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Old 12-02-2020, 01:21 AM
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Just got back from visiting my son in Colorado. We both had tests before and after visit-thankfully negative. We had a great weekend. He was very excited about 2 side gigs he had arranged to further his career and make some extra dough while building his photography portfolio. 1 gig was a weekend photo shoot for a magazine, the other, bigger one was to travel to Washington state for a 4 day-long photo shoot on some island off the coast. Well one of his 'real-job' co-workers comes into work yesterday-she works in the neighboring cubicle and they use the same photo equipment and office equipment all day long. At the end of the day she is clearly not feeling well. She tells my son, oh yeah, my boyfriend has Covid and I'm getting tested tonight.... Well now my son is in quarantine scheduled for testing this morning and both side gigs are looking very tenuous now-they both want negative tests by Friday or they are going to their plan b for their projects w/o my son. He is devastated and pissed that someone would be so careless about exposing others and I feel helpless in talking him off the ledge. !%^#&$* people and covid.
Old 12-02-2020, 02:42 AM
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Its all about me. You gotta get with the times.

We just terminated an employee who just tested positive for covid. They were terminated because they lied on screening forms, hopped on a plane to vacation in Mexico. All while quarantined. The individual forgot to notify the employer of the unauthorized travel.
Old 12-02-2020, 03:29 AM
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Yes indeed the overwhelming selfishness in the name of personal freedom and rights is astounding. Throw in a soupçon of poor decision making skills and maybe financial/job insecurity and we have the mess we are in.
Old 12-02-2020, 04:14 AM
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That is a lousy situation for your son, but nothing he or you can do about it unfortunately. The chick should be dope slapped, or worse.
Old 12-02-2020, 04:16 AM
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Well, testing positive doesnt mean you are contagious.

And knowing someone or working with someone who has it doesn't make you automatically get it either.

There's little way of actually determining with any certainty where you got it as well..... Most people encounter dozens or hundreds of people per day...... Focusing on one person is somewhat circumstantial evidence.

Many healthcare workers were asked to keep working as long as they're not symptomatic.

It sucks.....but its what it is. You can associate with people, or you can become a hermit. Your choice. Your responsibile for YOU. No one else is! Quit blaming others! Everyone will get it eventually, or at least be exposed, barring an effective long-lasting vaccine.

Your don't quarantine because you might have been exposed to somebody who has not yet tested positive..... You don't even test normally until that other person has tested positive. Because most of the time .........they still come back negative. And even if they test positive, there's three days to get the results back often that people who maybe positive are not quarantined.

But let's be realistic also, who can actually quarantine themselves for 2 weeks........ And have somebody bring them everything they need and slide it under a door........ It's pretty much a fantasy if they feel well.



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Old 12-02-2020, 04:23 AM
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Drives me NUTS when you see sick people still going out 'n doing what brings them close to other people, when they are clearly sick. And I'm talking about ANY winter season in the past with whatever flu is going around for that season.

I'm all for high work attendance, work hard, and don't abuse sick days. But when you're sick...you're sick, don't drag your arse to work and go infect other people.
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Why would he not just go get a rapid test immediately and if negative as required, go on with his plans?
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Originally Posted by mbb View Post
Well, testing positive doesnt mean you are contagious.

And knowing someone or working with someone who has it doesn't make you automatically get it either.

There's little way of actually determining with any certainty where you got it as well..... Most people encounter dozens or hundreds of people per day...... Focusing on one person is somewhat circumstantial evidence.

Many healthcare workers were asked to keep working as long as they're not symptomatic.

It sucks.....but its what it is. You can associate with people, or you can become a hermit. Your choice. Your responsibile for YOU. No one else is! Quit blaming others! Everyone will get it eventually, or at least be exposed, barring an effective long-lasting vaccine.

Your don't quarantine because you might have been exposed to somebody who has not yet tested positive..... You don't even test normally until that other person has tested positive. Because most of the time .........they still come back negative.
it wouldn’t be a pretty good bet if your boyfriend whom you’ve been sucking tongue with, etc, has covid and girlfriend gets covid that’s where it came from...

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Originally Posted by mbb View Post

It sucks.....but its what it is. You can associate with people, or you can become a hermit. Your choice. Your responsibile for YOU. No one else is! Quit blaming others! Everyone will get it eventually, or at least be exposed, barring an effective long-lasting vaccine.
And here is where part of the problem lies. Yes, you are responsible for you, but you should also act responsibly for the sake of your fellow American/human/neighbor/relative/friend/co-worker. The attitude of only being responsible and caring for oneself is contributing to this mess.
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Bunch a judgmental mf’ers.
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Why would he not just go get a rapid test immediately and if negative as required, go on with his plans?
Because most people/employers/etc won't accept a negative rapid test, not sufficiently reliable.

