM
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I had 2 root canals done back around 1992. started with porcelain crowns they cracked around the 10 year mark and came out, replaced with gold which feel exactly like real teeth, one of those crowns came off and there wasn't enough tooth left to glue it back on...went with implant. All I can say is modern implant surgery is a BREEZE! You go in, get gassed, wake up. Now I had to do that 2 times, one for extraction then back for installation of the post, then to dentist for crown...but compared to 1990s vintage root canals...it was NOTHING!

My opinion is to skip to extraction and implant. In my life's experience a root canaled tooth is good for 10-20 years. Versus a titanium post which should be good forever...


EDIT: I think Westbootie and I were posting at the same time...my teeth in question are both lowers, Upper teeth may be a game changer for sure
Old 03-23-2021, 02:04 PM
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What is a root canal?

CollapseName:  Root-Canals-Explained-222x300.jpg
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Size:  12.7 KB“Endo” is the Greek word for “inside” and “odont” is Greek for “tooth.” Endodontic treatment treats the inside of the tooth. Root canal treatment is one type of endodontic treatment.

To understand endodontic treatment, it helps to know something about the anatomy of the tooth. Inside the tooth, under the white enamel and a hard layer called the dentin, is a soft tissue called the pulp. The pulp contains blood vessels, nerves and connective tissue and creates the surrounding hard tissues of the tooth during development.

The pulp extends from the crown of the tooth to the tip of the roots where it connects to the tissues surrounding the root. The pulp is important during a tooth’s growth and development. However, once a tooth is fully mature it can survive without the pulp, because the tooth continues to be nourished by the tissues surrounding it. Learn more about exactly what a root canal is.



Does a root canal kill the tooth?

CollapseA root canal does not kill the tooth, and after a root canal is complete, the tooth will be able to function as it normally does. However, root canals do remove the nerves inside the tooth, but these nerves serve very little function in a fully formed tooth.

Do you need a crown after a root canal?

CollapseNeeding a crown after a root canal depends highly on the location of the tooth in the mouth—teeth towards the back of the mouth like molars and premolars are needed more for chewing, and generally require crowns, where incisors or canines which aren’t needed for chewing don’t always require crowns.


Originally Posted by mbb View Post
Actually your tooth is DEAD. And it gets weak
and brittle with time after it dies, which is why it MUST have a porcelain crown, it will crack apart if it doesnt. Its an old dead tooth.

After they try t9 clean out major root passages , they swap it with bleach to try to kill bacteria, pack it with rubber, close it up. But passages and tubes in tooth harbor bacteria forever..that can cause real health problems.
Old 03-23-2021, 03:36 PM
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Originally Posted by mbb View Post
Actually your tooth is DEAD. And it gets weak
and brittle with time after it dies, which is why it MUST have a porcelain crown, it will crack apart if it doesnt. Its an old dead tooth.

After they try t9 clean out major root passages , they swap it with bleach to try to kill bacteria, pack it with rubber, close it up. But passages and tubes in tooth harbor bacteria forever..that can cause real health problems.
Sorry forgot to mention my tooth with the root canal has a crown. In fact, my dentist just replaced that crown, it's probably been about 12 years or so since the root canal. Just saying no issues so far with it. From what I understand, it is a common procedure.
Old 03-24-2021, 07:50 AM
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Originally Posted by westbootie View Post
Implant in the 2-3 area might not be that straight forward.
More times than not, there isn't adequate height of bone in that area due to the maxillary sinus and there has to be a preliminary sinus lift- bone grafting procedure before the implant can be placed. Additionally, bone quality can be poor in the posterior maxilla.
I had a hard time understanding exactly what's going on with the OP upper right area, but if the tooth has not had a root canal and you feel it's cracked, the endodontist should be able to take a CBCT scan and determine if there is a severe enough fracture to warrant extraction.
If it has had a root canal and you feel it's fractured, doing a CBCT scan can be much more difficult and not as predictable in reaching a diagnosis.
This explains a lot! Thanks-

In fact the tooth did have a prior root canal so I guess that is why they do not yet know if it is cracked.

And yes it has a crown now. And yes they did mention this area would need a bone graft for an implant - So Now I see why the attempt at a second root canal is the preferred route right now. Thank you Dr Westbootie. I guess my Dentist and endo doc know what they are talking about......
Old 03-24-2021, 09:38 AM
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Not a dentist but if its a molar can't you just get a crown?
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Originally Posted by gameon View Post
Not a dentist but if its a molar can't you just get a crown?
Well mine was a long time ago so I don't remember the details. But I believe I had one hell of a toothache, the dentist had to kill the root (root canal), fill it and apply a crown. It fixed the problem and has not been a problem since. It's been about 12 years, easy procedure, fast, common, just local freezing, hardly felt anything.

