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I have a question regarding a lake that I used to enjoy fishing at that has been for all practical purposes taking over by rowing competitions. What they have done is put up these lane markers that stretch for about 2 miles or so that I used to be able to troll at. The markers are 8 lanes across nearly shore to shore. I would estimate there are a few hundred buoys in total out there making it literally impossible to fish this entire area. The markers are left there for much of the season too. My question is do you think that this is legal for them to be doing this? This is not a private body of water either. The lake is stocked with fish by the state and has state owned boat ramps. The lake is not very wide but 4 miles long. Sure, I could fish the shallow end of the lake for warm water fish but do they have a right to have essentially taken our chance to troll for deep water fish by creating this navigational mine field? They have been doing this for several years now. I just don't understand how they get away with this ... any thoughts? Thanks.
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I have a question regarding a lake that I used to enjoy fishing at that has been for all practical purposes taking over by rowing competitions. What they have done is put up these lane markers that stretch for about 2 miles or so that I used to be able to troll at. The markers are 8 lanes across nearly shore to shore. I would estimate there are a few hundred buoys in total out there making it literally impossible to fish this entire area. The markers are left there for much of the season too. My question is do you think that this is legal for them to be doing this? This is not a private body of water either. The lake is stocked with fish by the state and has state owned boat ramps. The lake is not very wide but 4 miles long. Sure, I could fish the shallow end of the lake for warm water fish but do they have a right to have essentially taken our chance to troll for deep water fish by creating this navigational mine field? They have been doing this for several years now. I just don't understand how they get away with this ... any thoughts? Thanks.
I would contact your local DNR office and get their opinion.
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I have a question regarding a lake that I used to enjoy fishing at that has been for all practical purposes taking over by rowing competitions. What they have done is put up these lane markers that stretch for about 2 miles or so that I used to be able to troll at. The markers are 8 lanes across nearly shore to shore. I would estimate there are a few hundred buoys in total out there making it literally impossible to fish this entire area. The markers are left there for much of the season too. My question is do you think that this is legal for them to be doing this? This is not a private body of water either. The lake is stocked with fish by the state and has state owned boat ramps. The lake is not very wide but 4 miles long. Sure, I could fish the shallow end of the lake for warm water fish but do they have a right to have essentially taken our chance to troll for deep water fish by creating this navigational mine field? They have been doing this for several years now. I just don't understand how they get away with this ... any thoughts? Thanks.
A private lake behind where a buddy used to live was stocked w. fish. That said you provided no information regarding ownership of the lake so impossible for anyone to provide an answer so suggest you contact your local city, county, or state representative.
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I have a question regarding a lake that I used to enjoy fishing at that has been for all practical purposes taking over by rowing competitions. What they have done is put up these lane markers that stretch for about 2 miles or so that I used to be able to troll at. The markers are 8 lanes across nearly shore to shore. I would estimate there are a few hundred buoys in total out there making it literally impossible to fish this entire area. The markers are left there for much of the season too. My question is do you think that this is legal for them to be doing this? This is not a private body of water either. The lake is stocked with fish by the state and has state owned boat ramps. The lake is not very wide but 4 miles long. Sure, I could fish the shallow end of the lake for warm water fish but do they have a right to have essentially taken our chance to troll for deep water fish by creating this navigational mine field? They have been doing this for several years now. I just don't understand how they get away with this ... any thoughts? Thanks.
They have a rowing venue here at the north end of the lake, the only inconvenience is that's its no wake zone but it's not that bad and doesn't interfere at all with fishing. There also one on the river, I think it's great the high school kids do crew but again it doesn't interfere with anything as far as I can tell. Wonder Why would they need so many markers, neither here has that many that Ive seen just buoys


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A private lake behind where a buddy used to live was stocked w. fish. That said you provided no information regarding ownership of the lake so impossible for anyone to provide an answer so suggest you contact your local city, county, or state representative.
Third line down on the right "This is not a private body of water". States the lake is almost 4 miles long, that would be one long private lake unless it's in Texas!
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Go fish and if you happen to get tangled up in a marker, just cut it.
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Originally Posted by PF-88 View Post
Third line down on the right "This is not a private body of water". States the lake is almost 4 miles long, that would be one long private lake unless it's in Texas!
I'm sure we all appreciate your "constructive" criticism and the "valuable" information you provided the OP.
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In Michigan you need to get a use permit to do anything like what you are describing. They can't legally do what they are doing in navigable public waters.
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Damn rowing teams suck. Had a women’s collegiate team when I was at Clemson. No issue with them, but their “course” was right in the main channel on lake hartwell, and when they decided to practice they thought they had the right to make people quit whatever activity they were doing so they could row and the coach yap over a bull horn. They have docks right on the edge of campus and practice right by them, despite it not being a spot conducive for such without blocking a major part of the main lake channel. There was also a ski club that was active. They club would go by boat several miles away to an appropriate spot to practice. Never could understand why they needed a formal course for practice, or why it had an inherent need to be convenient to them while disrupting most other lane users.
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Or they could just cancel the crew program and then the kids could retreat back to the basement and immerse themselves in a good game of Fortnight......


