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Old 03-06-2021, 09:53 AM
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interesting study I think
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Common sense. deep water allows tides to flow with more strength and making what were lower floodplains into higher filled in areas makes the surrounding areas more prone to flooding.

Bet the study cost $$$.
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Duh
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Why are they so quick to point that “climate change” is the main culprit, when it’s clearly stated in their study that the main areas facing increased nuisance flooding are areas with engineered changes to the waterways?

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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
Why are they so quick to point that “climate change” is the mail culprit... ?
BECAUSE that's how 'studies' work. Many based on false presumptions where the goal is to prove a point instead of studying all data BEFORE analysis is/ are made. It's why I dismiss most all single studies outright. It's one study out of thousands. It means nothing. Do you know what means even less then nothing? A bloomberg writer pretending to be presenting unbiased information while summating a write up of that study

Bloomberg View is just slightly better than the View. But not by much

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This people are just F^%$ing stupid. A group here had a day where they would track the tide line around the area. They were so surprised how far the water came up. Hello, dumb ass we were having a Nor'easter and a blue moon which both make us has extra high tides.
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LMAO fishingfun.

Ya come to florida in winter get out your ruler on our super low winter tides with the right wind push lol and you'll be screaming OMG we are having a world drought and going to run out of water and all die. Dumbass's.
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
Why are they so quick to point that “climate change” is the main culprit, when it’s clearly stated in their study that the main areas facing increased nuisance flooding are areas with engineered changes to the waterways?
Programming! Request a grant to study The Suns’ Effects on earth temperature increases and let us know how much money you are allowed for your research.

Those who get grants do what they are told, or never again will they get one.
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I live on a canal dug about 80 years ago. My neighbor [ old lady] was born here. Here bulkhead has a step where she sat as a child. It’s still the exact height at high tide as when she was a child. So let’s assume little to no change here [ Long Island , south shore ] Maryland and Delaware have some areas that definitely lost over 1’ of land and not from tide. That’s 200 miles away. Is seawater rising or is land sinking? I question ‘Climate Change ‘ has much to do with it.
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
Why are they so quick to point that “climate change” is the main culprit, when it’s clearly stated in their study that the main areas facing increased nuisance flooding are areas with engineered changes to the waterways?
Easier to get the funding that way.
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The sea level has risen an average of 2-4" per century for 1000's of years. It's not a steady rise but an AVERAGE over 100 years. With plate tectonics, it's perfectly natural for the land to rise and fall also.

I got yer global warming crap right here....
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Tidewater are of Virginia , Norfolk especially having increased flooding but it’s the silt the area is made up from the meteor crash and explosion in the Chesapeake bay still settling year by year
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"...but human alterations to coastal areas that deepen shipping channels or fill in wetlands may be exacerbating the problem..."

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can't imagine that anyone is filling in wetlands. At least not to any significant degree.

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I can agree that widening and deepening a channel from the Gulf or ocean will allow more volume of water to move in or out quicker, but at times allowing more out reduces the flooding if from rain.

Not only is the water rising, land is sinking also,
the more water that is pumped out of the ground the land does slowly sink

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Originally Posted by 74lbSteve View Post
"...but human alterations to coastal areas that deepen shipping channels or fill in wetlands may be exacerbating the problem..."

I don't have a dog in this fight, but I can't imagine that anyone is filling in wetlands. At least not to any significant degree.
The term "wetlands" doesn't just apply to salt water estuaries. Fill and build is absolutely out of control in the coastal areas of SC and it is causing major issues as fresh water wetlands and swamps are filled to paved over to build apartment complexes and subdivisions. Fresh water runoff has nowhere to go and rivers backflow and run higher. Those rivers run into the harbor which is being dredged constantly. Sea level rise has been happening for a long, long time and happens slowly, but as it happens the water needs somewhere to go. Flooding from overdevelopment is the result of population growth and poor planning, cities allowing things to be buit that shouldn't be approved, etc. Future generations will look back at how shortsighted we were to allow so much filling of wetlands.

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Fill a glass half full with water. Then start adding sand/silt with a spoon into the water. Observe.
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Mother Nature is always gonna win. She is in it for the long game....

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Mother Nature is always gonna win. She is in it for the long game....
Mother Nature is a woman. We will NEVER understand her.
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Originally Posted by scflats View Post
The term "wetlands" doesn't just apply to salt water estuaries. Fill and build is absolutely out of control in the coastal areas of SC and it is causing major issues as fresh water wetlands and swamps are filled to paved over to build apartment complexes and subdivisions. Fresh water runoff has nowhere to go and rivers backflow and run higher. Those rivers run into the harbor which is being dredged constantly. Sea level rise has been happening for a long, long time and happens slowly, but as it happens the water needs somewhere to go. Flooding from overdevelopment is the result of population growth and poor planning, cities allowing things to be buit that shouldn't be approved, etc. Future generations will look back at how shortsighted we were to allow so much filling of wetlands.
Not just in SC.

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