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Old 10-04-2020, 05:06 PM
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my dad had warm water this am and thought he needed to replace the water heater. He had it done and he still only has warm water. He made sure it was filled with water prior to plugging it in.I am guessing the 220 is not getting to it and maybe the old one was fine. The thermostats are set 140 so, if any of you can steer me in the right direction.
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Reset button on heater?

Are you able to measure 220 from breaker?

If new, should not be thermostat/s.
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ALL the faucets have warm water? If only one it is a valve issue. 220 volt is 2 wire..it's either 220 or nothing.
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all faucets are the same temp...warm.
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theguy that installed it will be back there in 30 minutes. I asked him to check power at the breakers, thermostats, and the plug on the wall.
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So, is the water warmer than the cold water? If, so, it may be a bad breaker, the plumbers change them out, but may not have a meter to check the voltage, that would be my best guess, also I assume the water was checked at more than one outlet. Most will still work with low voltage thru the breaker.
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I too think breaker issues but have no idea. Yes the water is warmer than cold side..
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I had one recently where they installed a new shower faucet, but did not yet insert the mixing valve. They were getting warm water at other faucets because that shower faucet was allowing cold water to mix with hot water.

Also, 140 seems very hot. And can you check water temp right from the water heater? Possibly from the bottom draining valve?

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Run a little hot water and then feel the hot water pipe at the heater. If it’s hot and the water is still warm at the faucets you probably have a bad cartridge in a faucet or shower valve (single handle valves only). When they go bad they can mix the hot and cold throughout the entire house. If there are single handle valves at the kitchen and vanities....turn the stops off to them one faucet at a time until you determine which one. Shower valves seldom have shut off valves that allow them to be isolated. Check the WH first.
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thanks for the suggestions, I will report back any fix that happens and how.
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Draw a bit of water from the T&P valve at the top. That’s as hot as the water will be.

Did installer connect the wires properly? (240V)?

Cross connection of hot/cold somewhere? Shut hot off and see if water comes out of cold valves. It shouldn’t.
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power seems to be good at all points of the breakers, plug and thermostats..still only warm....could the water heater be a dud? maybe they plugged it in before it was really full? Either way, I think it's going back to the depot tomorrow for a new one. Thanks for the input, I hope for a resolution tomorrow or my Dad may go bat shi-t. He is 89...and not very patient at this point.
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Is it warm right out of the water heater? I have only installed a handful in my life, but none were defective. Still, yours could be...
I always fill heater with output disconnected until full.
I can understand about your 89 yo father and patience.
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with the old and new doing the same thing, it is not likely the heater is the problem.

but if the cold water pipe inside does not go to the bottom and the hot from the top you do not get hot water out.
the cold will mix with the hot.
taking amp reading at the 2 elements as it heats might give you some incite as to how well the water heater is working.
usually only one element is energized at a time
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turns out to be a leaky hot water pipe...........to be determined where. I am guessing it is under the ground since there is no wet anything walls, ceiling or floors in the house. My dad said there was a leaky pipe ten years ago in an atrium area. Thankfully, there is a paver flooring below a screened roof and it is dirt under the pavers. the piping can be reached once dug deep enough. the atrium is between a bathroom and the kitchen. The guy could hear water running when listening to the water heater, and went and saw the meter was turning with no one using water.
Thanks for the input guys!
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must be a very large leak if the heater cannot keep up
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Originally Posted by billinstuart View Post
ALL the faucets have warm water? If only one it is a valve issue. 220 volt is 2 wire..it's either 220 or nothing.
Not necessarily true. I just left a house where a dryer was giving the owner fits. It runs, doesn’t get hot.

breaker was going bad. It might have 240 on it with no load on it, it might have 60-90!on it when the dryer is running.

Similarly, the OP may want to check and see what the voltage is when the heater is supposed to be on. Loose connections, bad breakers, other problems with the electric utility may be the culprit. Or it’s not electrical at all, but that’s out of my comfort zone.
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Originally Posted by AsurfAholic View Post
Not necessarily true. I just left a house where a dryer was giving the owner fits. It runs, doesn’t get hot.

breaker was going bad. It might have 240 on it with no load on it, it might have 60-90!on it when the dryer is running.

Similarly, the OP may want to check and see what the voltage is when the heater is supposed to be on. Loose connections, bad breakers, other problems with the electric utility may be the culprit. Or it’s not electrical at all, but that’s out of my comfort zone.
so, apparently you did not read the OPs last post on a hot water leak
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nope, guilty of reading a few posts and responding to something that stood out to me.
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he will find out how big it is when the guy finds it and he receives his monthly WATER BILL. The issue started Friday with the old water heater, so he guessed. Turns out it was not what he guessed and after the plumber changed all the components on the new one, found the real issue. The Leak.

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