Take care of your teeth guys...
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For what it's worth, I've had a root canal on one of my front upper teeth since 1978, that's been capped and re-capped multiple times and never had an issue. My only worry is that the original broken tooth is getting to the point that there is barely enough left to hold a cap, so I see an expensive implant in my future.
Old 03-24-2021, 12:05 PM
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The only thing worse than getting a root canal is needing a root canal.
Old 03-24-2021, 01:58 PM
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Originally Posted by kmagnuss View Post
Don't let your dentist do a root canal. Go to an Endodontist. For whatever reason regular dentists are allowed to do Root Canals. That's like having a Orthopedic Surgeon do a brain transplant.
Not all dentists are the same. I've had root canals from an endodontist as well as regular dentists. I even had a root canal done in Ecuador. My dentist does them and does them well.
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I have had one root canal done in my life when I was 20 years old. I will NEVER have another one. I was not numbed up enough. Doc shoved that drill bit up into my brain and I almost power bombed him in the middle of the procedure. He said "Oh you felt that?" I said what the hell do you think? Anyway they numbed me up more and I was on pins and needles for the rest of the procedure. If you have to do it I would recommend being put under for it.
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I think I have had 3 root canals and crowns-maybe 4/ I crown was replaced cracked and another came lose and I lost/swallowed it not sure

also have had 2 teeth pulled and not replaced-1 lower and 1 upper back teeth

so far so good on the RC
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Originally Posted by Tegin1 View Post

What is a root canal?

CollapseAttachment 1125015“Endo” is the Greek word for “inside” and “odont” is Greek for “tooth.” Endodontic treatment treats the inside of the tooth. Root canal treatment is one type of endodontic treatment.

To understand endodontic treatment, it helps to know something about the anatomy of the tooth. Inside the tooth, under the white enamel and a hard layer called the dentin, is a soft tissue called the pulp. The pulp contains blood vessels, nerves and connective tissue and creates the surrounding hard tissues of the tooth during development.

The pulp extends from the crown of the tooth to the tip of the roots where it connects to the tissues surrounding the root. The pulp is important during a tooth’s growth and development. However, once a tooth is fully mature it can survive without the pulp, because the tooth continues to be nourished by the tissues surrounding it. Learn more about exactly what a root canal is.



Does a root canal kill the tooth?

CollapseA root canal does not kill the tooth, and after a root canal is complete, the tooth will be able to function as it normally does. However, root canals do remove the nerves inside the tooth, but these nerves serve very little function in a fully formed tooth.

Do you need a crown after a root canal?

CollapseNeeding a crown after a root canal depends highly on the location of the tooth in the mouth—teeth towards the back of the mouth like molars and premolars are needed more for chewing, and generally require crowns, where incisors or canines which aren’t needed for chewing don’t always require crowns.
What this description leaves out is the bone that continues to grow in the pulp chamber. That was a major cause of my tooth pain. The bone buildup was pushing on the nerve and also acting as a straight shot for temperature. A cold drink was like an icicle to the face. The x-ray showed it very clearly. The endodontist spent some time drilling it out to clear the area and the follow up x-ray showed the new open space well. No pulp means no more bone growth. I think. There was lots of talk going on and I had just had the novacaine needle in several times. Worst part by far.
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Originally Posted by LI Sound Grunt View Post
So had 2 problems teeth next to each other . Had the non root canal repair one done already one (teeth 2 and 3) and seemed to fix it and the whole area feels fine. No issues with pain hot cold taste anything - so I am wondering if I really need the root canal (roots go into sinus) .

So reg dentist says yes could tell from original xray I guess. (1) Should I get another xray first Also both root canal and regular dentist said may be cracked or otherwise may need implant. (2) Do I even bother with this root canal repair?Just go straight to implant
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Go see Amy in Norwich, she will square you away.

https://www.endodonticsct.com/meet-the-doctor




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Just wanted to offer a pro tip if you decide to pull it instead of the root canal.

Have a piece of smallish wooden dowel to measure and cut. When you put the pliers on your tooth, just gently squeeze first!!
Now cut the dowel so that you can put it between the handles of the pliers and it won't let the handles squeeze the jaws any tighter than your measured tooth stick amount.
The dowel will let you really pull on the pliers without squeezing them too hard and crushing your tooth. I completely crushed a tooth before I figured out that trick. Trust me, you don't want to crush your tooth in the process. Not good.
Reckon Dentists must have something like opposite squeezer pliers or something. Love to me get a pair of them.

In a jam, the smallest, little toy like looking Vise Grips will get her done too.

Good Luck.

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Originally Posted by Mpellet View Post
Go see Amy in Norwich, she will square you away.

https://www.endodonticsct.com/meet-the-doctor


Thanks -I ended up going to the one my Dentist recommended Dr Abedie? in Middletown. It worked wasn't obviously cracked but he did say if there was a further failure I would have to get it pulled. Which is what everyone told me going in to this. Was actually totally painless and feelmuch better
Originally Posted by bayrunner16 View Post
Just wanted to offer a pro tip if you decide to pull it instead of the root canal.

Have a piece of smallish wooden dowel to measure and cut. When you put the pliers on your tooth, just gently squeeze first!!
Now cut the dowel so that you can put it between the handles of the pliers and it won't let the handles squeeze the jaws any tighter than your measured tooth stick amount.
The dowel will let you really pull on the pliers without squeezing them too hard and crushing your tooth. I completely crushed a tooth before I figured out that trick. Trust me, you don't want to crush your tooth in the process. Not good.
Reckon Dentists must have something like opposite squeezer pliers or something. Love to me get a pair of them.

In a jam, the smallest, little toy like looking Vise Grips will get her done too.

Good Luck.
Thanks - I am envisioning that scene in that Tom Hanks movie where he is stuck on that island with Wilson and pulls out his tooth...:-)

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