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Old 02-17-2021, 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
OMGosh......did this thread just move on to this breed eating babies????
NOW I really have seen it all! Good & loving Lord...I'm good to go whenever you feel it's time. I've seen it all!!!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-m...lls-infant-son

Happened near me last summer. Any dog could do this, but when a dog is designed to be a biting machine that doesn't let go, maybe people should consider other breeds?
Old 02-17-2021, 11:34 AM
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Originally Posted by spraynet 1 View Post
OMGosh......did this thread just move on to this breed eating babies????
NOW I really have seen it all! Good & loving Lord...I'm good to go whenever you feel it's time. I've seen it all!!!
You must not spend much time on the interent...i won't post them here cause they are morbid and really dosturbing....there are videos of pit bulls running around their yard with what appears to be a large bloody doll....and it a toddler
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https://www.jdjournal.com/2013/02/21...road-daylight/

This probably wouldn't have happened with a Weimaraner!
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Here's the ferocious baby eating beast that has some of you grown men so petrified. I can't even begin to describe the terror I'm experiencing just knowing that at any minute she might swallow me whole !!!

Lol.

Thanks to everyone that responded that has actual experience with this breed of dog.


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This is my killing machine more like Winnie the Pooh
does anything for a treat and loved by all the kids in the neighborhood

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Originally Posted by teqmod View Post
Hope you wouldn't trust them alone with the old faithful Lab. https://chicagoinjurycenter.com/common-breeds

Worst dogs for tendency to bite are those little Chihuahua dogs. Annoying as hell and can do damage if they get a hold of a child or a sensitive area. Worst dogs I have personally ever had to deal with are the Cocker Spaniels. Severely aggressive. I also do not fully trust German Shepherds from past experiences.

I would place most of these above the scary Pitt in the dangerous dog category and leaving a three year old alone with any dog is not a good idea. Just my .02
Originally Posted by Brad1 View Post
Here's the ferocious baby eating beast that has some of you grown men so petrified. I can't even begin to describe the terror I'm experiencing just knowing that at any minute she might swallow me whole !!!

Lol.

Thanks to everyone that responded that has actual experience with this breed of dog.

Nobody here is petrified of yer dag brad. You asked for opinions on an open forum you got em. Get yerself a bulldog if you want!
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Originally Posted by Kenny Powers View Post
Let's just get this out of the way....

Pit bulls should be outlawed and made extinct from this planet.

Is that what you were fishing for?
And then shot on sight.
Frickin useless breed.
Old 02-17-2021, 06:47 PM
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Originally Posted by rusbob View Post
Nobody here is petrified of yer dag brad. You asked for opinions on an open forum you got em. Get yerself a bulldog if you want!
I specifically asked if anyone had one. First hand opinions were what I was looking for.

Thanks.
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Mine is 12 years old so he aggressively sleeps most of the time now (I'm sure dreaming about killing every kid he's ever seen). I've had him since he was 8 weeks old, he's a registered amstaff. I got him at a time when I was preparing to spend 3 weeks a month working out of the country leaving my wife & son home alone for those periods. A visible and audible "don't do dumb things" warning device if you will with the added bonus of doing great bodily harm if someone wanted to "F- around and find out".

He would roll around on the floor with me and wrestle for hours or play fetch or tug o war until I would be too tired to continue. I would take him to nature preserves and he would run around until he would literally wear the skin off his pads on occasion. I have never had or seen any dog with the energy levels he had, trying to keep up with him was a handful at times.

He has a few snakes and more lizards and frogs than I can count under his belt but no mammals or humans have been mauled, maimed, or died by his magically locking jaws or his brain growing bigger than his skull & making him go crazy. I guess the timer on my ticking time bomb must be defective.....

This is him being uncontrollably animal aggressive towards a stray kitten on the day I brought it home. That little kitten on the other hand has done horrific things to countless birds, chickens, rabbits, mice, and baby opossums over the years.

