tprice

Looking at getting a suppressor for my 270, hunt with it at SIL/Daughters place a lot and some houses around . See a ton of deer there I rarely shoot but their place is covered up with hogs May even do some night hunting for hogs after deer season

I know you have to set up a trust and get the stamps, guy on local web site has all the info you need and will walk you through the entire process plus sell you the suppressor’s

Are they worth the trouble , only looking at one for my 270 and may end up putting one on my AR as well

autobaun70

Definitely worth the trouble. Don’t have to do a trust, but makes it cleaner. There are some multi caliber cans out there that can run on a 30 or so call all the way down. Let’s them be used in multiple guns.


all members of the trust will have to submit fingerprint cards. Can in theory set it up under just yourself and add son/SIL, etc. after you receive the suppressor(s). Once added they will have to submit cards for any future purchases.

mikefloyd

One thing to consider is the suppressor will only suppress the sound from the shot it will do nothing to suppress the crack when the bullet goes super sonic.

Fishingwell

It doesn’t really make it easier any more IMO to do the trust since you have to submit fingerprints and pictures any way unless you want multiple people to be able to use it.

I have done it both ways.

To answer your question, super sonic .270 ammo through a suppressor still has a pretty good crack to it. To really get full use out of a suppressor you need a cartridge with good subsonic offerings, and obviously a gun with a threaded barrel.

I have a few hunting situations that require suppressors

.300 blackout is an easy argument for the best subsonic cartridge because of the accuracy with low powder charges.

Killing deer sized game with a subsonic bullet is tough. I have been 100% successful with Hornady 190 sub x bullets. You can’t consistently kill with just any run of the mill sub bullet.

So I guess my question to you would be, how quietly do you have to kill?

If you were going to suppress a .270 the .30 Omega from silencerco is a good option.

autobaun70

Biggest advantage of a trust is not the ease of purchase....its the ease to allow multiple people to have legal access to the NFA item without additional paperwork or cost, or the requirement of your presence.

Re: Night shooting....dig in to the SC laws on that. Last time I checked you have to be shooting subsonic and from elevation to do it without a specific permit, at least for coyotes. Not sure if that applies to hogs or not. Also pretty sure you have to register specific plots of land with DNR so that they don't have to respond if they get calls for deer poaching. Not sure of all the details...but definitely dig into them.

99yam40

I did not think high powered rifles could be suppressed much to make a difference, but it would reduce flash and some sound.
never mind just saw the post a couple spots above

debugger

I would only do a trust if you were planning on loaning it to a trustee. I don't loan my guns out since it could be a liability.

99yam40

can only someone in the trust shoot with it,
or can someone else use it when the owner is with them?

autobaun70

it quiets them down a lot, just doesn’t make them nearly silent like a subsonic round such as a .22 or a 300 blackout.

Hjudge49

I have a suppressor on my 7MM SAUM and it quiets it down some and reduces the recoil. As others said, it isn’t going to be silent unless you shoot subsonic rounds. My .300 blackout with suppressor and subsonic is very quiet, but I don’t use it for deer. I’m not comfortable with it out past 100 yards. The biggest benefit of a suppressed high power rifle is that it saves your hearing. As to the gun trust, I have one and have two of my suppressors in it, but the other two are in my individual name. I understand the wait time with ATFE is longer for a trust than an individual.

autobaun70

Anyone in the trust can be in possession of the item. They allow anyone they are physically present with to use the item. They can’t loan it out or allow anyone else to possess the item without being added to the trust. Without a trust only the owner has those rights and abilities, and if/when they pass their heir(s) must go through the tax stamp process, and legally are not supposed to own/possess the item until it has gone through. In my case I purchased a single suppressor, and after the fact added my dad/brother/uncle and wife. No paperwork has to be filed with atf, so as far as they know I’m the only one in the trust. If I buy something else this will prevent having to have everyone turn in fingerprint cards. For this to work legally they will need to temporarily be removed from the trust and added back later.

cracked_ribs

I can't comment on the legal aspects because I never followed US laws about NFA stuff closely enough to know anything useful (and in Canada they're prohibited).

But from a usage perspective, any time I have had the option of suppressing a rifle, even the 300winmag etc, I've found it worthwhile. Just reducing the blast a bit pays off over time. I am trying to preserve what I assume to be the last remaining nerve cell in my ears and would hunt with a suppressed rifle here if I could. Shaving off even 10dB is still loud but it's a big reduction at the same time.

gfretwell

This month's American Rifleman has an article about a company that handles the whole suppressor transaction and ships it directly to you. I didn't see a price tho.

SeaPro48

While this is true, to the shooter, the suppressor makes it hearing friendly. The first round will still be a little louder.

Get a 30 cal titanium can, 5/8s x 24 threads. You can use it on everything from a 300 winmag to a 243.

Also, they get too long quickly. You will find yourself wanting a shorter barrel rifle, so stay away from overbores (243 vs 308 for instance) as they lose more velocity per inch the barrel is shortened. A good solid stock helps support the can also. Just things to keep in mind.

Good luck! Vote!

tprice

So you do not have to do a trust ????

Let me ask this , not planning on going anywhere but stuff happens. What happens when suppressor owner dies ?


In all honesty I would be the only one using it, Neither Son or SIL shoot guns much at all

autobaun70

$200 tax per item to transfer it to the new owner. Cost about the same to set up a trust through an attorney, and there are less expensive options out there. Other than ease of inheritance, it would allow easy legal possession of you for instance wanted to just leave your suppressed gun at your SIL’s house rather than carting it back and forth. Mine is on my truck gun, and with my brother and I and father and I constantly using each other’s vehicles just made sense there to have them in it just in case. To get real technical even your wife isn’t supposed to have access to it without your presence if you own it individually. My wife doesn’t shoot at all, but is on the trust simply because she has the combination to the safe for storing jewelry and drives my truck in occasion with the gun/suppressor inside. In short, a small one time fee will save you money going forward in terms of inheritance and give you versatility day to day.

cphilip

The primary reason there should not be an NFA restriction on Suppressors is that their primary use is to make the gun hearing safe.

No, you do not need a trust to own one. The rest has been explained to some extent. Who knows what the future laws will bring? Even a trust may become a waste of time.

KismetLRC

Only the owner(s) or those identified on a Trust may use it.

KismetLRC

I've purchased several through this site - it's pretty seamless. (all are in a trust because they'll go to my son when I'm gone - and he shoots with me sometimes)
https://www.silencershop.com/how-to-buy-a-silencer

autobaun70

There is no restriction on others using it, so long as the owner or trustee is present.