The other issue is that many of the above also require X number of days since last contact before testing, at my work it's 5 days.

If someone in your household is positive, stay home. If you're sick, stay home. Not that difficult.
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Originally Posted by gumpire View Post
it wouldn’t be a pretty good bet if your boyfriend whom you’ve been sucking tongue with, etc, has covid and girlfriend gets covid that’s where it came from...
Assumptions about personal details you know nothing about.

Not that simple. Not everyone can stay home because 1 person is sick in house. Some people's jobs don't pay them when they stay home, and someone needs to shop and buy groceries. It's not a perfect world.

If you want to minimize your risk of exposure, you should stay home. And when you go out wear a mask, use hand sanitizer, and stay 6 ft away from all other people.

Somehow people working in hospitals and places don't all get it...... In spite of being around infected people a lot. Copious use of hand sanitizer, masks. Another thing is they take everybody's temperature when they come in..... Every workplace should be doing that.... Everyday. This is one of the things that Taiwan had in place that allowed them to have almost negligible transmission early on..... All businesses have thermal scanners at the door.



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Sue her ass in small claims court for the lost income she directly caused. Assuming his full time gig doesn’t bar moonlighting.
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Sucks but if you don't want Covid, act in a manner that will prevent you from getting it.

Don't rely on others to do the right thing.

Old 12-02-2020, 05:01 AM
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Was it an act of selfishness or stupidity? I feel like I'm swimming in a sea of stupidity most days.

That being said the whole quarantine thing is a scam. Exposed healthcare workers do not quarantine. We are told just to be aware of symptoms and take our temp daily and call employee health if anything comes up. We are not even swabbed.
Old 12-02-2020, 05:08 AM
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Try having kids pre-covid, my wife volunteered at the skrool. Other kids would show up in the morning with a fever puking rashes and the moms were like, he's fine, have a nice day see ya, then it turns out they have like some crazy psycho 3rd world sounding type infection I've never heard of. We home school. People are generally double digit IQ. If you assume everyone is dumb until they prove otherwise, you aren't let down. Manage expectations.
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All I hear is a lot of B?*tcHn
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All I hear is a lot of B?*tcHn
And here you are......... contributing
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Seems some are jumping to a whole lot of conclusions here.

I don't know of any workplace or CDC guidance that requires one to quarantine for exposure to someone who had exposure to someone who was positive. Sure it might be wise but there is no official guidance, if there were, we would all likely be in quarantine becuase we don;t know who "might" have it that has not yet tested.

Guidance states you voluntarily quarantine if you have exposure (15 minutes or more within 6') to someone who has tested positive.

Some workplaces also have a rule that you must voluntarily quarantine for 10 days after traveling out of state, or being in close contact with those who have travelled from out of state. (like your son was when you visited him, technically you should have quarantined upon arrival)

Guidance for some states is also to show a negative test taken 72 hours prior to arrival within a state if traveling or quarantine for 14 days upon arrival.

For instance... On Nov. 13, 2020, Gov. Jay Inslee issued a travel advisory that recommends people arriving in Washington from other states or countries, including returning Washington residents, should practice self-quarantine for 14 days after arrival. These individuals should also limit their interactions to their immediate household. This recommendation does not apply to individuals who cross state or country borders for essential travel, to include work and study, critical infrastructure support and immediate medical care. As of Nov. 17, Gov. Inslee issued new guidelines for indoor gatherings with people outside the household.

I guess your sons moonlighting could roughly be translated as "work and study" but it is not essential and in doing so, he could be placing others at risk at the same level as what you are blasting his co-worker for.

Bottom line... we are all exposed, we are all exposing, and we will all get it at some point. I take issue with those who do not take extra precaution around those who are particularly at risk such as the immune compromised, and elderly. Past that its every man/woman for themselves.

I spoke with my sister in OH yesterday. She thought she had a sinus infection for the past week. It got worse and she started with fever. Went to ER and they diagnosed her as having viral pneumonia and severely dehydrated. Gave her a covid test and sent her home with a bag of drugs to quarantine/recover. She is still awaiting test result. Her husband has been working during the last week. Should all of his co-workers quarantine? He is floor production supervisor, if they all quarantine, the whole plant will need to shut down.

These are tough times. Fact is, less than 10% of those who test, test positive. Do you shut the whole country down for that when we all will get it at some point or just keep things moving and hope for the best.

I am concerned about my sister. She may die. She has many risk factors. At the same time, she could get hit by a truck driving to work and die. Life is full of risks. We do our best and move on.
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It is about Honor , Respect , Courtesy .

Something that has been in very short supply for awhile now .

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