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Old 09-18-2020, 11:53 AM
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Default When did every brake job start requiring resurfacing the rotors?

My local dealer tries to get me to redo my brakes every time I go there. Wife’s Toyota Highlander.

im down to 4mm in the back so I am getting close. But they are telling me that rotors need to be resurfaced. $600

I used to change my pads all the time Before I got lazy and the rotors ALWAYS looked fine and drove fine after I did the pad swap.

am I being frugal or cheap?
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I would never do a half-assed brake job.
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I always just buy new rotors anymore. The effort of taking them to get turned isn't worth the savings.
But, yes, more times than not I replace them.
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Originally Posted by Bassmantweed View Post
My local dealer tries to get me to redo my brakes every time I go there. Wife’s Toyota Highlander.

im down to 4mm in the back so I am getting close. But they are telling me that rotors need to be resurfaced. $600

I used to change my pads all the time Brice I got lazy and the rotors ALWAYS looked fine and drove fine after I did the pad swap.am I being frugal or cheap?
Yes but $600 is beyond outrageous, I think my local Oreilleys charges $25 per rotor turn them and is an hour or less to jack the car and have both rotors off.

You're missing out on some % of potential brake performance by not turning them. And quit going to the dealer...for anything.
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I worked as a service advisor while I was in college at a big name chain repair shop, basically they want to resurface the rotors to extend the life of the break pads. "Pad slapping" brake jobs cause premature wear of the pads, which usually leads to angry customers. Especially when you tell them there brake job isnt under warranty because the rotor wasnt replaced/resurfaced.

So they are actually trying to do the job the right way. However, $600 seems a little steep, unless they are doing all four rotors and pads, labor, new hardware, etc.
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I buy new rotors each time I change pads (roughly 40-45k miles). New rotors are $60/wheel. I found that my rotors warped quickly when turned. Not worth it to me. $600 to resurface rotors? Go find another dealer.
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Rotors have a minimum thickness to still be considered safe. Difficult to know without a micrometer. Even if it is a solid rotor, it needs to dissipate heat. If you saw a rotor being resurfaced, many times it's clear the surface has worn unevenly.
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1. Stop going to stealership for basic repairs
2. Rotors cost about $45 each, why would you spend more money to use the old ones when replacing is cheaper?
3. Find a good local mechanic, who would have told you to replace rotors.
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C’mon Lance! He threw you a softball.
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I grew up behind the counter of a couple of parts stores, and have turned more rotors/drums than I can count. I don't even bother anymore....just replace with new. Set of good rotors and pads is under $200 an axle for most applications. About 20-30 min a side to swap them out. Essentially save $50-75 to turn them vs replacing. My time is worth more than that.
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Originally Posted by Bassmantweed View Post
My local dealer tries to get me to redo my brakes every time I go there. Wife’s Toyota Highlander.

im down to 4mm in the back so I am getting close. But they are telling me that rotors need to be resurfaced. $600

I used to change my pads all the time Before I got lazy and the rotors ALWAYS looked fine and drove fine after I did the pad swap.

am I being frugal or cheap?
neither!

your being dumb for 2 reasons, first your doing a half assed brake job, not only do you need rotor thickness, it also needs to be even. second, your going to the dealer and paying way to much money to have this stuff done!
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Default easy on the brake rotors

applying brakes full on will heat and warp rotors, also when raining out easy on the brakes, If the rotors are hot when braking they will warp when the water sprays on them. I get close to 100,000 miles on rotors
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Originally Posted by Bassmantweed View Post
My local dealer tries to get me to redo my brakes every time I go there. Wife’s Toyota Highlander.

im down to 4mm in the back so I am getting close. But they are telling me that rotors need to be resurfaced. $600

I used to change my pads all the time Before I got lazy and the rotors ALWAYS looked fine and drove fine after I did the pad swap.

am I being frugal or cheap?
The metal they use for rotors these days is so cheap it's no longer worth trying to give them a second life.

Use a local shop and just get new one's.
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I didn't think anyone turned rotors anymore. But also, I'm confused (because it seems excessively high) - $600 just to turn them? Or $600 for a brake job that includes turning the rotors (and new pads/hardware)? Both seem pretty high, especially for a Toyota. Rock Auto has a bunch of offerings and it looks like they average about $50 per rotor.
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I just had the oil changed on my 2017 Titan and asked my dealer if my brakes were good because I'll be trailering my boat on vacation soon. I expected them to say new pads and turn the rotors, I have 49k miles and haven't touched the brakes but had the brake fluid changed out about 10k miles ago per the maintenance book. Service adviser said "nope, you are good"! I was shocked!
How long do they last?
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Originally Posted by vulcan View Post
I just had the oil changed on my 2017 Titan and asked my dealer if my brakes were good because I'll be trailering my boat on vacation soon. I expected them to say new pads and turn the rotors, I have 49k miles and haven't touched the brakes but had the brake fluid changed out about 10k miles ago per the maintenance book. Service adviser said "nope, you are good"! I was shocked!
How long do they last?
got 105k out of the rears on my dodge, and 150k out of the fronts.
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Rotors are cheap. Takes an hour to do one end of the car. Even less with another set of hands.
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1)Whether you turn them or not depends on the rotors and the pads. Some cars, like the old BMWs had really soft pads and really soft rotors (remember all the filthy BMW wheels in the 80's and 90s). In the case of the real soft rotors you don't resurface them and just let the pads conform to the rotor's irregularities. Those are only turned if they get out of true. 2) $600 is absolutely outrageous. My mechanic did my granddaughter's Toyota FJ recently 4 rotors, pads and two calipers $678. $600 is a screw job and you need to quit using them you can buy top tier better than OEM replacement rotors and pads for less than $600.
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I buy new rotors each time I change pads (roughly 40-45k miles). New rotors are $60/wheel. I found that my rotors warped quickly when turned. Not worth it to me. $600 to resurface rotors? Go find another dealer.
yep, me too
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I'm really lazy. I won't take the time to drive to a repair shop and wait on my vehicle to be fixed. Because I can change all the pads on my car in less time than it takes to get to the shop.

I never resurface rotors, and don't care how fast the pads wear out. I get them at autozone and they're guaranteed for life.

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