Opinions on Stolen Valor
#1
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I worked as a civilian for the United States Army for about seven years.
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
#3
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IMO stolen valor is more about what runs out of the mouth....not from wearing items that show support of our Military.
I suppose some can go to some extreme to fully dress every day and give off the visual impression...but a watch 'n jigger...nah.
I suppose some can go to some extreme to fully dress every day and give off the visual impression...but a watch 'n jigger...nah.
#5
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Nope. Stolen valor is pretending to be a veteran or active duty service. A watch doesn't do that. If you were wearing a uniform, or medals etc... that would be.
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#7
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Stolen Valor is when someone is trying to benefit from serving our country who never served. Wear your watch and mix your drinks with a very clear conscience.
#8
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I've got a watch from the Clinton Protective Service given to me by an actual Clinton Secret Service member. I'm not stealing anything when I wear it. And I'm pretty sure Bill wouldn't mind.


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I worked as a civilian for the United States Army for about seven years.
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
#10

I was at Lowes one time. When I opened my wallet the guy saw my CAC (DoD contractor) and applied the military discount. I said "I'm not military, I just work to support the military" he said "well I am military; and that's good enough for me"
Made me question the stolen valor thing too
Made me question the stolen valor thing too
#11
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You are not stealing valor or anything. I am a combat infantry vet. 10 times as many identify themselves as Vietnam Vets than ever served. Hell 90 % the real Vietnam Vets never saw combat either and those guys tell the best War stories.
It doesnt bother me at all. I look at it as flattery.
It doesnt bother me at all. I look at it as flattery.
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Stolen valor for bragging rights with the boys at the bar should be subject to a well deserved ass whipping by legit members/retired members of the military that have served their time. Civilians are welcome to reticule, but shouldn’t get a fist swinging pass.
stolen valor for profit should be subject to criminal charges, and restitution + interest on any financial implications.
stolen valor for profit should be subject to criminal charges, and restitution + interest on any financial implications.
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Stolen valor for bragging rights with the boys at the bar should be subject to a well deserved ass whipping by legit members/retired members of the military that have served their time. Civilians are welcome to reticule, but shouldn’t get a fist swinging pass.
stolen valor for profit should be subject to criminal charges, and restitution + interest on any financial implications.
stolen valor for profit should be subject to criminal charges, and restitution + interest on any financial implications.
This ^^ where is the like button?
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Thanks for the perspective guys.
I never say I was in the military. I proudly worked along side (in the same unit) with those that did. That's why I got the watch and the jigger.
The uniformed men and women I worked with loved having someone to take their weekend and night call. They all rank me. From the janitor to the General, I respect them all.
I will never refrain from teasing or accusing them of all kinds of irreverent things, but I will always be glad they wore the uniform.
I never say I was in the military. I proudly worked along side (in the same unit) with those that did. That's why I got the watch and the jigger.
The uniformed men and women I worked with loved having someone to take their weekend and night call. They all rank me. From the janitor to the General, I respect them all.
I will never refrain from teasing or accusing them of all kinds of irreverent things, but I will always be glad they wore the uniform.
#17
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We have USAA because my wife's father was army. And every time I call them they thank me for my service and it always irks me. Not the fact that they're doing it, I love that they are diligent about it. But there's just no good way to tell them up front.
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I worked as a civilian for the United States Army for about seven years.
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
I have a $39 dollar wristwatch with a US Army Star Logo on the face. I love that watch. Keeps better time than any other watch I own. Got if from ebay on a closeout deal.
I also have a US Army jigger I use to mix my gin. I bought that at one of the base convenience stores.
Am I stealing anyone's valor?
I am a veteran US Army Military Policeman
the answer to your question is No.
Simply Owning any "Army " article that You legally obtained ( gift or purchase ) Is Not a Violation.
Stolen Valor statutes can be found in US Code ( criminal ) for impersonating an enlisted person or impersonating an officer
You would have to claim to have been a service member ,such as : name , rank, serial number, Branch of Service , dates of service ETC ETC
There is also a UCMJ Article ( 107 - I think ) for any impersonation of a US service member