The next one shows him getting ready to attack my daughter when she was a baby (see the evil in his eyes, I think he had the devil in him). I do have to admit that she did end up getting bit though a few months after this picture was taken. My mother in law made it no secret that she thought I should get rid of my dog before my daughter was born (for the same reasons others have mentioned above). I obviously didn't. Fast forward to a birthday party that we for her at my MIL's house.... MIL's chihuahua was on her ottoman, my daughter tried to pet it & it tore her hand up pretty good. I was less than impressed so I repeated her exact words back to her about "really needing to get rid of that dog" (but did it in my version of her annoying voice). She went in her room and cried & we haven't got along since . My daughter used to stick goldfish (the snacks, not actual fish) in her lips and let my dog grab them from her. MIL was thoroughly panicked when she saw this which made my daughter do it even more.

When my daughter was born, he calmed down quite a bit (for a while). Any time I took him outside, upon coming in, he would go to her room and stand on his hind legs to "check on her" in her crib. He would then sleep in front of it most of the time while she slept. As she got older, his energy levels increased and she had a ball playing with him and harassing him with clothing and necklaces. My son was 6 or 7 when we got the dog so all his stuffed animals turned into play toys because he outgrew them. This didn't doo good things for her stuffed animals later down the road so most of them ended up with missing limbs haphazardly sewn back on. I take responsibility for this because I let him destroy my sons so he was trained to treat them as his play toys.

The snake was the aggressor here so my dog got off on self defense (we have a stand your ground law in FL). Surprisingly, my homeowners insurance company didn't drop me because of this incident, well yet anyway.

Back to the really real world.... He has been attacked by other dogs twice. Each time, he laid down the second I told him to while I got both dogs off him. One was a big lab my neighbor had that got free and pounced on him, it did not so good things to his ear that involved stitches. My dog would have easily made sure it ran out of breath quickly if I allowed him to but he laid down immediately on command (while growling) but took his licks without fighting back and making the news.

The second incident was at a dog beach. A very petite girl lost control of a big Shepard dog (not the German kind) and he pulled the leash from her hand. That dog ran full blast at mine who was sitting on a blanket unleashed with me and my kids. My dog saw him coming and got ready to play, I gave him the command to lay down & he did. That dog cut open the front and side of his face but he laid there while I pulled him off and held him back. Afterwards, a decent number of people came over & played with him and said they saw what happened and thought the other dog was about to go to heaven and couldn't believe my dog listened so well. I am pretty sure that if my dog did what hers did, it would have been an ordeal that would have landed him a death sentence.

The only thing he fears is thunder. He will lay on or as close to my neck as possible and shake uncontrollably when it kicks up. I have never had a single doubt that he would fight to the death in a heartbeat to defend me or my kids, he's just never been put in a situation where he's had to. He's a little long in the tooth now but in good shape still for the most part. He had a couple bouts with skin allergens a bunch of different times in his life and now his hips are giving him trouble. I consider getting another one sometimes but I know losing him is going to be real tough and I'm not sure I'll want to go through that again. Best dog ever, hands down though.






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A co-worker of mine labeled his dog an American Staffordshire Terrier to get around the Pit Bull bans at some housing locations in Florida and Military Housing.

Just sayin'
Old 02-17-2021, 10:04 PM
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Originally Posted by dolbs View Post
You must not spend much time on the interent...i won't post them here cause they are morbid and really dosturbing....there are videos of pit bulls running around their yard with what appears to be a large bloody doll....and it a toddler
If there is such a video it means that somebody filmed it rather than trying to help. Not interested.
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My dog has been attacked by 3 different 15-30 lb dogs (she weighs 71 lbs), fortunately, she thinks everyone is her best friend and that they are trying to play with her. In the house, my baby eating killer is so aggressive that she uses what we call the creep technique to assert her dominance over our ridgeback. She always wants the spot she is laying in, so she’ll go sit right up against her and when the ridgeback adjust her position, she lays down more, the ridgeback adjust, she lays down more until the ridgeback is pushed off the pad or has no more room in the crate and just leaves to go find a new place. I’ll have to see if my wife can send me the picture of our baby eating killer laying in the neighbors front yard with all 4 of their children under the age of 7 laying on top of her before she decided to eat them.

And yes, I hate those damn weeds that grow through the pavers and down that drain line.......they grow faster than I can kill them.






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Ahhh yes the old THT men afraid of a dog.

