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kickingbass 09-29-2020 03:06 AM

1983 Silverton 34 Value?
 
I am buying a 1983 Silverton 34 with 270 crusaders that were rebuilt in 2015. What is it worth?

hevysrf 09-29-2020 04:59 AM

Plywood topsides?
Original tank?
On the the hard for 4 years?
Used often,in water ready for seatrial?
Many varibles, a structurally sound boat that can run @cruising speed for 30 minutes, $7.5k, but the seller probably spent $40k to get it there.

dev 09-29-2020 05:20 AM

$10K, give or take.

hottoddie 09-29-2020 05:47 AM

Zero to 15k depending on condition. Even with new motors the boat "could" be worth nothing. Old boats are a labor of love.

Lprizman 09-29-2020 05:58 AM


Originally Posted by kickingbass (Post 14091943)
I am buying a 1983 Silverton 34 with 270 crusaders that were rebuilt in 2015. What is it worth?

Really??!!
With just this amount of information and no pics?!?!

jcassara 09-29-2020 06:00 AM

While I agree with all the above I find it amazing that these old boats hold so little value. New boats are 10's to 100's of thousand dollars and comparatively newer used boats are near the same price. A new 30 footer can cost up to a million dollars but an old usable boat is only worth a fraction of a percentage. Lots of repair and upgrade can be done for far less than 100k ......????? These boats should hold real value.

My boat is a well maintained 1989 Wellcraft 33 footer and I did not spend a lot of money to purchase. My maintenance and up keep is comparable to a buddy with a brand new high end 41 footer and I have a lot of money not spent in comparison. He is capable of 3 times my speed!

marlinmike 09-29-2020 06:19 AM

This is COVID pricing which is WAY higher then normal, I've had a number of friends dump old boats they had bought years earlier for double what they paid. As others have said this could be a great boat to a total nightmare so pricing is difficult, I will say old flybridge boats had very little value before the pandemic. Given the time of year I recommend waiting until next year when some of these guys thought their 1980's Skippy Craft was now worth $30k when last year it was worth $1000.....

YeOldeStonecat 09-29-2020 06:21 AM

Depends on "a lot of things".
Condition.
Upgrades
Maintenance
etc etc etc.

One thing you can do is check out boats.com or yachtworld...or some of the larger yacht brokers in your area...and do a search for Silverton 34Cs and take a look at the ranges of prices.
This will give you some sort of "average price for XXX condition and options".

We're looking at the convertibles and sedan cruise Silverton models in the later 90's...such as the 362...and they seem to average 45-55k for that vintage.
Some dock friends of ours just sold their 24' and got a mid 80's Silverton...I think 36C. Believe they paid around 25. Needs cleanup work..but prior owner just dropped in a pair of new Cru 454's and trannies.

kevinv123 09-29-2020 07:24 AM

I paid 30 for an 89 34c with 700 hours earlier this year. very clean, everything but a generator. Twin freshwater 454's, full helm upper isinglass and lower screened enclosures(both new). Could be worth everything from 5k to 40k, need more info.

SHAMROCK69 09-29-2020 07:26 AM

Value could actually be negative as the cost to dispose of a34 foot boat can easily hit 10k. it is a 37 year old entry level boat with old small gas engines. Rebuild is a term to watch out for. What was done?

negative 10k to 10k would be my guess but why would u buy this when there are deals to be had on old quality sport fishing boats available?

kickingbass 09-29-2020 09:39 AM

34 Silvetron
 

Originally Posted by hevysrf (Post 14092017)
Plywood topsides? I think the decks are original
Original tank? I believe original but new fuel lines when engines were replaced in 2015.
On the the hard for 4 years? It has been used regularly about 100-150 hours a year
Used often,in water ready for seatrial? In water ready for survey and sea trial. I was told the uncle was original owner and 12 years ago the nephew bought it and uses it frequently.
Many varibles, a structurally sound boat that can run @cruising speed for 30 minutes, $7.5k, but the seller probably spent $40k to get it there.

My judgement and research says to pay $18,000 but owner wont budge from $22,000. I will have survey done to check out all but just wanted to know if I was paying way too much for it before I invest in a complete survey of the boat by a professional.

kevinv123 09-29-2020 09:52 AM

Get the survey and beat them up with it for repairs to make it as perfect as possible.

hevysrf 09-29-2020 09:59 AM


Originally Posted by kickingbass (Post 14092923)
My judgement and research says to pay $18,000 but owner wont budge from $22,000. I will have survey done to check out all but just wanted to know if I was paying way too much for it before I invest in a complete survey of the boat by a professional.


Seatrial, Seatrial, Seatrial, run engines at cruise at least 10 miles, touch wot to see if its propped correctly.
Moisture numbers for stringers, cabin sides, top, and deck. Check for leaking windows and mold in cabin.
A co-worker had one of these 20 years ago, motors had to run hard to stay on plane, high fuel comsuption and limited tankage.
Budget $5k per year before you leave dock once.

