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Old 12-19-2020, 06:58 AM
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Default elderly moved down the line for the vaccine

I haven't seen the final list but heard that the most vulnerable part of our population which the highest Covid death rate have been moved down the priority list for vaccination. Is this decision from the same people who wanted to ration elderly healthcare under the ACA?

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I hear ya. Wasn't it very inspiring watching our political leaders receive the vaccinations this week. It was so inspirational of them being part of the first ones. How brave brave they are leading by example.
​​Disgusting.

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https://www.reuters.com/article/heal...-idUSKBN28T03B
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as it goes along more and more people will think they are essential and should be first
farmers, taxi drivers, auto mechanics, bus / train drivers (especially in big cities) , butchers well about everyone.
seems like other companies could be certified to use Pfizers vaccine production procedures,
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Frontline HC workers and elderly nursing home patients should be at the front of the list imo.
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
I hear ya. Wasn't it very inspiring watching our political leaders receive the vaccinations this week. It was so inspirational of them being of them part of the first ones. How brave brave they are leading by example.
​​Disgusting.
You got that right
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no issues with leadership trying to demonstrate that the vaccinations are safe. I wonder how many who called it a hoax are complaining about their spot on the list or someone they deem more important than others.

Amazing how grown ups act.
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
I hear ya. Wasn't it very inspiring watching our political leaders receive the vaccinations this week. It was so inspirational of them being of them part of the first ones. How brave brave they are leading by example.
​​Disgusting.
who you referring to?
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Originally Posted by round2it View Post
I hear ya. Wasn't it very inspiring watching our political leaders receive the vaccinations this week. It was so inspirational of them being of them part of the first ones. How brave brave they are leading by example.
​​Disgusting.
I disagree. I’ll refrain from expressing my view on politicians topside but I don’t see a problem if a few key (2-3) leaders get stabbed on TV to show the public it’s safe.

Now if more than a few of the 500+ swamp critters have received the first dose already that is disgusting and people should be outraged.
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Originally Posted by bjm9818 View Post
I disagree. I’ll refrain from expressing my view on politicians topside but I don’t see a problem if a few key (2-3) leaders get stabbed on TV to show the public it’s safe.

Now if more than a few of the 500+ swamp critters have received the first dose already that is disgusting and people should be outraged.
I believe all of them that wanted it got it. If they were young and healthy they should have waited their turn.
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So someone hears something, but there’s no list or data to provide any evidence, and we rise up with pitchforks?
If people want something to bitch about, it should be the lack of source material. Can we at least be better than typical Facebook fodder here?
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If the vaccine pops up with a deadly side effect, who better than politicians to be first in line

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Well I'll tell you what, the (male) nurse in Tejas getting an injection from an empty syringe on live TV was certainly inspirational.

Regardless of my thoughts on the vaccine itself which I will refrain from discussing...if it's true the elderly have been moved down the list, that doesn't make a damn bit of sense. Aren't they why we're supposed to all be hermits in the first place?

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We are expendable.... until April 15th... then we are necessary. Imagine that.
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They are giving it to the vulnerable minority’s first..just to make sure
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Originally Posted by magua View Post
no issues with leadership trying to demonstrate that the vaccinations are safe. I wonder how many who called it a hoax are complaining about their spot on the list or someone they deem more important than others.

Amazing how grown ups act.
agree
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Originally Posted by magua View Post
Frontline HC workers and elderly nursing home patients should be at the front of the list imo.
Which is what the CDC recommends. Phase 1a being frontline healthcare and nursing home workers. Phase 1b is elderly. However it is up to individual states to decide.
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Introduction

On December 11, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued the first emergency use authorization (EUA) for a COVID-19 vaccine – the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine – followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s recommendation for use, clearing the way for delivery and administration of the vaccine throughout the country. Initially, supply will be very limited, meaning states have to make difficult decisions about who should get the first allocations.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/how...vaccine-first/
To help guide these decisions, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) released an interim recommendation on December 1 for the highest priority group (“Phase 1a”) to include health care workers (HCWs) and long-term care (LTC) residents; we estimate that this populations together represents about 17.6 million people. ACIP also provided further guidance regarding sub-prioritization within these groups. While ACIP has yet to finalize recommendations on subsequent prioritization (expected soon), according to presentations and materials provided in recent ACIP meetings, the committee is likely to recommend that (non-health care) essential workers be the next priority group (“Phase 1b”), followed by persons age 65 and older and those with conditions that place them at high risk for severe illness from COVID-19 (“Phase 1c”). These groups are much larger, which will likely make the next stages of prioritization much more difficult given that supply will still be limited (according to ACIP, there are an estimated 87 million essential workers, 53+ million seniors and more than 100 million individuals with high-risk medical conditions)."
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Originally Posted by magua View Post
Frontline HC workers and elderly nursing home patients should be at the front of the list imo.
They are
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Which is what the CDC recommends. Phase 1a being frontline healthcare and nursing home workers. Phase 1b is elderly. However it is up to individual states to decide.
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Introduction

On December 11, the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) issued the first emergency use authorization (EUA) for a COVID-19 vaccine – the Pfizer-BioNTech vaccine – followed by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC)’s recommendation for use, clearing the way for delivery and administration of the vaccine throughout the country. Initially, supply will be very limited, meaning states have to make difficult decisions about who should get the first allocations.

https://www.kff.org/policy-watch/how...vaccine-first/
To help guide these decisions, the CDC’s Advisory Committee on Immunization Practices (ACIP) released an interim recommendation on December 1 for the highest priority group (“Phase 1a”) to include health care workers (HCWs) and long-term care (LTC) residents; we estimate that this populations together represents about 17.6 million people. ACIP also provided further guidance regarding sub-prioritization within these groups. While ACIP has yet to finalize recommendations on subsequent prioritization (expected soon), according to presentations and materials provided in recent ACIP meetings, the committee is likely to recommend that (non-health care) essential workers be the next priority group (“Phase 1b”), followed by persons age 65 and older and those with conditions that place them at high risk for severe illness from COVID-19 (“Phase 1c”). These groups are much larger, which will likely make the next stages of prioritization much more difficult given that supply will still be limited (according to ACIP, there are an estimated 87 million essential workers, 53+ million seniors and more than 100 million individuals with high-risk medical conditions)."
Did you read what you posted? Phase 1b is essential workers

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