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Old 02-24-2021, 09:23 AM
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This is a tricky one. One of our employee's got covid from his wife, they both got pretty rough symptoms for a few weeks. At this point he's tested negative again and he wants to come back to work in a week. At the same time he says his wife will not release test results or even tell us positive or negative because of her HIPAA rights.

Personally I feel that his risk of infecting anyone here is virtually none since he for sure had the virus, tested positive and now tests negative. However, our office manager is making a fuss saying that people can be re-infected, etc. She also has very convenient for her twists on what she does, or doesn't think is unsafe/good/wrong for everything. (that's a whole separate issue that will be addressed at some point in the future).

Our attorney says as long as he answers no on the covid checklist asking if he was in close contact with someone with a confirmed case in the last 14 days he can come back. Our office manage says she will not feel comfortable, and automatically assumes he will be lying.

Can't wait for this crap to be over.
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My company has required negative test results prior to coming back to work. We don't necessarily make them hand over a paper copy, but we need to see it before returning back to work. No one here has even questioned that.
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So you as the employer of the guy want to see his wife's negative COVID test before you let him back?
Old 02-24-2021, 09:30 AM
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Wife’s results do not matter here. He is a confirmed positive case. CDC says 10 days from onset with no fever (without fever reducing meds) and reduction in symptoms and his quarantine is over. CDC also says someone who was confirmed positive does not need to quarantine following a confirmed contact for 3 months after being infected.

follow cdc guidelines and do not follow an employees supposed expertness .
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I don't see why the wife wont give a test result showing a negative tests. Violation of hippa rights? You already know she had it, you'd be asking for her to confirm she doesnt have it. Makes no sense all around tbh. Seems like someone wants to make a big to-do about nothing. I kind of don't blame your manager in the sense that if I knew he got it from his wife, and he has a negative test, I'd like to know that she has a negative test as well. Does the law require her to do so? Probably not, but you'd think at work it would be less of a hostile and confrontational environment.
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sorry but the wife doesn't work for you and he's already negative. if you don't let him come back, he can probably go legal on you
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I assume your organization does not have physician serving on staff to advise policy on this, and assuming HR has no set policy, then look to the response by bone-e-fide above. Following the guidelines set by the CDC and as outlined in his post is the correct answer.

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Refer the company to the CDC return to work guidelines and be done with it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...n-to-work.html
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Your office mgr is an ass.
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Originally Posted by Gali View Post
I don't see why the wife wont give a test result showing a negative tests. Violation of hippa rights? You already know she had it, you'd be asking for her to confirm she doesnt have it. Makes no sense all around tbh. Seems like someone wants to make a big to-do about nothing. I kind of don't blame your manager in the sense that if I knew he got it from his wife, and he has a negative test, I'd like to know that she has a negative test as well. Does the law require her to do so? Probably not, but you'd think at work it would be less of a hostile and confrontational environment.
wifes test does not matter at all. Employee was confirmed positive. Follow CDC guidelines and forget about the wife. Doesn’t matter at all.
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
Wife’s results do not matter here. He is a confirmed positive case. CDC says 10 days from onset with no fever (without fever reducing meds) and reduction in symptoms and his quarantine is over. CDC also says someone who was confirmed positive does not need to quarantine following a confirmed contact for 3 months after being infected.

follow cdc guidelines and do not follow an employees supposed expertness .
This. One nut bag hag doesn't get to set standards over and above what the CDC requires. Tell her she can use PTO if his presence makes her uncomfortable.
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Originally Posted by Bridgeman53 View Post
Your office mgr is an ass.
You don't have to tell me. Big picture at the moment things have to stay as they are with her.
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
Wife’s results do not matter here. He is a confirmed positive case. CDC says 10 days from onset with no fever (without fever reducing meds) and reduction in symptoms and his quarantine is over. CDC also says someone who was confirmed positive does not need to quarantine following a confirmed contact for 3 months after being infected.

follow cdc guidelines and do not follow an employees supposed expertness .
Thank you, perfect response!
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One of our customers has an employee policy of 6 weeks quarantine (paid), needs 3 negative before returning. Large Corp.
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Originally Posted by sammythebu11 View Post
sorry but the wife doesn't work for you and he's already negative. if you don't let him come back, he can probably go legal on you
You don't have to apologize to me, I'm agreeing here. Trying to figure out how to handle an office manager that will fight that. At the same time, it is a pretty fishy argument on the wife's behalf since they were very forthcoming at the start of all this.
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[QUOTE=autobaun70;14511206]This. One nut bag hag doesn't get to set standards over and above what the CDC requires. Tell her she can use PTO if his presence makes her uncomfortable.[/QUOTE]

I like that
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
Wife’s results do not matter here. He is a confirmed positive case. CDC says 10 days from onset with no fever (without fever reducing meds) and reduction in symptoms and his quarantine is over. CDC also says someone who was confirmed positive does not need to quarantine following a confirmed contact for 3 months after being infected.

follow cdc guidelines and do not follow an employees supposed expertness .
this is probably the best advice, to stay within "legal" lines.
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But... If he comes back and the office manager gets it, you're in for a ride as they will say it was from him.

Is the office manager an ex wife perhaps? Not that's it's my business but Boyd Coddington's ex wife worked for him
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Originally Posted by xlr8ngn View Post
Refer the company to the CDC return to work guidelines and be done with it.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019...n-to-work.html
It doesn't say anything about being close to infected people, so the assumption would be it's irrelevant once he himself was confirmed infected.
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Originally Posted by TurboJoe View Post
You don't have to apologize to me, I'm agreeing here. Trying to figure out how to handle an office manager that will fight that. At the same time, it is a pretty fishy argument on the wife's behalf since they were very forthcoming at the start of all this.
The wife does not even have to provide a story or argument. She can refuse to even respond to provide health information to your company.

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