ReelNauti 09-29-2020 10:00 AM

It will be a dog with small blocks.
That boat really needs 454's at a minimum.

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 02:10 PM

I owned a 1984, seems to be a lot of people here not familiar why these boats... mine would plane off just over 3000 RPM. Not fuel efficient at all but would get on plane very very quick. Top end was 30 mph. Mine had original 270s with around 800 hours. Old fuel was an issue but fixed that before we started using it. Asking prices I have seen anything from $1000 to 30,000+. Realistic would be $20,000 for a clean one (I sold mine just under that years ago in a much worse boat market to the first looker within a couple weeks of listing). Of course check the stringers, decks, hatches etc for core damage. Good news is the stringer wood is only there as a form, the fiberglass creates the strength. Thereís an engineers document about this floating around the Internet.

There are tons of them out there, so unless itís the one I would stick to your price and keep looking.

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 02:11 PM


Originally Posted by ReelNauti (Post 14092986)
It will be a dog with small blocks.
That boat really needs 454's at a minimum.

They only came with small blocks and they ran perfectly normal with them. 18 knot cruise before the 4 barrels open was the norm for a sedan in the 80s.

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 02:13 PM


Originally Posted by SHAMROCK69 (Post 14092414)
Value could actually be negative as the cost to dispose of a34 foot boat can easily hit 10k. it is a 37 year old entry level boat with old small gas engines. Rebuild is a term to watch out for. What was done?

negative 10k to 10k would be my guess but why would u buy this when there are deals to be had on old quality sport fishing boats available?

What other sport fishing boats do you recommend? There are a lot of 34Cs out there. They can be had for cheap enough money and if he isnít offshore fishing, whatís the need to own a big name sportfish to sit at the dock or harbor cruise?

pncmatias 09-29-2020 02:24 PM

You can buy 5 year newer of the same model for less than that. The 83 is the older interior treatment and not anywhere near as desirable.

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 03:09 PM


Originally Posted by pncmatias (Post 14093901)
You can buy 5 year newer of the same model for less than that. The 83 is the older interior treatment and not anywhere near as desirable.

The 1983/84 got a teak interior. 1985-88 got the oak interior. I much preferred the teak verse the oak, but to each their own. The 83/84 had a regular Vberth with no stall shower, 1985-88 got the stall shower with an offset vberth.

Resko 1 09-29-2020 03:27 PM


Originally Posted by kevinv123 (Post 14092965)
Get the survey and beat them up with it for repairs to make it as perfect as possible.

Also, remind seller how much its going to cost them to winterize, storage, and get ready for spring launch. The 4 grand may not be worth it for the hassle The rear cabin door and bulkheads are famous for rot. Find a surveyor familiar with the older Silvertons. .

mymojo 09-29-2020 03:33 PM


Originally Posted by kickingbass (Post 14092923)
My judgement and research says to pay $18,000 but owner wont budge from $22,000. I will have survey done to check out all but just wanted to know if I was paying way too much for it before I invest in a complete survey of the boat by a professional.

Hard to image that sized boat with twin 270 small blocks. What is the owner telling you about cruise and fuel burn with those motors. I would think they are working awfully hard to move that boat making for very poor fuel burn if that is a consideration.

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 04:09 PM


Originally Posted by mymojo (Post 14094126)
Hard to image that sized boat with twin 270 small blocks. What is the owner telling you about cruise and fuel burn with those motors. I would think they are working awfully hard to move that boat making for very poor fuel burn if that is a consideration.

Itís been a long time since I had mine but it had Floscans and would run around 18 knots in the 3200 range. From memory it was .75 mpg. What I noticed was bumping it up to 3600-3800 the fuel usage didnít change much, used more fuel but went faster. The Luhrs 34 from the late 80s was the same basic hull with 454s and the fuel usage and speeds were more or less the same.

mymojo 09-29-2020 04:37 PM

^Well, that's not as bad as I figured. SInce I cruise at 17-18 knots too I can't fault the speed!

IMPLiberty 09-29-2020 05:02 PM


Originally Posted by mymojo (Post 14094315)
^Well, that's not as bad as I figured. SInce I cruise at 17-18 knots too I can't fault the speed!

These boats are light and have a shallow dead rise. They arenít battle wagons, and I was leary in twin small blocks (I had a 29í express with twin 270s before it and couldnít imagine them being enough for a 34í fly bridge) but they did fine in the boat. I looked at one that was repowered with twin 454s, however the seller had zero info on performance, whether transmissions or shafts were replaced etc.

REZ 09-29-2020 06:34 PM

my opinion Is that $22k is way overpriced unless it’s in perfect condition.

LongIslandFisherman 09-30-2020 08:41 AM

$11,278.43
Plus tax


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