As mentioned contact your local officials and lodge your complaint with them, or fish another part of the lakes, 4 miles covers a huge area.
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How about contacting the rowing club, and having a chat with the management?
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Are there signs at the ramp regarding these?
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Damn rowing teams suck. Had a women’s collegiate team when I was at Clemson. No issue with them, but their “course” was right in the main channel on lake hartwell, and when they decided to practice they thought they had the right to make people quit whatever activity they were doing so they could row and the coach yap over a bull horn. They have docks right on the edge of campus and practice right by them, despite it not being a spot conducive for such without blocking a major part of the main lake channel. There was also a ski club that was active. They club would go by boat several miles away to an appropriate spot to practice. Never could understand why they needed a formal course for practice, or why it had an inherent need to be convenient to them while disrupting most other lane users.
Im going to guess that Woman's Crew had just started about the time you got there? It was a club sport before they decided, for title 9 compliance, to start Womens Crew up as an NCAA sanctioned sport. There was a lot of hard feelings over that from the mens club as they were kicked out of their boat house and the women took over the whole area including the recreational beach where students used to go to swim and party on campus. Nice area, nice beach, had a concession stand, life guards. Even had bands out there and stuff at times. All that is gone now. Normal people not allowed. Now the U has taken over the old Y beach and its moving there but its been a large span of years the students had not beach access like that once Crew took it over. And its not as easy walking distance.There were even a few private scows stored in that boat barn that got kicked out. The mens crew now exists under the old water intake across the bridge and yes, Crew leaves their lanes up al the time. Takes over everything past the waste water treatment plant and hosts a lot of out of town Crews too for spring breaks. Because we can row all year down here so they come from places like Yale and Harvard... even the military academies come down here.... Or used to until Covid put a damper on it for the time being.

The ski club still has its jump up the 12 mile river. Stays there all the time but its sort of out of the way like you say. Not bothering anyone. Its good structure.
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Im going to guess that Woman's Crew had just started about the time you got there? It was a club sport before they decided, for title 9 compliance, to start Womens Crew up as an NCAA sanctioned sport. There was a lot of hard feelings over that from the mens club as they were kicked out of their boat house and the women took over the whole area including the recreational beach where students used to go to swim and party on campus. Nice area, nice beach, had a concession stand, life guards. Even had bands out there and stuff at times. All that is gone now. Normal people not allowed. Now the U has taken over the old Y beach and its moving there but its been a large span of years the students had not beach access like that once Crew took it over. And its not as easy walking distance.There were even a few private scows stored in that boat barn that got kicked out. The mens crew now exists under the old water intake across the bridge and yes, Crew leaves their lanes up al the time. Takes over everything past the waste water treatment plant and hosts a lot of out of town Crews too for spring breaks. Because we can row all year down here so they come from places like Yale and Harvard... even the military academies come down here.... Or used to until Covid put a damper on it for the time being.

The ski club still has its jump up the 12 mile river. Stays there all the time but its sort of out of the way like you say. Not bothering anyone. Its good structure.
that sounds about right. I was there from 2000 until 2004. I wasn’t in the sailing club, but hung out there a good bit, and often kept a boat overnight there. It wasn’t uncommon to take out the sailing clubs large boat (I believe it is a C&C 33 and be out sailing only to be shut down by the bull d*k* with her hull horn declaring it to essentially be their private water.
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that sounds about right. I was there from 2000 until 2004. I wasn’t in the sailing club, but hung out there a good bit, and often kept a boat overnight there. It wasn’t uncommon to take out the sailing clubs large boat (I believe it is a C&C 33 and be out sailing only to be shut down by the bull d*k* with her hull horn declaring it to essentially be their private water.
Yep Sailing Club is over behind the Y barn beach area behind it in the cove. They have a nice dock and a lot of boats over there. I did a clean up of old boats grounded over there a few years back. For some reason the U had received them as gifts or something. And most of them were junk now. Dry rotted out and derelict. The Corp of Engineers asked them to clean them up. I had to crawl a big Excavator down the bank and grab them up and carry them back up and crunch them into some roll off bins and haul them to landfill. I managed to recover a nice brass propeller and a really nice Lead keel from there. But otherwise they have a nice place back there now. Im sure they are hindered by the rowing lanes even still. Bu they can exit the cove, circle around before there and come back if they want.

IIRC the beach area she got was called East Beach. And was long a great recreational place for all students.
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Yep Sailing Club is over behind the Y barn beach area behind it in the cove. They have a nice dock and a lot of boats over there. I did a clean up of old boats grounded over there a few years back. For some reason the U had received them as gifts or something. And most of them were junk now. Dry rotted out and derelict. The Corp of Engineers asked them to clean them up. I had to crawl a big Excavator down the bank and grab them up and carry them back up and crunch them into some roll off bins and haul them to landfill. I managed to recover a nice brass propeller and a really nice Lead keel from there. But otherwise they have a nice place back there now. Im sure they are hindered by the rowing lanes even still. Bu they can exit the cove, circle around before there and come back if they want.

IIRC the beach area she got was called East Beach. And was long a great recreational place for all students.
one of those was an old swing keel Chrysler. My cousin donated it (vp of student affairs at the time). Slowest boat I’ve ever sailed on in my life. Retractable was nice in that we took it up on jocassee a few times before she donated it to the club.
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Thanks for the replies.. I gotta make some phone calls I guess.
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I would take a loud go-fast boat out for a spin during their practice

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Thanks for the replies.. I gotta make some phone calls I guess.
If the team / coach is a dick then just wake ‘em - gunnel height is very low on everything but the heavyweights.

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