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Old 01-14-2007, 12:38 PM
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Any ideas on what I should do to remove a cartridge from a bathroom sink faucet. I have removed the handle and the U-shaped retaining clip, but I cannot get the cartridge to come out. I have pulled using large pliers and hit it some with a plastic hammer, but it is still stuck. Do I keep beating on it until it loosens up, apply heat with a heat gun or torch (I hesitate to do the torch), or what?


The faucet is about 10 years old and it is the standard single pull twist left or right for hot/cold water. It is a brass cartridge.

I can't bo boating until I get it fixed.

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I have to assume you are able to rotate the cartridge inside the faucet body because chances are you were able to get hot and cold out of the taps.

Ok so everything is apart and the cartridge won't come out but rotates....what's holding the cartridge in is the O-rings, probably four of them. Here's what I'd do:
- tightly clamp a large pair of vise grips onto what I'll call it the head of the cartridge, the part that is sticking out and where the screw goes in.
- take a small portion of a 2 x 4 and place it as close to the taps as possible and then use a crow bar or sturdy long screwdriver and pry using the 2 x 4 and the jaws of the vise grips.
* this prying action must be done straight upwards.
* remember it is only the O-rings holding it in!

I have had to climb up onto the counter and pull with my legs as I've hung onto the vise grips.
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What Make is the faucett?
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Old 01-14-2007, 04:45 PM
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nanjemoycat - 1/14/2007 1:02 PMWhat Make is the faucett?
The faucet is a Moen.

It has the following numbers engraved on it:

4000 27000 64000

24000 84000 Series
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Garett - 1/14/2007 12:55 PMI have to assume you are able to rotate the cartridge inside the faucet body because chances are you were able to get hot and cold out of the taps.Ok so everything is apart and the cartridge won't come out but rotates....what's holding the cartridge in is the O-rings, probably four of them. Here's what I'd do:- tightly clamp a large pair of vise grips onto what I'll call it the head of the cartridge, the part that is sticking out and where the screw goes in.- take a small portion of a 2 x 4 and place it as close to the taps as possible and then use a crow bar or sturdy long screwdriver and pry using the 2 x 4 and the jaws of the vise grips.* this prying action must be done straight upwards.* remember it is only the O-rings holding it in!I have had to climb up onto the counter and pull with my legs as I've hung onto the vise grips.
You are correct, the faucet was working fine except that it was dripping. You would think they would have a puller that screws into the cartdrige and pulls it out as you tighten it.
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Old 01-14-2007, 05:12 PM
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They do make a puller, never used one thou. Use your channel locks, grip down on the exposed brass stem, with a downward motion against the valve body force the stem up. Make sure the horseshoe clip is removed and don't be afraid to get rough with it.
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Frank are you still struggling with that darn thing? If so, get ugly with it. Clamp the vise grips on it and yank it upwards then drive it down, then yank it upwards then drive it down, then yank it upwards harder then drive it down......keep doing this until it comes out! As I said earlier, it is only old hard O-rings holding it in.
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You guys did it! Pushing down as well as up broke it free using the channel locks. I tried the vice grips but I think I got a better angle with the channel locks. Thanks for all of your help! Now I have to go get a replacement tomorrow and we are back in business.
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I know THATS RIGHT!!!

Get jiggy with it!!!

YOU go FRANK007!!!

I'm proud of ya, boy!





Oopsl.l.....I'm sroyyy - I'm 6 glasses of Chardonnay into this and nto quite my self.
I knew you could do it ht gouth!
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It is fixed. The cartridge cost $20 at Home Depot, which is higher than I thought it would be. Perhaps I got the 14K gold one. The packaging says there is a cartridge extraction tool - Moen part #13705.
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Frank007 - 1/17/2007 10:32 PM

It is fixed. The cartridge cost $20 at Home Depot, which is higher than I thought it would be. Perhaps I got the 14K gold one. The packaging says there is a cartridge extraction tool - Moen part #13705.
WOW - 20 bucks. Up here they are free! Moen as far back as I can remember have always been guaranteed for life.

Either way 20 bucks is still a cheap fix..........glad to here things worked out for you.
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Garett - 1/18/2007 8:04 AM

Frank007 - 1/17/2007 10:32 PM

It is fixed. The cartridge cost $20 at Home Depot, which is higher than I thought it would be. Perhaps I got the 14K gold one. The packaging says there is a cartridge extraction tool - Moen part #13705.
WOW - 20 bucks. Up here they are free! Moen as far back as I can remember have always been guaranteed for life.

Either way 20 bucks is still a cheap fix..........glad to here things worked out for you.




send it to moen and they will send you a new one.keep it for a spare.
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I have only one thing to say!!!!! Moen Cartridges form a vacuum to hold the thing in. to remove one easy. once the handle and retaining clip is removed, You only have to twist the white plastic cartridge left or right. not the brass stem once you twist the plastic it will pull out by hand. I have the tool but never use it I just twist it with needle nose plyers and then pull it out with same.
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Old 01-21-2007, 04:37 PM
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In HD yesterday, I noticed the Danner replacement for Moen is 7.95. Would have been a better choice but it wasn't there when I bought. I will follow your advice and check with Moen for their lifetime warranty.
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