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Old 01-01-2021, 01:52 PM
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My Son who is attending FSU now is considering transferring to UF.
He is majoring in Elec Engineering, switched from Mech.
He is not to impressed with the program at FSU so far. This is only his 2nd year , he has finished the AA requirements already.
UF from what we have read has a better engineering program compared to UF.
If there are any engineers here , or those who would hire one, We are looking for honest advise on if pursuing the transfer is worth it.
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On the job training is much more important than what college you went to. Your degree just says you can stick with something for 4 years.

He will learn far more in his first few years of work than he will at school.
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Attending the school he prefers will be far better than attending one he does not 100 get behind.

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Let him do what makes him confident and happy. I transferred schools and it changed my life. Way different situations...If his reasoning was that he wanted to transfer for a GF or his buddies all at the other school - no way.

that said, agree with above posters that in engineering or really any profession its way more about experience than anything. Internships and real work experience are infinitely more valuable to employers than the school name on the degree. If I were him (you) I’d be much more focused on how to build his resume than trading up a few slots in the school rankings...

I went to a 5 year undergraduate program with 3 internships built into the business degree. I was an average student (but a very hard worker on the job) and had multiple job offers and started my first job less than a week after I graduated...Virtually all my classmates had similar situations....



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Generally, no one gives a shit what school you went to. As mentioned above, internships and experience will matter more. The HR dept cares that you have a degree, but very few will care where it's from.

Go wherever you'll think works better for you.
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similar to above...there are a few elite schools that will stick out on a diploma but other than that not a big deal.

much more important that he gets some good summer internships. have him focus on landing one of those instead of critiquing the program. honestly, no offense to your son, but I cannot imagine how a 2nd year student could be qualified to critique a program like that.
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I have no idea whatsoever..... but make sure if he is serious to talk directly to the dean of that schools program. "What can you offer me and will you honor my transfer credits" Getting a commitment from the dean (they love to promote their schools) can make a big diff.
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See if he can find somewhere to intern at that is 2nd shift.

I interned as a Systems Engineer 2nd shift at a big assembly plant. Learned so much because all the really knowledgeable old timers worked 1st shift. So I'd often be left on my own to just figure things out. Nothing like being 40 feet in the air in a boom lift with a 30 year old set of blueprints and a multimeter trying to figure out what in the heck is going on. I was able to intern my whole senior year, and then got hired on full time after I graduated. I'd go to school from 8am to 2pm, then go to work from 3:30 to 11:30.
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Originally Posted by drowning shrimp View Post
UF from what we have read has a better engineering program compared to UF.
If there are any engineers here , or those who would hire one, We are looking for honest advise on if pursuing the transfer is worth it.
I'd say go with either UF or transfer to UF
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My degree is in engineering from UF. Quality program then, I have no reason to believe it isn't still. It's not night and day difference, but I'd think a UF engineering degree should hold more weight than FSU, but ultimately it's more important to find a school he likes. I started off at GT (due to "rankings") and hated every minute of it. I can say without a doubt that transferring to UF was one of the best decisions of my life.
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What everyone else above said basically. I started with an Associates degree in Industrial electrical but was working in maintenance at time learned more on the job but also was able to relate it to everything i was doing in night classes at college as well.
Went on to get my Bachelors, MBA and Masters in Accounting.

Jobowker hit the Nail on the Head, most employers that is your boss in the engineering department could care less what college you went to they want to know what experience you have and if you have ZERO then your going to get the entry level position and learn and then your either going to get rewarded or your going to leave that company after couple years and now you have some experience.

The Great HR department and company policies are simply going to say that you need a degree they don't care where it comes from. Honestly to me and from what i have seen where you went to school has become more of conversation piece on the wall of the office and bragging rights that you spent a shit ton more money for a big name school

Now that being said if you do a search for top Engineering schools in Florida FSU is not at the top of the list. But i would also agree with Chainsaw sounds fishy that son and we don't know him is critiquing in his 2nd year a program especially if he has no engineering experience. Sure there isn't a girl involved over at UF???

Now all the above being said the most important part of this entire equation is what will transfer to UF, will he need more or less class's? Will this now require additional semesters/quarters? What is the additional cost burden?