Great looking pitties fellas. Best breed on the planet. Good luck with the Amstaff also.

Say hello to my boy. Playing with that ball is his world. He will return it to at your feet until you can’t throw it anymore.

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I've had a number of dogs over the years. I've always believed that you must keep an eye on them when around kids no matter what the breed.

We have a little mutt (7 lbs.) now that is about 6 YO. She is a cross between a Shih Zu and a Yorkie and she is a great dog that hangs with my handicapped wife. She is not a yelper and is very loving. My G Daughter who is 2 YO pulled her hair and she growled but nothing else. Woke me up a bit and I referee any time she is over the house. Sometimes you have to train the kid and the dog.

The dog before that was a GSP and she was another great dog. While on vacation in Myrtle Beach she went bad on us. Turned on me for no reason. I think she ended up with dementia as she was sitting just starring at the walls in the house. That was her one way trip and it killed me to have her put down.

So anyway, I think that you have to keep and eye on them all especially around kids and strangers (to them) when invited to the house.
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Originally Posted by Walleye Guy View Post
I've had a number of dogs over the years. I've always believed that you must keep an eye on them when around kids no matter what the breed.

We have a little mutt (7 lbs.) now that is about 6 YO. She is a cross between a Shih Zu and a Yorkie and she is a great dog that hangs with my handicapped wife. She is not a yelper and is very loving. My G Daughter who is 2 YO pulled her hair and she growled but nothing else. Woke me up a bit and I referee any time she is over the house. Sometimes you have to train the kid and the dog.

The dog before that was a GSP and she was another great dog. While on vacation in Myrtle Beach she went bad on us. Turned on me for no reason. I think she ended up with dementia as she was sitting just starring at the walls in the house. That was her one way trip and it killed me to have her put down.

So anyway, I think that you have to keep and eye on them all especially around kids and strangers (to them) when invited to the house.
That happened my four year old, she was a mix breed (gsp, amstaff, lab) we had a DNA test done. Last year she started acting strange, she would stare at the walls and walk in circles. We took her to the vet, her blood work was fine, all tests were normal. A couple of days later she had seizure so we rushed her to the animal hospital, where she died in my arms. Vet thinks she had an Aneurysm.
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Originally Posted by bushwhacker View Post
That happened my four year old, she was a mix breed (gsp, amstaff, lab) we had a DNA test done. Last year she started acting strange, she would stare at the walls and walk in circles. We took her to the vet, her blood work was fine, all tests were normal. A couple of days later she had seizure so we rushed her to the animal hospital, where she died in my arms. Vet thinks she had an Aneurysm.
Tough day.

The vet who took care of my GSP in MB wouldn't believe me. Probably thought I just wanted to get rid of her. THEN she started to stare at the walls and he believed me.
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I have owned many Bulldogs. American Bulldog staffordshire terriers Staffordshire Bull Terrier. We used them to catch wild hogs and Cattle. I rescued some from the fights to. None of these dogs were pets. Here's my experience of 45 years. Most of the dogs are really great. A few had to be watched around dogs and other animals. Only one or two were people aggressive. I've heard about the attacks on people via the Internet. That's very unfortunate. However usually the problem lies with an irresponsible person having a dog like that around kids or other animals. Most of the Bulldogs are good dogs however there is a few that can be dangerous. Just like people.
years ago a friend's little girl wandered back to my dog yard. One of my rescues attacked her. Thankfully someone was close by and got the dog off and she was ok. No more bulldogs after that. I still have alot of dogs,just no aggressive dogs.
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Two German Shepherds have mauled and killed kids in the last six months. Yet no threads created on them here by the men afraid of dogs.

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/nat...z7q-story.html

https://www.pilotonline.com/news/cri...77u-story.html
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Originally Posted by Brad1 View Post
The Wife and I dog sit for friends and family. We have my Stepson's and daughter in law's dog staying with us for a couple months. She's an American Staffordshire Terrier. Color is exactly identical to the picture on this website: "American Staffordshire Terrier Dog Breed Information" https://www.akc.org/dog-breeds/ameri...shire-terrier/

Absolutely love this dog. Smart, gentle, well trained and loves affection. Which dogs get plenty of when they stay with us.

