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Old 10-04-2020, 07:20 PM
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Default Chain saw Wars, part 2, sharpening

We're at the stage where I have to let the workers use my chain saws and they must not know that dirt/sand dulls chains fast. I have a portable sharpener with replaceable stones, but am at the point of wanting something that is fool-proof to the point that somebody else can do it and still get pro results.

What do you guys use that makes chains sharp without the cost being prohibitive for occasional use people?
Old 10-04-2020, 07:23 PM
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I have to constantly remind them that it is a saw, not a trencher!
i use a bench sharpener, and keep multiple chains sharp and ready so they just switch them out.
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Dremmel with a sharpen kit.
Old 10-04-2020, 07:34 PM
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the ones with the grinding disc seem to work OK, but have to be set properly each time for proper angle and depth,
and just touch the chain the same each time

and make sure the bar is cleaned if they are cutting dirt
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Stihl 2in1 filing guide. Available in 1/4P, 3/8P, .325 & 3/8 size. Works great in field with stumpvise or at home with bench vise. About $38.00 each.
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Originally Posted by ttwo View Post
Stihl 2in1 filing guide. Available in 1/4P, 3/8P, .325 & 3/8 size. Works great in field with stumpvise or at home with bench vise. About $38.00 each.
Is that electric, or manual? I have an electric grinder, just looking for something that they won't use to make cuts go sideways.

I guess that FOOLPROOF is the word I'm looking for.
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https://www.walmart.com/ip/Stihl-2-I...0aAoXvEALw_wcB

sorry for the Walmart link but any Stihl dealer sells them. Just bought a 3/8” last week for my 391.
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Manual simple to use. If the guys are really beating the shit out of the chain til it won’t cut anymore, it’s not the optimal tool. But if they have half a brain and either stop and touch up the chain or switch it out and clean up later it really works well.
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Give them an axe!

After a week of swinging that, they will take better care of your saws!
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Great price on the Walmart one. Aside from the color I’d bet it’s exactly the same as the ones I’ve paid $37.50 for at the Stihl dealer.



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When a person doesn't have it they just don't have it. When that is the case there is no simple tool for quickly sharpening chains. And there is no such thing as quickly sharpening a chain that has been cutting dirt.
Your Fool Proof option is to have a half dozen fresh chains ready to go....time is money.

Then buy yourself one of these......
https://lumber.org/the-5-best-ranked...aw-sharpeners/

They are priced all over the place $50 and up, but a $100 should buy you one plenty good enough for your needs. The tool will pay for itself.
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Originally Posted by ttwo View Post
Stihl 2in1 filing guide. Available in 1/4P, 3/8P, .325 & 3/8 size. Works great in field with stumpvise or at home with bench vise. About $38.00 each.
this is what I train new employees with. Electrics take too much, hand filing for a “maintenance sharpening “ always makes chains last longer.
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What about this?

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That Stihl sharpener is the way to go. I use it regularly on my chains. Simple, easy, and effective.
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Originally Posted by StihlTree View Post
this is what I train new employees with. Electrics take too much, hand filing for a “maintenance sharpening “ always makes chains last longer.
Yeah but that's for "maintenance sharpening". Digging ditches with a chain saw requires way more then "maintenance sharpening" because the leading edge of the cutter tooth/ teeth is so rounded over that they won't dig in and cut.
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Originally Posted by HeadHunt View Post
I use the shit out of one of these exclusively.
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Originally Posted by Sharpest View Post
I use the shit out of one of these exclusively.
I have a friend that told me how good the Dremel with a diamond bit worked so well for sharpening a chain so I bought some bits.
I never had very good luck with them

when I sharpened some chains for him on a bigger electric, he was amazed how well the chains performed, just like new.
hitting the exact same proper angle and depth makes a big difference on the chains

I abused chains cleaning off fence lines , which I hit metal Tee posts , wire, and rock from time to time, not to mention sand /dirt

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The Dremel tool works great, as long as you're quick and don't overheat the teeth.
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If you are cutting a lot in nasty wood, an Oregon 511 grinder can't be beat. Get a whole bunch of chains and sharpen them in batches. When they come off the saw soak them in water heavily mixed with dawn. Before sharpening, pull them out and dip in kerosene (displaces the water/prevents rust, but doesn't make them oily which jacks up grinding stones), and let them air dry before grinding. After grinding, toss them in a bucket of oil to give the pins a good soak.

Best to keep some dedicated bars and chains for nasty work, and good chains/bar that only see clean wood and a hand file for really making time if you aren't down in the dirt.
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https://www.pferd.com/us-en/products...nd-flat-files/

These are the same as the Stihl version, but have more options as far as file sizes go. for 3/8 chain, these use a 7/32 file instead of 13/64. not much difference, just depends on what your chain calls for. They work well, and are fast. Doesn't require removing the chain from bar either, so excellent for field sharpening.

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