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I have no idea whatsoever..... but make sure if he is serious to talk directly to the dean of that schools program. "What can you offer me and will you honor my transfer credits" Getting a commitment from the dean (they love to promote their schools) can make a big diff.
IN WRITING with a full transcript evaluation and how those transfer credits fit into the UF degree plan

need a UF degree plan with the FSU credits (with course numbers from FSU and UF and any potential State Common Course Numbers also included on that degree plan and it signed)

here is the Florida Common Course Numbering Website

https://flscns.fldoe.org/

might need to create a login, but at the top look at "find a course" and go from there to see what FSU courses match to UF courses and then he can have an idea of what will transfer......be aware just because the website has the credits listed and being the same that does not mean you cannot get screwed (lived it in my state) that is why you get the signed off on degree plan with those transfer credits on it with the FSU/UF/SCNS numbers on it
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At year two most of your courses taken already will be Gen Ed and pretty basic. I suspect the majority will transfer without issue. As stated those are both mid-tier schools and the prestige is on par with each other. I would also suggest looking into winter session courses at UF as well as a bridge pretty the two school. Classes start soon for the three weeks so no time to delay.

Proud FSU grad myself.
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I graduated from UF back in the 70's and had several friends that started at UF and transferred up to FSU. My opinion after spending a few weekends at FSU is that the party life sucked compared to UF. Also UF had much more opportunities for hunting, fishing, skiing, diving and other outdoor activities. I loved Gainesville and would move back in a heartbeat. I especially loved the crystal clear lakes and rivers, tubing the Ichketucknee River and cave diving.

But I digress. My friends both said that FSU was an easier school. Both were in the School of Business and both graduated in Accounting. One I later hired as our corporate accountant and although a good close friend, he was a lousy accountant..

And although I didn't attend it, I've always thought and heard that UF had an excellent engineering department.
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He should transfer to NC State. They have a nice engineering program.
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Contrary to what has been said..undergrad schools do make a difference.. for better or worse, in grad school acceptance and job placement

programs get ranked for a reason...

of course good grades, and professor recommendations are very important as well..

if he can get into univ Florida I don’t see any downside, might as well look at other programs as well.

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my son is an engineering student at UCF. UCF is really and up and coming school; especially for engineering. it is getting harder and harder to get in every year; look at the average SATs and GPA of new students. the proximity to the Space Coast provides some really great internship opportunities. he should look at that as well
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I'm a 1990 FSU EE grad myself. UF's engineering program is a lot older, a lot bigger and definitely more recognized. I believe FSU started their engineering college in 1983 whereas UF's college is over 100 years old now. I think there's only 2,000 undergrads at FSU and probably over 10,000 at UF. It will be a completely different experience at UF just based on the classroom size and the level of competition from other students.

Having said that, it also comes down to what field of electrical engineering he wants to go into and how productive his internships are. As a business owner, I'd definitely consider internship experience over which school is listed on the resume. We have FSU, UF, UCF and USF grads on staff which makes for a fun football season (except the last couple years for FSU) but other than that, having practical intern experience on the resume is king.

What field of electrical engineering is he interested in?
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I believe the transfer should be relatively straightforward since they are both in state. My gut reaction is that UF is a better engineering school, but the UF/FSU crowd tends to be very regional.

As everyone else said, make sure he’s switching for the right reasons. And absolutely 100% try to get an internship or co-op job for at least 1 quarter, preferably 2, before graduating. Solid work experience will open more doors than a 4.0 - but yes, many employers have a list of
schools they recruit from, or alum preferance.
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Disagree with a lot of the comments here. Both FSU and UF are schools that produce "industry/practical" engineers as opposed to strictly "academic/research" engineers that come out of places like MIT or Cal Poly. People in the engineering field understand the separation, When it comes to "industry/practical" engineers, UF would be a "first tier" school along with schools like aTm, UTx, GT etcetera....................FSU is a second tier school and is not on the same level politically or academically....................Full disclosure- I went to Auburn and work for one of the largest engineering firms in the Florida market. If the kid wants to go to UF and can transfer and afford to do so it is a better school both politically and academically.

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