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Old 03-22-2021, 03:27 PM
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Originally Posted by Flounderrr View Post
I think 2k is gonna be a stretch. I have an MX-5200 and while the loader could physically lift it, I think my back wheels come up when it starts pushing around 1k. Having the bush hog on back let’s me lift a bit more, but I still don’t think I can hit the 2k mark (atleast safely). Can’t say for sure since I’ve never tried weighing my loads but I’ve had issues trying to lift sections of tree trunks.

Overall it’s a good tractor though. I got the shuttle shift but kind of wish I would of went HST since a lot of my work is brush clearing vs bush hogging.
You need to have almost as much ballast weight on the back, as you are going to lift. That is right in the owner manuals. I have a JD 2032R with FEL and I have lifted (including the pallet forks and mount and load, 1390 lbs. I have nearly 1k lb ballast box on a quick attach mount, which in itself weighs over 100 lb, and moves the ballast box further back behind the tractor, about 16 inches. My rear tires have no ballast in them, and rear wheels never even bounce, as they would if the back end was too light. You need to get a concrete-filled ballast box on that thing
Old 03-22-2021, 03:33 PM
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Originally Posted by Charlie in TX View Post
Food plots for deer, etc? That is far easier than crops that need real dirt work. Food plots are mostly spread seed and disk it in. Far easier than say corn.

I had a small Mahindra 2615. It is a fine tractor made by Mitsubishi and rebaged. For equivalent tractor, it will cheaper for a Mahindra, Kioti etc than a John Deere, Kubota, New Holland. Weather it is a better value depends on you. Got plenty of money? Get JD, K or NH. Pinching pennies? Get 'other' tractor.
big thing thatís changed in the past few years is emissions. No way I would touch an off brand tractor through a limited service dealer with an emissions equipped tractor
Old 03-22-2021, 03:45 PM
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Get a 90-120 hp tractor. No farmer ever said damn I have to much hp. Go with Kubota if the JD/Case/NH is out of your price range. The other tractors are more light duty acreage tractors. I would not trust them with a heavy work load. (Just my opinion)
Old 03-22-2021, 06:15 PM
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The Kioti DK is a great machine. Have a DK4510 and it’s been a great machine with a very powerful loader.
Old 03-22-2021, 08:12 PM
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
Personal opinion, but 10 acres of plowing is a lot of land to put a small tractor on. For that amount of work I would want 50+ PTO HP, no HST (I loath HST's for most applications...absolutely hate them). To me the ideal setup (based on what you are describing) would be 60 or so PTO HP, 4x4, synchronized/shuttle reverse, 5K+lbs (not counting weights/tire ballasts), ag tires, and cab if you have the $. This will give you full HP to the tires for plowing, and still allow for relatively efficient loader work. HST's eat HP and build heat in a hurry when you have a plow in the ground.

On a new tractor that would put you in a Kubota M6060 or M7060. In the day of emissions equipped tractors, which brand I went with would be based 100% on local dealer reputation, skewed towards a locally owned, fairly large dealer. If you happen to be in SC, can't say enough good things about Wilson Equipment in Newberry.
Exactly what I was going to say. Hst us good for loader work but mowing, plowing, and general farm type work wouldn't be good for it. Shuttle shift for anything you get thats not hst.
Old 03-23-2021, 01:28 AM
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If u ever use a real tractor with a big harrow you wonít go back lol. We have 50hp Kubota shuttle shift 45hp Massey standard shift and 130hp John Deere 4430 thatís a tractor son Lol. I plant my plots w 15í harrow and mow w a 15í batwing. The other tractors donít get used much. Of course u may not have the room to maneuver a big combo. Donít like hst personally. Shuttle shift is the chit. I just wish we had a cab tractor but have a cab Kubota 95 for other stuff. I donít worry about sealer support for my tractors. Theyíve never broken. The skid steer however is new and has def. that sucks and weíve had issues not a lot but have had it at the dealer. As stated the Kubota insurance is best thing u could get especially if u get a def machine. I wouldnít want much under 75hp if I only had one tractor
Old 03-23-2021, 06:29 AM
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Fairly set on the non-cab Kubota M6060 or 7060 at this point. Thanks for all the advice and tips.

If I go the M7060 route it has an optional 12F/12R trans verse the standard 8F/8R. I would imagine the low gear is even more low with the optional trans and the higher gears allow for faster speeds to get to said food plots/area, which I do not need. Any thoughts on this?
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Originally Posted by arbogb06 View Post
Fairly set on the non-cab Kubota M6060 or 7060 at this point. Thanks for all the advice and tips.

If I go the M7060 route it has an optional 12F/12R trans verse the standard 8F/8R. I would imagine the low gear is even more low with the optional trans and the higher gears allow for faster speeds to get to said food plots/area, which I do not need. Any thoughts on this?
We are running mostly a older M6800 (comparable to the M7060), and it has the 8F/4R, which is plenty sufficient, but you can never have too many gears. Particularly if its a full syncro transmission. I would defer to the service manager on that personally. Also regularly operate a 135HP JD with a power quad, more gears are definitely better, but to what degree is up for opinion. The extra gears come in handy when doing a lot of very speed specific tasks, lets you dial in engine power needs to speed needs without wasting fuel. For your described use I really wouldn't get too hung up on that though. Speed not so much an issue...unless you are on a paved road (hard on tires) you won't be going anywhere near full speed, particularly with a heavy 3 pt hitch implement in the air.