Anyone on here have one?
Never had one, but as a vet I treated them for 40 years. I saw this thread yesterday and was going to leave it alone, but too many blamers and deniers to not throw in my thoughts:

American Staffordshire Terriers ARE one of the many breeds and mixes that are considered "Pit Bulls." Pit bull is a collective descriptive term that includes many specific breeds and mixes. Some of my BEST patients were pits; confident, not nervous, well-socialized and a pleasure to work with. BUT...

They are unique dogs, bred over a few thousand years for very specific purposes, and ownership of them requires a full understanding and acknowledgment of that truth. Yes, more people are bitten by cocker spaniels and labs each year, but pits have the tools to cause much more harm. I would much rather treat a pit bull than a German Shepherd, but I would much rather be bitten by the Shepherd.
I don't get my information from the internet, but from personal experience and professional training on dog behavior and human interaction with them. However, any brief look at the information and videos available will accurately show the nature of their bites...their jaws are extremely powerful and it is in their nature to continue the attack once it is begun.
THEY ARE NOT MEAN DOGS-they are often beloved and loyal members of their families. But their evolution (human-caused) has resulted in them being powerful predators, loyal to their "pack" (family), wary of those outside the pack...and fully capable of killing humans.
That is why the insurance companies and some jurisdictions often put restrictions on the general breed type; there is a history and there are statistics and there is liability that are real. The exact causes of each case can be questioned, and the relative "fault" involved in an individual injury incident can be debated, but the reality of the danger is fact. (For the record, I have never been a fan of breed-specific dog bans.)

To the original question, I believe the OP is asking for opinions as he is considering making a pit bull a permanent part of his family. (I do note that many people use the official breed name rather than pit bull, to help distance their dog from the others, but they are all pit bulls.)

Here are my professional recommendations:
1. Know that regardless of the specific name of the breed, it IS a pit bull.
2. Know that pit bull ownership, although potentially very rewarding, carries with it MANY responsibilities:
Regardless of any legal ordinances, proper fencing and hands-on control of a pit bull is an absolute requirement. A fence that may restrain other dogs will NOT hold a determined pit.
Understand your homeowners' insurance policy restrictions, if any, before you make your decision.
Realize that liability greatly increases when you have a pit bull; unfair or not, PI attorneys see pit bulls as easy wins in court. (Many other breeds may get the benefit of the doubt, but not pits.)
Many may not agree with me, but DO NOT GET A PIT BULL IF YOU HAVE OR WILL HAVE SMALL CHILDREN! Any loved and gentle pet, from cat to chihuahua to lab, can bite when it gets its tail stepped on or if it's played with while eating, but he consequences of a pit making a mistake are just too great. (The elderly are also at higher risk.)
DO NOT EVER ALLOW A PIT BULL TO BE WITH A CHILD UNSUPERVISED! I feel the same way about any family pet, but there is a big difference between a cat scratch and a fatal pit bull (or lab) bite.
Understand your responsibilities and limitations when in public with a pit. Proper control with a sturdy leash and collar, proper, STRONG, ADULT supervision at all times is REQUIRED. So many times I have seen an even smaller pet pull away from a child or a smaller-stature adult when it sees a squirrel, or a cat, or another dog..or a child.
(In that context, do know that any dog, and especially a pit who has the evolutionary influence to attack and fight if it feels threatened and to act as a predator if it senses vulnerability, can make sudden lunges and get away from control very quickly.)
Be prepared to hear all of the comments and opinions about pit bulls and don't get your panties in a wad when you do. Some people are justifiable scared or opinionated; if you've done your due diligence and are a responsible owner that's great, but they don't know that.
3. Know that ALL of the wonderful things about owning a pit bull - loyalty, gentleness, beauty, companionship, love - are available in the relationship you can have with ANY OTHER BREED OF DOG!
Everyone has their favorite breeds; mine happens to be the "average" (medium hair, medium size, no funky shape) mixed-breed dog. If you want a pit bull get a pit bull, but along with providing the proper loving home you must make all the necessary safeguards.
My personal preference is to NOT have to deal with all of the baggage (unfair or not) that comes with pit bull or American Staffordshire Terrier ownership.

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Good job Doc, Thanks

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