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Old 11-16-2020, 10:08 AM
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Long story made short.
My 81 year old dad is in the hospital, and his 45 year old slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head, wife has blocked my siblings and I from seeing him or getting any feedback.
Hospital will not even tell us he is there.

we know he is because he called his sister.

Is there a legal remedy?
Old 11-16-2020, 10:13 AM
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HIPAA applies to everyone, everywhere, all the time, in all cases.

Except covid.

For this single virus, governors, police agencies, and myriad others of our overlords have decided that HIPPA is not applicable and that you will obey whatever the usual slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head moron decides is the policy for today.
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Originally Posted by wdkerek View Post
Long story made short.
My 81 year old dad is in the hospital, and his 45 year old slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head, wife has blocked my siblings and I from seeing him or getting any feedback.
Hospital will not even tell us he is there.

we know he is because he called his sister.

Is there a legal remedy?
does she have legal power of attorney or legal caregiver status? If yes, not much you can do. He can give permission for the hospital to share info with you, or his legal representative can (may be her).
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
HIPAA applies to everyone, everywhere, all the time, in all cases.

Except covid.

For this single virus, governors, police agencies, and myriad others of our overlords have decided that HIPPA is not applicable and that you will obey whatever the usual slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head moron decides is the policy for today.
WTF does COVID have to do with the OP?
Old 11-16-2020, 10:30 AM
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Originally Posted by SalmonDaze View Post
HIPAA applies to everyone, everywhere, all the time, in all cases.

Except covid.

For this single virus, governors, police agencies, and myriad others of our overlords have decided that HIPPA is not applicable and that you will obey whatever the usual slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head moron decides is the policy for today.
Forget to take your meds?
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when my mom was in the hospital for a myriad of things, they would not tell me anything about her condition until she made me her medical power of attorney.
doctors would even ask her if she would like us to leave the room when they came in to discuss procedures and such.

his wife has automatic power of attorney I believe through marriage, you as a child do not.
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Originally Posted by wdkerek View Post
Long story made short.
Is there a legal remedy?
I doubt you have any legal remedy, and if there was one it would be really expensive.
Were you and your dad close? He did not choose to make you his power of attorney so this may just be part of his decision.
When I took my brother to rehab they wouldn't even confirm he had not checked himself out or if he was even still there. I know it can be frustrating.
Sorry about your situation.
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Hey OP, don’t beat around the bush, tell us how you really feel!
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Pic of 45 year old slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head, wife?
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I’m a healthcare provider and hipaa compliance officer. Not much you can do here.

The hospital, under hipaa laws, may under certain circumstances contact family members regarding a patients status. Since the wife is already aware, however, they would be unlikely to do so. He called his sister, so sounds as if he is of right mind. If so, he can allow the hospital to share info with you. He could certainly call you. Is it possible he does not want you involved?

The only possible remedy is to contact the hospital, let them know you are a family member of X patient and you know the patient is admitted in their facility. Let them know that you know they cannot provide you with any info, but ask if they could ask the patient to call you. They may give a message from you to the patient but couldn’t tell you they would or did. They would not be required to do so, but also would not be required to not do so per hipaa regs. You could take it one step further and ask to speak with the hipaa compliance officer and indicate you just want to get a message to the patient to call you. You will get an “I can’t confirm or deny that X is here”. But nothing stopping the hospital from letting him know you are trying to reach him. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.

If he is not of decision making capability, you will be relying on the wife. And there is not much you can do about it.


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Originally Posted by Samd007 View Post
Pic of 45 year old slut, tramp, drunk, whore, crack head, wife?
:-) sounds like a good time
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If he's capable, you father could authorize communication between the doctors, caregivers and you. You don't need his wife's permission. If your father is in a condition that won't allow him to sign the HIPPA form, then yes, you have to follow what his wife says.
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believe wife is first in line to make decisions, if he is sound of mind, doesnt really matter, he is obviously choosing to not tell you!

most likely due to the fact he knows how you feel about the wife! doesnt want the drama especially while he is sick!
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When I'm 81, I want one of those...
Old 11-16-2020, 11:18 AM
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
does she have legal power of attorney or legal caregiver status? If yes, not much you can do. He can give permission for the hospital to share info with you, or his legal representative can (may be her).
Actually a sister has power of attorney. But we were told that even that does not supersede hipaa
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Originally Posted by coastboater View Post
When I'm 81, I want one of those...
trust me, you do not.
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
I’m a healthcare provider and hipaa compliance officer. Not much you can do here.

The hospital, under hipaa laws, may under certain circumstances contact family members regarding a patients status. Since the wife is already aware, however, they would be unlikely to do so. He called his sister, so sounds as if he is of right mind. If so, he can allow the hospital to share info with you. He could certainly call you. Is it possible he does not want you involved?

The only possible remedy is to contact the hospital, let them know you are a family member of X patient and you know the patient is admitted in their facility. Let them know that you know they cannot provide you with any info, but ask if they could ask the patient to call you. They may give a message from you to the patient but couldn’t tell you they would or did. They would not be required to do so, but also would not be required to not do so per hipaa regs. You could take it one step further and ask to speak with the hipaa compliance officer and indicate you just want to get a message to the patient to call you. You will get an “I can’t confirm or deny that X is here”. But nothing stopping the hospital from letting him know you are trying to reach him. Maybe they will, maybe they won’t.

If he is not of decision making capability, you will be relying on the wife. And there is not much you can do about it.
Thanks!
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My take..HIPPA is one of those stupid ass feel good policies which is BS in reality. There's no privacy in the medical community. All HIPPA does is use paper for disclosures about what it does and doesn't allow.

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Originally Posted by wdkerek View Post
Actually a sister has power of attorney. But we were told that even that does not supersede hipaa
Depending on the state, the POA might need to be specified as for healthcare purposes. If it is, she could speak to the docs legally.
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Originally Posted by bone-a-fide View Post
Depending on the state, the POA might need to be specified as for healthcare purposes. If it is, she could speak to the docs legally.
Louisiana, thanks!

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