For food plot use I would gravitate towards a 7' or so 3pt hitch harrow. Open field work I much prefer a pull behind. If you are doing a 3pt hitch bush hog, get one in the 7-8' range with dual trailing wheels. Dual wheels in the back make for a much more level deck side to side when negotiating slopes.
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Get a used tractor so you don't have to screw with all the emissions crap. None have been made in America for decades.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
We are running mostly a older M6800 (comparable to the M7060), and it has the 8F/4R, which is plenty sufficient, but you can never have too many gears. Particularly if its a full syncro transmission. I would defer to the service manager on that personally. Also regularly operate a 135HP JD with a power quad, more gears are definitely better, but to what degree is up for opinion. The extra gears come in handy when doing a lot of very speed specific tasks, lets you dial in engine power needs to speed needs without wasting fuel. For your described use I really wouldn't get too hung up on that though. Speed not so much an issue...unless you are on a paved road (hard on tires) you won't be going anywhere near full speed, particularly with a heavy 3 pt hitch implement in the air.

For food plot use I would gravitate towards a 7' or so 3pt hitch harrow. Open field work I much prefer a pull behind. If you are doing a 3pt hitch bush hog, get one in the 7-8' range with dual trailing wheels. Dual wheels in the back make for a much more level deck side to side when negotiating slopes.
We use an 8' 3 point offset disc harrow, an 8' cultipacker and an 8' brush cutter behind our John Deere 5075E tractor. That combo works well for us. For clearing we use a JD 333G with a 6 way blade and a 60" forestry disc mulcher. The guys we bought the property from used primarily feeders and we're switching over to primarily food plots.
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Originally Posted by arbogb06 View Post
Fairly set on the non-cab Kubota M6060 or 7060 at this point. Thanks for all the advice and tips.

If I go the M7060 route it has an optional 12F/12R trans verse the standard 8F/8R. I would imagine the low gear is even more low with the optional trans and the higher gears allow for faster speeds to get to said food plots/area, which I do not need. Any thoughts on this?
I think the 12 is more synchronized and doesn't require as much clutch work. I have the standard on a M5640 and never thought about needing the extra.
Old 03-23-2021, 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by arbogb06 View Post
Fairly set on the non-cab Kubota M6060 or 7060 at this point. Thanks for all the advice and tips.

If I go the M7060 route it has an optional 12F/12R trans verse the standard 8F/8R. I would imagine the low gear is even more low with the optional trans and the higher gears allow for faster speeds to get to said food plots/area, which I do not need. Any thoughts on this?
Not sure what part of the country you're in but I can't imagine having to work without an A/C cab.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
Not sure what part of the country you're in but I can't imagine having to work without an A/C cab.
You got that right, even up here in Wisconsin it gets plenty hot in the summer, let alone the subject of breathing in the dust, dirt, grass so on all day long. It is really nice to come in clean and change or clean out my 2 cabin filters once a month.
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Originally Posted by mikeloew View Post
You got that right, even up here in Wisconsin it gets plenty hot in the summer, let alone the subject of breathing in the dust, dirt, grass so on all day long. It is really nice to come in clean and change or clean out my 2 cabin filters once a month.
dust and yellow jackets are very compelling reasons to go with a cab. Most of my seat time is open station, but can is significantly better if itís in the budget.
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Originally Posted by mikeloew View Post
You got that right, even up here in Wisconsin it gets plenty hot in the summer, let alone the subject of breathing in the dust, dirt, grass so on all day long. It is really nice to come in clean and change or clean out my 2 cabin filters once a month.
Plus on the skidsteer it's nice to have bullet proof glass between you and what you're cutting.
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M4D-071 with cab and lane shark for maintaining shooting lanes.
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Read through all of this. Barely breaking in my LX2610. Youíll love a Kubota. The Insurance is a no brainer. They build the motors so they are going to be the ones to go to for a DEF issue. Jealous you need such a large tractor. You can drag some serious stuff with an M series. I would get a cab in your situation. Itís like an offshore boat. Your in the elements and environment. Most days itís fine but day after day you canít just not work if the weather is wet, cold, or too hot
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I have a Kioti NX 6010 HST and I'm very happy with it. The NX has some nice upgrades from the DK including a suspension seat!!

Easy $5000 discount against an apples to apples comparison to Kubota.
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Originally Posted by autobaun70 View Post
big thing thatís changed in the past few years is emissions. No way I would touch an off brand tractor through a limited service dealer with an emissions equipped tractor
Didn't even think about the emissions. Point taken.
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Originally Posted by Charlie in TX View Post
Didn't even think about the emissions. Point taken.
older tractors don't have that shit on them

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