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Would you put vinyl flooring or engineered hardwood in a 1.4m dollar house? Flooding not a concern. Busy, large family and dogs.
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Originally Posted by baitkiller View Post
Would you put vinyl flooring or engineered hardwood in a 1.4m dollar house? Flooding not a concern. Busy, large family and dogs.
Neither.....real hardwood.
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I do not like engineered wood at all
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No. As someone who does this for a living, the high end plank laminates are as good if not better. The consumer in nearly all cases doesn't know the difference. The only difference is the listing won't say "hardwood floors" which isn't an issue with anyone with any marketing ability. Frankly, I have handscraped engineered and I hope my next house has lvl.
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Vinyl is garbage in climates like FL and Louisiana, I don't care what the sale rep tells you, don't do it. Even the great new fancy stuff that they promise not to shrink, shrinks.

If I was going to buy a 1.4mil home or build, it would have real hard wood.
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Regardless of what you decide on, make sure the finish contains aluminum oxide. It triples the scratch resistance and with a dog, and sand, that’s really important.

I put engineered wood in my previous home and when we built this one I went LVL. 3,700 sq.ft of it and I’m a fan now. The LVL pattern my wife chose looks more like wood than engineered wood. A friend who’s a gifted woodworker asked me where I found so much aged ashwood in 5” width. It’s beautiful, quiet and totally stable in changing humidity. The engineered wood creaked a lot and moved a lot when the weather changed. It never buckled but it closed the entire perimeter gap when it expanded.
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Not at that price point. I had it at my farm house and loved it but would rule it out it in a house over about $400K. Above that they're expect finished in place hardwood and really nice porcelain or stone.

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What is the difference in price?
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Originally Posted by midcap View Post
Vinyl is garbage in climates like FL and Louisiana, I don't care what the sale rep tells you, don't do it. Even the great new fancy stuff that they promise not to shrink, shrinks.

If I was going to buy a 1.4mil home or build, it would have real hard wood.
As for the shrinking, it won't if you have it in the house with climate control set properly for a week. But if you try to install day of delivery, you are screwed. But hardwood does that as well.
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There is no perfect flooring. However, I’m very happy with our vinyl wood planks.

Durability is probably the biggest downside to real wood. Talked to a lot of people with real wood that have to redo it all when they didn’t want to. Water, scratches, warping etc. It’s also noisy.

Beautiful? Yes! But I never wanted to deal with all the downsides.

Downside of vinyl? I got the more expensive stuff and it was more $ than wood. Also, anything “fake” tends to go out of style faster than natural materials. The good thing is no one seems to be able to tell its vinyl. Even in the showroom looking closely next to wood it’s hard to tell.



As far as “value” goes. If you’re flipping the home, it matters. If living there for 10 years then selling? No matter what you pick, the next people are probably going to think it looks “dated” and will rip it out and replace it with whatever is trendy in the year 2030.

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Real wood
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I think you meant “LVP”
LVL is structural (Laminated Veneer Lumber)
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Originally Posted by xl883lo View Post
Neither.....real hardwood.
This ^^^
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LVT- Linear Vinyl Tile has become quite popular and there is a HUGE range of price points and quality levels. The floor prep is the key. I have had a few installs fail in Florida so I am still not on the LVT bandwagon. If it was my house I would use hardwood or porcelain plank tile.
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Originally Posted by xl883lo View Post
Neither.....real hardwood.
This
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Lab owner here, with several waterfront homes in the past. The LVL is durable, but I prefer the tile, that looks like wood. Dogs cannot hurt it, and it takes a very good eye to determine that it is not wood. Real wood is awesome, but won't look that way long with wet dogs.
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Not wanting to step on another post but one of my pet peeves is square ceramic tile set in a square pattern.
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Originally Posted by mikefloyd View Post
Not wanting to step on another post but one of my pet peeves is square ceramic tile set in a square pattern.
No worries, we don’t like that tile either. It was put down by the previous owners in 1994, but getting rid of it will be a bit more of a project. The vinyl wood planks replaced old 1994 carpet in the living rooms, so that had to go first.

As far as “pet peeves” go, that one is oddly specific! Is it all square things you hate?
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Originally Posted by xl883lo View Post
Neither.....real hardwood.
This ^^
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In a house with a 1.4 mil price tag I would opt for real hardwood or a high quality engineered . A lot of people not in the industry or not very floor savey have a image in their mind of what "engineered" floor is and its a negative image . We currently have in our warehouse a 4" 6" 8" and 10" unfinished engineered that is 3/4 thick and VERY much a high end floor going in a high end property in western NC mountain home . The reason for "engineered" in this application is stability . The end result will be every bit as beautiful and long lasting as a "real wood" because engineered floor is real wood . It will not however cup and be as at risk of seasonal movement with engineered core . I personally have no problem with luxury vinyl and sell 100's of thousands of feet of it . I personally don't think luxury vinyl has a place in a 1.4 mil house unless its in a basement or laundry / mud room . Even then I am likely doing a nice tile or something not vinyl .

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