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Old 01-13-2021, 06:02 PM
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Default B-747. That's a wrap.

Last order for 4 has been placed... End of an era. 777, and the Airbus 350 platform replacing most of the 747 mission with better fuel efficiency.
https://www.businessinsider.com/boei...er-2021-1?op=1

Air France did a farewell tribute to the "Queen of the skies" as they were retired from their fleet. There was another video one out there done classy like the French one, but I can't find it..

Air France:

United made this when they retired the 747.
Old 01-13-2021, 06:09 PM
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Some of those old birds live a second life as cargo transports or keep flying passengers in low income parts of the world.
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Next gen air force 1 will be 747 but they are used planes.
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Originally Posted by Sixstring View Post
Next gen air force 1 will be 747 but they are used planes.
Purchased, but never delivered. So - incorrect.
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After a few million miles of business flying I don’t reminisce much about travel, but I will say that my first flight in business class on a Singapore Airlines 747-400 was memorable. I was upper deck with no one beside me. Fell asleep and woke up to a flight attendant adjusting the pillow behind my head. Singapore Airlines early 90’s - momentarily thought I was in heaven . Flew on a lot of 747’s - awesome planes!
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There is a 747 at a small airport near me that has an air museum, it was a big deal when it landed because of the short runway, gossip is that it can never take off again because the runways way too short, don't know if that's true or not, but it is pretty good looking around a "working" 747 and sitting in the pilots seat.
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I thought they did away with building new 747's years ago. They were originally build where SpaceX has its HQ in Kalifornia. Where are they building them now?

I do know a lot of retired airline 747's are being snapped up and converted by the freight companies.
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Originally Posted by noelm View Post
There is a 747 at a small airport near me that has an air museum, it was a big deal when it landed because of the short runway, gossip is that it can never take off again because the runways way too short, don't know if that's true or not, but it is pretty good looking around a "working" 747 and sitting in the pilots seat.
Just wait for a 50 mph head wind and it will take off just fine!
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Originally Posted by Center Crusher View Post
After a few million miles of business flying I don’t reminisce much about travel, but I will say that my first flight in business class on a Singapore Airlines 747-400 was memorable. I was upper deck with no one beside me. Fell asleep and woke up to a flight attendant adjusting the pillow behind my head. Singapore Airlines early 90’s - momentarily thought I was in heaven . Flew on a lot of 747’s - awesome planes!

Same here. I used to commute from California to Asia and loved to fly in the bubble on Singapore. I had a flight to DC on the last day of the United 747. My crew and I were down at the bar in the Airport Marriott and we struck up a conversation with the pilot nest to us. He was the PIC on that flight that day.
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They did it to themselves. Who wants 4 engines, when you can nearly do the same with 2.

The 380 is going for the same reason.

The 7x and 350 are the future.
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Originally Posted by mac7769 View Post
Purchased, but never delivered. So - incorrect.
It's being built right now at Boeing San Antonio.

Perhaps you don't know what you are talking about.

https://www.airforcemag.com/first-new-air-force-one-begins-modification-process/

https://www.robins.af.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2109812/vc-25b-begins-modification-to-create-the-next-air-force-one/
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Originally Posted by nccoaster View Post
They did it to themselves. Who wants 4 engines, when you can nearly do the same with 2.

The 380 is going for the same reason.

The 7x and 350 are the future.
guess that logic hasn't trickled down to outboards yet judging by the transoms down here
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Originally Posted by hottoddie View Post
Just wait for a 50 mph head wind and it will take off just fine!
I guess that would work, it's a pretty good museum, nearly all the planes are operational, and fly a couple of times a year, they have an old Neptune sea plane, a couple of WW2 DC2 or 3, Spitfires, a MIG (but it's not permanently there) a Super Constellation, that is a hoot to see flying and lots of other old planes, including an F111, but it's not permitted to fly, now and then they have a "tarmac day" and they get all the planes out, tell a bit of history and start them up, the visitors love that.
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Spent 15 years of my life flying 747s all over the planet.
Love the airplane, but not the long night flights, got tired of being tired all the time.
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Originally Posted by hottoddie View Post
Just wait for a 50 mph head wind and it will take off just fine!
Or build a big treadmill!!
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Originally Posted by Vitamin_Sea View Post
I thought they did away with building new 747's years ago. They were originally build where SpaceX has its HQ in Kalifornia. Where are they building them now?

I do know a lot of retired airline 747's are being snapped up and converted by the freight companies.
You sure about that part? I thought they were always built in Seattle.

Perhaps you're thinking about the DC-10s?
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Originally Posted by km1125 View Post
You sure about that part? I thought they were always built in Seattle.

Perhaps you're thinking about the DC-10s?
OK, the fuselage panels are built in Hawthorne. I'm sure they are assembled in Seattle.

https://www.latimes.com/business/la-...202-story.html
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Originally Posted by nccoaster View Post
They did it to themselves. Who wants 4 engines, when you can nearly do the same with 2.

The 380 is going for the same reason.

The 7x and 350 are the future.
That's not fair . It was designed before 2 engines were an option for some missions like long flights over water .

Plane had a h3ll of a run - lots of movies (I think one even sunk in a 70's disaster/rescue movie) , AF1 , fire fighting , even mounted a laser on it . Always will be Iconic .
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Originally Posted by ed d View Post
That's not fair . It was designed before 2 engines were an option for some missions like long flights over water .

Plane had a h3ll of a run - lots of movies (I think one even sunk in a 70's disaster/rescue movie) , AF1 , fire fighting , even mounted a laser on it . Always will be Iconic .
With a long future ahead of it hauling freight. Nothing can match it there.
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Originally Posted by Vitamin_Sea View Post
With a long future ahead of it hauling freight. Nothing can match it there.

Chartered and Loaded many a Kalitta 747 in my day!
Always amazed me how something that weighs 6-7-8 Hundred Thousand + Pounds can take off and stay up in the air.





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